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Black Monday in the NFL

So far there are a handful of coaches that have been given the boot. I wonder what affect this is going to have on recruiting over the next month and if the Buckeyes will be able to capitalize on any new hires? Obviously we have all heard the rumors on Saban and Chip Kelly, but i have seen Bill O'Brien's name mentioned and I am sure there are a few names that will be mentioned over the next few weeks. It will be interesting to see how this all transpires and i am sure tOSU staff is putting in extra work and getting in the ear of some of these recruits! I know there was a previous thread on the PSU class and there really aren't many guys that tOSU would take, aside from possbily Brenneman, and even he is a stretch as we are looking good at TE. It should make for an interesting couple of weeks leading to NLOI day!

 

Happy New Year everyone, i hope you all have a safe and prosperous 2013 and as always, GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!   

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johnblairgobucks on 31 Dec 2012 - 2:21pm #

7 coaches gone, 7 spots open.  Bears, Browns, Bills, Cardinals, Chiefs, Chargers and Eagles

Any chances Saban or Chip Kelley finally go NFL?

There are now alot of NFL trained assistants that were on these fired staffs, looking for work.  Any chances Urban brings in new coaches to Columbus?

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Buckeyevstheworld on 31 Dec 2012 - 2:22pm #

I think Lovie being fired was the biggest shock.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

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tennbuckeye19 on 31 Dec 2012 - 2:26pm #

Yeah for sure. Getting fired after having 10 wins is wild, but the Bears did miss the playoffs and Lovie's been there while, so I guess ownership is thinking they need a fresh start. 

 

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William on 1 Jan 2013 - 2:13am #

They've missed the playoffs 5 times out of the past 6 years. Lovie had to go, he'll get picked up somewhere as a DC though. 

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Buckeyevstheworld on 1 Jan 2013 - 2:23am #

It couldn't be helped last year. They lost Cutler and Forte lasy year when the Bears were rolling. This year Cutler missed the 2nd half against the Texans, and the entire game against the 49ers.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

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aboynamedtracy on 1 Jan 2013 - 11:10am #

If the GM had given Lovie the pieces for a functional OL I think the Bears would have been in business... Coaching wasn't the issue. I'd give Lovie another shot at head coach.
And I do think Kelley does the sneaky Pete exit before Oregon gets whacked.

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jestertcf on 1 Jan 2013 - 10:07am #

Bears fans should remember how the chargers fared after they fired Marty Schotenheimer, who also had a double digit win season.

~Because we couldn't go for three~

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kareemabduljacobb on 31 Dec 2012 - 2:31pm #

I hope Jason Carrot gets added to that list.  C'mon Jerry!!!!

 

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johnblairgobucks on 31 Dec 2012 - 2:34pm #

Can't imagine many Cowboy fans want Romo back for another run, either.

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kareemabduljacobb on 31 Dec 2012 - 2:42pm #

Romo phucks up quite a bit, but also does a lot of great things including lots of come back wins.  Cowboys were just unlucky with injuries this year, Murray misses 6 games, Austin injured all year but played through it, Witten ruptured spleen at the beginning of the year, lost a few starters on the OL for the year, CBs, Ware was 50% last night, Both Lee and Carter who are a great tandem at ILB both done for the year, Lee for most of the season, Pro Bowl DT Ratliff out, his replacement kills his buddy driving drunk, lots of scrubs on that D who weren't even on teams all season until the Cowboys lost a bunch of starters and a bunch of their replacements.    But really, there isn't really anyone better the Cowboys could get right now...  I mean he puts up great numbers and I know they can be deceiving but he is #5 All Time in QB Rating, just .1 behind Peyton. 

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tennbuckeye19 on 31 Dec 2012 - 2:51pm #

Putting up big numbers is only part of the equation. The problem is that he self-destructs. For almost every good thing he does, he follows it with some bonheaded play that costs his team. 

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kareemabduljacobb on 31 Dec 2012 - 2:53pm #

True but a lot of the blame gets put on him when it should be else where, like most of the time, the Defense.  But that swing pass to Murray was terrible.  Carrot also calls a terrible game every since he became a HC.  He really couldn't do much that last drive though w/ no Dez or Austin.

