Did 247 make a mistake in their latest ratings? Drew Barker is now unranked as a QB. Wasn't he top 5 in the past? http://247sports.com/Player/Drew-Barker-13971
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I heard Gerry Hamilton say on the Bill King show yesterday that they moved him into their top 100 this week so it must of been a mistake.
You guys are confusing two different rankings. His overall ranking (that is, how he ranks among all 2014 prospects is 94). His position ranking (how he rank among other pro-style QB's) is 6.
If you would of looked at the rankings two days ago when the thread was started it would of said "unranked" We are not confusing anything.
My bad.
I'm still waiting for this kid to get an offer...
He just tweeted that he wants to make a decision around April. That can't be good for us if he is already planning on making a decision but doesn't even have an offer
Muck Fichigan
You're thinking about this all wrong. I remember before Barker wanted to decide in this fall. Then he pushed it back to February. Now after a talk with the coaches he's pushed it back even more.
Shows how much he wants to be a Buckeye. If he wanted to go to USC he would have already committed.
I agree with you... I believe Barker wants to be a Buckeye. If he doesn't get the OSU offer he is going to commit somewhere else eventually. I think Barker is probably OSU's #2 option, but they have to be very picky with the 2014 class.
Also saw a report that Urban visited Drew today. April is a long way off, and I think Barker will have his offer by then. If not, Watson better already be committed
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
I hope you are right... I don't feel like Watson is going to flip, but you never know with Urban. I think Watson sees that he can probably go in and take over for Tajh Boyd. I'd love to have Drew Barker. I like his style of play and leadership skills.
From what I've heard and read it's:
1. Clemson
1a. Ohio State
2. Everybody else
Watson absolutely LOVES Meyer and his system. He's loved him for a long time and he knows his reputation of developing QBs for the NFL (say what you want about Tebow, he's a player in the League and has had some success).
I think we have a very good shot to flip him. The kicker is, we'll have to wait a while. Watson wants to come for FNL but that's all the way in the summer and I can't see Barker waiting that long. I do think Barker is our second choice (rare combination of athleticism, passing ability and leadership, Tebow 2.0 anyone??)
However, Watson is a kid that you probably HAVE to wait for. He certainly won't be the best runner Urban's had, but he will be the best passer and can run very well to complement his passing abilities.
Another poiint is that, should Cardale stay (I know there are rumors about him going to a MAC school or an FCS school), we'll have Braxton for 2 more years, Jones for 4 more and Barrett for 5 more (will red shirt next year). So even though Urban like to take one each class, QB isn't a huge necessitiy next year and if we put all our eggs in Watson's baskey and strike out, it won't kill the position. Plus I think we'd be able to flip a guy like Kizer should it be absolutely necessary.
Would love to have Barker in this class, regardless though.
I like Watson as well, but if he LOVES Urban so much why did he commit to Clemson?
Tebow= 2 national titles, heisman, and a Sugar Bowl win. I'll take that all day in a 4 year stretch.
Tebow never was a part of a Super Bowl nor has he been in that game either.
Barker doesn't come and Watson flips...if that doesn't happen Barker, Kizer or Will Ulmer as back up plans. They'll get offers when Watson's out of the picture. Story over....
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
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I'm not worried about winning Super Bowls when we are talking about college football. Your argument doesn't make sense. Tebow was a phenomenal college football player. He was a part of 2 national title teams, won a heisman, and won a Sugar Bowl game. He was 3 out of 4 in bowl/title games. Someone compared Barker to Tebow and if that were the case, I'd sign Barker up NOW!
Barker is a guy who after camps this summer will have many offers from major schools. If Ohio State wants him as a "backup plan" they better be ready to get burnt. They can't screw around with this kid too much while they are waiting on a guy committed somewhere else to flip. Barker is not a Timmons who not many schools really know about. Barker is going to be saught after. It's fine if he's a guy Ohio State doesn't want, but he won't be strung along until national signing day. If they want him, they'll after offer at some point, probably in the spring or summer.
The Watson recruitment will last for a very long time. If we wait until that one is done there is absolutely 0 chance any of the 3 mentioned will still be on the board
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Oops misread...Sugar Bowl for super bowl...my bad. That's what too many Yuenglings will do to you. Makes the vision a bit off...sorry again. However...sober now...and Tebow may not even be on an NFL team next year unless Jacksonville wants a nice distraction....bank that!
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
I'd take Tebow as a college QB everyday. Not all great college players pan out in the pros, but as long as they win in college that is all that matters.
Agree, NFL football is a different animal. Base opinions about a college player on his college career.
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Isn't recruiting currently in a dead period. How would he be able to visit him today? I know recruits can call coaches but I thought that was the only contact.
I could see Butch Jones making this kid his #1 priority to try and make a big splash and turn Tennessee around.
You are absolutely right. Players can call coaches once a week and can officially visit the school. That is essentially the only contact allowed.
The above information about Barker is from the Boarding House on Bucknuts and it basically says that Barker talked to Meyer today and there was no offer extended. Barker lists USC and OSU as his favorites, Barker continues to get good feedback from Herman but again, no offer yet.
downvote?
vacuuming sucks
If you post something, you will get downvoted... fact of life here... someone will downvote you if their computer freezes.
Upvote to all three of you. IT'S A FESTIVUS MIRACLE!!!
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Living in the same small town of Gainesville as Deshaun, we have A LOT of the same friends. Therefore, we have had small chat before. The kid really is ALL Clemson. He is a celeb in Gainesville. With that said, he is probably one of the most humble kids you could meet. Pretty much and all around great person. I would love to see him in Scarlet and Grey, but Urban is REALLY going to have to work his magic. I have asked him if he is going to remain commited to Clemson, and his answer is always "We will see on National Signing Day!" Always with a big smile. So you really never know. He would be a stud at tOSU in our offense.
The way you describe the situation makes it seem like he is anything but "all Clemson"
He tells the people closest to him that he is all Clemson. But he tells people like me "We will see on NSD" probably just so I shut up lol.
If he was all Clemson, he wouldn't be talking about other visits and constantly talking to other coaches. With the potential offensive coaching instability at Clemson, I say Urban waits until after NSD, makes a power play to Watson and says "you see what I can do with your type of QB. I'm giving you first shot to get that spot in this class, but offers go out to the rest of the QBs next week". Gives Watson a week to decide what his heart is telling him, and doesn't cause us to lose out on backup plans.
This isn't, of course, to say that I know more about recruiting than Urban. But he has his ways of getting commitments.
He has been on twitter retweeting alot of pro-OSU material, about Deshaun and Demarre coming to OSU and Urban flipping him. I agree this one is far from over. Especially when Clemson's OC takes a head coaching job next year.
My point I've argued about the Barker/Watson situation is this... Offer Barker and I'm pretty sure he will commit. If Watson decided to flip thn we would have 2 stud QB's and they could battle it out for the job down the road. We can't afford to miss on a good QB in any year. A QB is like a pitcher on a baseball team, success runs through the QB!
I think the staff only wants one QB this class especially given the fact that it will be a 20ish man class.
Also, I feel like one QB committing whether it be Barker, Watson, Ulmer or Henderson (think he's out of the picture but you get my point) would push the other QBs away because 1) we only want one and 2) top quarterbacks normally want to be the sole QB in the class.
Yup Urban took Cam and Brantley in the same class despite having a Soph Tebow.
Drew Barker is the new Ryan Timmons.
Except you didn't need Waycracken to get the bandwagon rolling on Barker.
Point taken, though: I don't think anyone would be mad at Barker getting an offer.
Valid point to some degree. Some kids do not know or have the resources to invest in a marketing plan for their future. Some kids starve for attention and some are so quiet and non aggressive because it is not in their nature. One kid might have an incredible 6k tweets and one have 80.
Do not tie my enthusiasm for a recruit to become a Buckeye and hold it against a kid who seeks no press for himself. He is polite enough if someone asks for an interview.
I actually meant it with some respect and only the slight hint of kidding. Timmons wouldn't have the following he does on here without your endorsement, sir. Thanks for being passionate!
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Distance may play a factor in Watson's recruitment I believe Clemson is only 2-3 hours away so its not to bad for his family. I have read from people down there though that everyone knows Urbans system is best for him and he has acknowledged that. However, like I said distance may be the biggest factor here in the end but I do feel confident in saying that Watson is at the top of our board with McMillan and Hand in any order really.