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tennbuckeye19 on 31 Dec 2012 - 2:58pm #

Yeah that last drive, he was kinda playing with one arm tied behind his back with his 2 best wide-outs sidelined. I watch a lot of Cowboy games (cause they're always on) and many of the Cowboys problems over the years don't rest on Romo's shoulders alone. 

I would be surprised if Garret is back.

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johnblairgobucks on 31 Dec 2012 - 2:54pm #

kindof of like having a scientist capable of making a nuclear reactor, and continue to bring him on to head the project, even though he "phucks up quite a bit".  Not quite as serious, but as a person with no interest in Cowboy football, it seems to me that they need to try another route.

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luckynutz on 31 Dec 2012 - 3:34pm #

Romos number are deceptive. The first 3 quarters of the game, he is terrible. When the defense is playing heads up. Once the cowboys get down by a few tds, and dez bryant decides he's ready to play, its a different ballgame. He can pad the hell out of his stat line against a prevent in the 4th quarter. Fact of the matter is he is so bad early in the game, it basically puts dallas so far behind he has to throw the ball. Romo sucks when it matters

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kareemabduljacobb on 31 Dec 2012 - 4:32pm #

 

Agree with all of your guys points, I'm a Cowboys fan so I've suffered through all the choking, I still think if they had a healthy team all year they would def be in the playoffs but oh well.  Even if they did win last night, they have so many players playing hurt or on the IR they would pry be 1 and done in the playoffs anyways.   If anything this will give them a better draft pick to either sure up the DL, Saftey position or OL.

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GeneStarwind Mod on 31 Dec 2012 - 6:25pm #

Sounds like Green Bay, but they won a Super Bowl with injuries and they got to the playoffs this year injury plagued

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kareemabduljacobb on 31 Dec 2012 - 9:48pm #

That's true, GB still had enough play makers at every position plus A Rodgers is obviously a lot better than Romo. 

These are the defensive players that were, or have been out for quite some time... not including Ware who was playing w/ a shoulder that keeps separating and other injuries.

Role        Player       POS    Status       Injury
Starter  Jay Ratliff    NT  Out          Groin
Starter  Jason Hatcher  DE  Out    Concussion
Starter  Bruce Carter  ILB  Out for Season  Elbow
Starter  Kenyon Coleman  DE  IR      Triceps
Starter  Sean Lee        ILB  IR         Toe
Starter  Barry Church  S  IR          Achilles
Key Backup  Orlando Scandrick  CB  Likely season-ending  Hand
Backup  Sean Lissemore   ILB  missed 6 games  Ankle
Backup  Orie Lemon     ILB  IR      Hamstring
Backup  Matt Johnson    S  IR (designated for return)  Hamstring
Depth  Caleb McSurdy   ILB  IR       Achilles

 

 

 

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CasualBystander on 31 Dec 2012 - 3:27pm #

Hahaha, it's funny cuz he's a ginger :)

"It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways." - Buddha

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY on 31 Dec 2012 - 3:34pm #

Not seeming to think anyone O'Brien is currently recruiting hard would take the place of the people we'd like to fill out the 2013 class (Mitchell, Johnson, Bell, etc). He leaves it just means PSU will be far worse than they were this season and the B1G would be out another good coach.

Lovie getting the axe was a big surprise. So was Whisenhunt considering they were just in the Super Bowl 4 years ago. His downfall was that whole Kevin Kolb fiasco. Someone is going to pick both of them up and in a hurry.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest.Civil.War.Analogy.Ever

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Danify on 31 Dec 2012 - 5:20pm #

Would love for the Browns to look at Lovie Smith or the Gruden brothers (Jay or Jon) as their head coach. Lovie Smith would be bring a level of experience for this young Browns team, while Jay Gruden could infuse an exciting offensive gameplan with Cooper, Gorden, and Little. Jon Gruden is a pipe dream as he enjoys his work with ESPiN, but would be an experienced and motivated coach, which player respect and play all out for.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY on 31 Dec 2012 - 5:51pm #

Lovie would be a natural fit for Cleveland. Blue collar town, blue collar division in the AFC North, bad weather. That division also has the added bonus of not having the Packers in it.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest.Civil.War.Analogy.Ever

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William on 1 Jan 2013 - 2:16am #

I want no part of Lovie Smith, Jay Gruden would be an interesting hire, and Jon Gruden is a pipe dream. I would have liked to see the Browns go after David Shaw of Stanford, however he signed an extension with Stanford. 