Not to sound like a Debbie Downer, but I'm predicting that OSU misses out on both Watson and Barker. They'll end up with that Ulmer kid, who I don't want at all.
What's going to happen is that they'll wait till the very end to get Watson and he'll end up staying with Clemson. And by then, Barker will have committed elsewhere.
I agree 1000%.
The way you sound Weimerad, its like Urban doesn't have a clue with what he is doing in recruiting. What makes you think Urban will let something like that happen?
Besides, JT Barrett fits the system just as well as Barker and/or Watson. He is already on board. If by chance Urban doesn't get his man in 2014, then not like this team will be without a QB that is capable.
but I think you all are crazy and I think Urban gets at least one of the QBs he wants! Not like only one will be good. They all will work in the system just fine. This is different than down in Florida. Urban won't let a mistake happen here!
I'm not saying at all that he doesn't have a clue. What I'm saying is that it seems like he's taking a huge risk waiting on Watson and not at least offering another QB, such as Barker. You would also have to think he knows about some of the 2014 recruits, McMillan, Booker, Garrett and Barker all talking about playing together. All i'm saying is if he doesn't offer Barker soon, it's going to be too late.
I can see both you and Squirrel's arguments. One thing that's started to occur to me lately though, is that perhaps Urb doesn't even want Barker? Or any other QB in this class aside from perhaps Watson or Heard (committed to Texas but also got an OSU offer). And maybe that is because of Barrett. He may feel like Barrett is recovering fine, and if he's going to use a scholarship spot in the 2014 class it's going to be one of his top 2 or 3 guys or no one at all.
That's the possibility that keeps crossing my mind. Perhaps Urb isn't as fond of Barker as the rest of us are? So to him if Barker goes elsewhere it's not a huge loss. Not saying it's the reality, just that it's a possibility that's crossed my mind lately.
They've visited Barker a few times in the past 3 weeks. I don't think you devote time to a QB that you have no interest in. I don't want to miss on a QB at all, but waiting on Watson until NSD is a mistake in my mind. But hey... It's Urban Meyer... He's one of the best closers in recruiting.
Barker has plenty of time to wow the coaches, but I'd like to know if he'll keep pushing his decision back or not. I think when he camps this summer and does 7 on 7's and all that he's going to blow up. Will we still be in on him at that point? Will he have decided South Carolina is the place to be by then? Who knows.
From what he's saying, it doesn't sound like he wants to wait until summer to make a decision. He said he wants to decide on his birthday, which is in March, or in April.
I'm not saying the time isn't now but we are talking about 2014 recruits. 2013 hasn't even reached NSD yet. I don't think Urban is playing with fire for not offering a 2014 recruit just yet. I think the "it's going to be too late" line needs to hold off for a few months.
I agree. I was responding to BTALBERT's comment above regarding Barker pushing back his decision till summer. I'm not in freak out mode just yet. It's early. We are all just gonna have to wait and see how things play out.
Whatever happened with the Crest kid? Wernt we scoping that kid out as well?
I want to offer Barker so he could commit early and be a leader of the class. Clifton Garrett Dante Booker and Raekwon McMillan have all talked about playing together WITH Drew being their quarterback. If Urban could get Deshaun Watson and still get those 3 linebackers I think that would be the best scenario
Muck Fichigan
i too really like barker and am shocked we havent offered considering hes done all the coaches asked of him. i would take him now no ? but alls not lost bc theres a great prospect in deshone kizer thats a very good prospectl. He just won the Div2 state championship game with jayme thompson at central catholic in toledo. Id go with barker and kizer as the guys id like most if watson doesnt workout but missing out on a guy like barker bc we didnt offer would be a shame.
The fact of the matter is if we wait for Watson until NSD 2014 we could probably miss on all of the elite QB's. Ulmer's throwing mechanics are awful. We need to offer Barker and be set on the 2014 QB.
As I've said on numerous statements you've made, we aren't coaches. I'll trust the staff and their expertise. We are fans and only see half the battle (and that half is incredibly obfuscated). They know what they're doing.
Thank god. I agree completely people are freaking out, but the staff knows what they are doing so IUIT.
I don't think anyone is freaking out. My point is, if he is a backup plan, we won't have the opportunity to get him on board. Barker is going to be a top priority for a lot of really good teams and won't need to wait on a comittable offer to go to a big name school.
The staff knows what they are doing, but if they are going aggressively after Watson, and telling other guys to hold off and they'll get an offer, they'll lose any chance at getting Barker.
What I am saying is your last sentence is what I'm talking about. Saying the staff will lose out on barker if they don't offer is something I'm sure they know. Maybe they have been told by barker he wants to go there regardless or maybe they are hearing from Watson that he want to go to osu. I'm just saying that assuming were gonna miss out on both is worrying too much. If the staff were that worried then they would offer so I wouldn't make the assumption that they will lose out on him if they don't offer.
I'm not worried at all, the point is, he's not the caliber of player to have as a "backup plan". Timmons is a backup plan. He's immensely talented but maybe doesn't fit in perfectly for this team. Barker is going to be way too high caliber of a recruit to be strung along until signing day, that's been my only point with all my comments. He is going to be a highly ranked recruit, and not likely to be a dude who will wait around. If that happens, then whatever QB Ohio State ends up with will be adequate for what they want. As I've said the staff may believe Watson is a guy you have to go after no matter what and if they don't get him a project type of recruit is what they want. Who knows. I just don't see Barker being a "plan B" guy the way a recruit like Timmons has been.
Lets face it no 4* has to wait. But some will. I would guess Timmons fate will be known by mid January. If Barker feels the need to sign early my guess it will be with someone else. I also believe however that if he does sign early somewhere else he will still visit other schools. He does seem like the type of kid that likes attention.
Does anyone else think there might be a possibility that Urb hasn't offered Barker yet because he could be trying to send Watson the signal that he's willing to wait as long as it takes to get him?
I have no source or anything whatsoever on that, the thought just reminds me of another rumor I heard (don't know that there's any truth to it), that Urb told Zeke Elliott that he wouldn't be recruiting any other RBs for the 2013 class. I could invision something similar where Urb is just trying to send Watson the signal, "We know you're committed to Clemson, but you're the only QB we want, we're willing to wait as long as it takes." I don't know that that kind of stuff ever happens, but it would make sense to me in a way.
I think we all understand that Watson is the QB the staff wants. Our concern as average fans is that we could miss on all of the elite QB's in the class waiting on Watson. I feel that Barker is the best option for us because of the way he plays and his leadership abilities. I feel we need a top notch QB in the 2014 class because who knows what will happen with Jones and Barrett will be playing on a surgically repaired knee. I personally don't see Watson flipping because he can take over for Boyd at Clemson. I was always taught not to put all of my eggs in one basket and that's exactly what the staff is doing with Watson so far.
You don't know that. Crest was the only QB offer for a LONG time. The '14 class is going to be notably small, so they staff will likely pick and choose who they want. It sounds like they'll take one QB, and if they want Watson (and know Barker will commit if offered), then that makes a lot of sense as to why they haven't offered him. If things change with Watson, then expect Barker to get the offer and commit; if things continue to trend upward with OSU and Watson, there's no reason to offer Barker if they'll only take one QB.
I trust they staff, they get paid to do this. It's very early for 2014, so there's no need to get antsy about the situation.
Things just change so quickly is the problem. Barker may not be a priority for them and that's up to the staff to decide. The problem is, if he's number 2 on their list, and they keep putting him off about the offer, they may end up losing out. Interest in the kid is going to blow up after he camps this summer. He may decide to go somewhere that he isn't a backup plan.
At the sametime, Urban may be looking for a backup and not a world beater if he misses out on Watson. Maybe Watson is just a talent you can't pass up, but if you miss him Meyer is perfectly happy with Barret and will take a guy like Crest who would serve as a backup with some talent.
I like Barker's film a lot. I think he has all the tools to be a great QB. Would love to see him in S&G.
All this "trust the staff" talk is lame. It seems like everyone who says it infers the staff can't make mistakes or we can't have opinions. I think we should continue to recruit Watson hard. And give him about 2 more months to make up his mind, then we should move on and offer other quarterbacks if he doesnt commit
I agree. I'm interested in how many of the "Trust the staff" folks were also people screaming WHY CAN'T TRESSEL CLOSE!?!?!?! every time JT whiffed on a recruit.