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Danify on 1 Jan 2013 - 2:45am #

It looks like Chip Kelly is the Browns #1 target from sources throughout the league.

Adam Caplan @caplannfl

Two high-ranking #NFL personnel execs say Oregon HC Chip Kelly is the clear #1 choice for the Browns.

 

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2012/12/caplan-kelly-is-browns-clear-1...

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jestertcf on 1 Jan 2013 - 10:09am #

If the Browns hire Chip Kelly, I quit. It might as well be 1999 again, gimmicks do not work in the NFL. We don't see the wildcat anymore do we?

~Because we couldn't go for three~

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RBuck Mod on 1 Jan 2013 - 11:04am #

Except with Josh Cribbs.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

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kareemabduljacobb on 31 Dec 2012 - 6:07pm #

I think I just saw Bruce Feldmen predicted Ferentz to the Cheifs and Kelly to the Eagles.

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tennbuckeye19 on 31 Dec 2012 - 6:17pm #

Is Ferentz still eligible for B1G Coach of the Year if he's coaching the Chiefs?

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tennbuckeye19 on 31 Dec 2012 - 6:27pm #

Just saw a hilarious tweet from Dave Biddle over @ Bucknuts. He said "I bet Kirk Ferentz might actually beat Iowa State if he's coaching the Chiefs."

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Squirrel Master on 31 Dec 2012 - 11:32pm #

For my Chiefs: NO: Ferentz, Reid, O'brien, OC's, leftover's. YES: Gruden, Cowher, Lovie, Wisenhunt, Chip, Saban, Billick, any Harbaugh brothers left?

 


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MediBuck on 1 Jan 2013 - 1:02am #

Thank God the Whis was finally fired. His Superbowl run was a fluke thanks to Kurt Warner. As an AZ Cards fan, I've been incredibly frustrated with Whisenhunt stubbornly refusing to upgrade the QB and OL positions in the face of overwhelming public pressure. I know the guy is a class act and hope he does well, but his days were numbered in Phoenix. Hope we can bring Andy Reid in the new year!!!

"There is a force that makes us all brothers, no one goes his way alone." --Woody Hayes

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Northbrook on 1 Jan 2013 - 9:04am #

Some college coach will take a pro job and we will get a great OT prospect.

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BuckeyeChris on 1 Jan 2013 - 9:45am #

I know this isn't a Browns blog....but..... I am deeply concerned by the talk of Kelly and/or Saban (especially) to the Browns. What part of "previous successful NFL head coaching experience" do the Browns not comprehend? Just look at the losers the Browns have hired since ... 1999? Wow... Stop making Cleveland where new head coaches cut their teeth. Just stop. Hire someone who has SUCCEEDED in the NFL! 

On another note... anyone checked out BSD lately!? The level of denial those folks are experiencing makes me uncomfortable (i.e. "Why would BO'B leave here? He's in a great spot! He won't leave until after he wins a B1G title!"). Gang, he knows that his stock is never going to be higher. PSU promised him (as I understand it) that this was a legal and not an NCAA issue when he was hired. That's his out. He's gone; assuming one of these NFL teams does, in fact, make him an offer. 

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GH_Lindsey on 1 Jan 2013 - 11:17am #

BOB's stock could be much higher with some sustained sucess at PSU. Not mention that he has 3 more years of 0 expectations due to the sanctions. He knew what he was getting into at Penn State and I doubt that he would jump out of it so quickly, especially with the emotional bond he seemed to have with his team this year.

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steensn on 1 Jan 2013 - 9:50am #

No Swartz?! Come on!!!

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