I believe you can trust the staff, and want them to offer another kid at the same time. I don't think Waycraken is going to quit being an OSU fan if Timmons doesn't get an offer. I'm not going to stop being an OSU fan if Barker doesn't get an offer. I'm sure the staff will do what is best for the program, but I'd like to see Barker in S&G in the future.
I agree completely, I was mostly pointing out the hypocracy of the fan base. Back in Tressel's days Trusting the Staff was not a popular opinion when it came to recruiting. Now, if you question anything Meyer and staff are doing, the response is always I TRUST THE STAFF.
Well, no kidding. Obviously, the staff knows more about the kids they are looking at and trying to land more than any of us commenting on recruits. No matter what level of expert we believe ourselves to be. Saying I trust the staff doesn't mean anything though about the success they'll have, and it also doesn't mean a recruit isn't valuable because the staff hasn't offered yet. I trust the staff, but they are going to fuck up and miss on guys they really wanted, and guys they ignored are going to be really good players.
Sorry, I just think it's hilarious that fans think they know better than the Pantoni & Co. So called "analysts" and writers only see part of it too, albeit a bit more.
You can be a fan yes, but we only see a part of what's going on. Especially with a class still a year out. It seems like everybody is freaking out about him not having an offer; as a fan I won't worry because I know we'll be okay either way.
I am not saying I know more than anyone. I am just a fan voicing his opinion. If we didn't have opinions then site like this wouldn't be in operation. If everyone just said "Pantoni, Meyer, etc. knows more than me so I won't say anything" there would be no need for us to keep updates on every offer that goes out and ones that will never go out. I'm not one of the fans crying bc Barker or Timmons don't have an offer. I believe they don't have offers for good reasons, but I do believe staffs make mistakes in not offering kids.
The reason to trust the staff members is NOT that they're infallible. They're human and all humans make mistakes.
Two big reasons to trust the staff, however, are:
It's fine for fans to voice opinions and speculate about recruiting - hey, all power to you, this is for fun. But I do notice lots of commenters claiming to know things they could not possibly know, unless they had inside information.
Exactly this. We only see part of it, we are fans. If we don't have one of these guys signed a year from today, I'll worry. But today, it's a year away.
This. Great post.
Even those with inside information know significatly less than the staff does.
DeShaun Watson, that's all you need to know.
I trust the staff also, but that doesn't mean I can't have questions. Even Rich Rod and his crew were experts but that didn't stop them from recruiting busts and other no name prospects. I'm here to just voice my opinion just like everyone else here.
Also, I agree on the whole "insider" information people seem to have. They facebook creep and dm people on twitter and consider it insider info...
Becool12: I agree with your key points, but a longer version of what I was getting at above:
You agree that fans' lack of information is the key factor making our recruiting speculations lots of fun, but wildly unreliable. Even if we had access to all of the information, though, we'd still do a very poor job utilizing that data. That's where expertise comes in.
Given Urbz's track record, I'd trust the expertise of his staff over the expertise of Rich Rod's crew. That doesn't mean, however, that Team Urbz will get everything right. They'll overrate certain recruits and underrate others. They'll make tactical mistakes with some kids - e.g. they might believe that they have more leverage/leeway in slow-playing a kid than they really have, and so maybe the kid loses interest in Ohio State. Over the long haul, though, I trust that Team Urbz is going get it right more often than other staffs - in essence, I expect them to have higher recruiting "batting average" compared to other staffs and a way, way higher batting average than I'd have if I were given all the same information and asked to make recruiting evals, manage the process, make strategic decisions, etc.
Heck, if they put you and me in charge of Arizona's recruiting efforts right now, we'd still woefully underperform RR's crew. Sure, we'd every scrap of information at our disposals - not just all the talent-related data, but we'd also know that kid-X's girlfried was going to attend UCLA and that kid-Y's COUGAR mom was getting cozy with Texas A&M's strength coach, etc. But we'd still do a terrible job of utilizing it. Our batting average, so to speak, would lag miserably behind RR's batting average. Sure, we could get a few things right that his staff missed, but we'd get a lot more things wrong.
The point is that we trust that Urbz >> 97 percent of coaching staffs and 99.999 percent of us, not that we expect Urbz to be right all the time or even most the time.
^ Well said
Any possibility we haven't heard much from 2014 QBs because OSU wants to make sure JT Barrett signs on the dotted line?
I thought I read that Barrett was enrolling early to start classes, rehab, and learn the system????? I could be wrong.
I believe you are right. JT starts in January.
This is a web site to converse have candor and disagree. Isnt that more fun than to just answer "I trust the staff"! Of course We all do. Dont come off like youre any better than the rest of us knuckle heads on here.
Agreed!
I said it above and don't get me wrong its fun to speculate how a person would do in a system, but when I have to read half the comments saying, if Urban doesn't offer Barker soon we're gonna end up with some 3rd teir QB. Its fine to speculate who you want and what they would do, but when people say that we will lose out then its just unrealistic. The difference between you with Timmons and some of the posters on here is that while you would like to see an offer, the sky isn't falling if we don't get him.
Hey, 11W staff, we have a down-vote troll.
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So if Meyer gives Barker a scholly, he commits right away and thats a problem cause we are only taking one QB. Meyer really wants Watson. So the more time he can get to work on Watson the better chance he has to change his mind so he stalls by not offering Barker. It's still really early for 2014 and I think Meyer can, and has, stalled Barker enough to see if he can flip Watson. Its a recruiting game.
How long can Barker hold out??? We'll see....
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Guys, we are Ohio State, headed by UFM. We'll get our guy, whomever we want it to be.
ummmm, as long as their names aren't Anzalone, Diggs, Neal, Ferns, Dawson, Kalis, Kozan, Cox, Stringfellow, Hargreaves, Treadwell, Pocic, Johnson, Kugler, Smith Gedeon, Cravens, Thomas.............. just sayin.
You have a point but Cox, Kozan and Neal all would have been Buckeyes if we wanted or had the room for them.
Neal tried to commit...had other issues (cough cough his dad).
Also: not sure how Ferns is a real miss considering he was below "The Big Three" and likely Kyle Berger too.
Diggs, and Neal were the most disappointing misses.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Just sayin': Diggs was a miss, Neal was a pass. Neal, if you remember, went through three high schools in four years and called an assembly at his elementary school to announce his decision.
Then cancelled without telling the kids. Not condemning the kid, but that was indicative of the reasons why we passed.
His father?
Neal has the talent, but the biggest reason I was disappointed in losing him was because he sounded like he wanted to be a Buckeye.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Yea its extreme to say whomever we want, but if we don't get Watson or Barker do you think we end up getting some no name scrub?
If we miss on those two then I believe we are settling for a Plan B QB in the 2014 class. Watson is already committed and Barker has publicly stated he wants to commit early and recruit players to come with him. Urban is the best recruiter in the country but I believe it's a mistake to hold out until NSD to try to flip Watson.
We've disagreed a few times on the issue, but I agree here. Operative word though, is "until" NSD. I very highly doubt Urban will offer no prospects other than 2 commits until then. Looking at this year, there were (some verbal) offers out to Swoopes, Bailey, Barrett, Zaire, and possibly more very early. Urban is just showing focus on the big gun right now. You'll see more go out.
If anyone is bitching about our recruting and the misses, you are the one that has missed quite a bit. Urban's close last year after just being hired was nothing short of sensational. Bottom line is if guys don't want to be at Ohio State, we don't want them here.
Neal was from AZ and Diggs from MD. What should piss you off is when you miss the top guy in state, as we did with Hicks and DePriest.
All you experts should be college coaches or write for Scout, Rivals, or 24/7.
If Barker doesn't have an offer right now, there is a good reason. Bottom line, and I'll say it again, we will get the QB that we want in this class.
I think the last sentence should be we will get A QB we want. I think the staff wants Watson, actually that's very obvious that he is their first choice. I personally don't believe we get him. But I believe Urban will get a quarterback he wants, whether it be Barker, Kizer, Henderson, Allen, Crest, Ulmer, etc. Urban isnt dumb enough to put all of his eggs into one, already committed basket. One of the guys Urban wants will end up in scarlet an grey, just might not be THE guy he wanted
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Triv, agreed. Possibly a matter of semantics. Probaly can't be a THE guy. Can be several guys that fit the bill. You never know anyway with these kids. Let's say if we have a top 3, we will get one of those 3.
I would love to be a fly on the wall when Urban has to talk to a clear second option and maintain interest while still not giving a committable offer quite yet. It must be a serious ego blow to some of these all state all world guys to have to wait for something that usually comes so easy.