I, too, don't think they'll be able to handle the speed off the edge of Clowney. If that guy was eligible to enter the draft right now - he may be the #1 overall pick.
I'm not sure how Denard's shoulder will be, either, and having said that - I wasn't overly impressed with Gardner. Plus Toussaint will be out. I say South Carolina: 30 Michigan: 17
You must have missed the game when they struggled against Wofford at home. 24-7, however it was only 10-7 going into the fourth quarter. Or how about their very unimpressive 3 point win over the lowly volunteers.
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I don't think you're crazy, man. Anything can happen in the bowl season when the teams have had weeks off and you can't really judge 18-22 year old's motivations on either side. Still, the think the speed edge on defense by the Cocks puts them over the top...but as Corso says --- closer than the experts think.
If the Michigan staff learns from its mistakes in The Game, Michigan can certainly make this a game. If Robinson can't make a pass, don't line him up behind center. Instead, run him out side and let him make plays with his legs. Michigan's defense held the OSU offense to just six points in the second half despite giving up three turnovers, so they can stop or slow the Gamecocks.
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Ohio State's band SLAUGHTERED Michigan's band. If this were a football game, it would have been Florida State vs. Savannah State. - SB Nation following OSU vs. UM 2012
USCe has been a hard team to get a handle on this year. They followed that 35-7 beatdown of UGA with consecutive losses at LSU and at UF. No real shame in that except that as bad as they beat UGA, UF gave it back to them 44-11. They followed that up with a three point win over a Tennessee team that won only one game (UK) in the SEC this year. Although they finished the year with four straight wins, they never came close to producing another game as impressive as the UGA win, making that game seem more and more of an outlier. I think USC probably wins, but they're not such a dominant team that I'd give michigan no chance.
I think over the course of a 60 min game the OL and DL of USC will take over the game. I don't think it'll get out of hand early like the Bama game but eventually Clowney and Co will be able to get pressure with ony rushing 4 and force mistakes. I also trust Spurrier over Hoke in big game preperation.
I really don't think South Carolina is over rated they blasted an VERY good Georgia team and then handed it to a 1 loss Clemson team pretty bad too. This game won't be close. South Carolina by at least 2 TD's, but it may not even be that close.
The only B1G/SEC matchup I see a chance in is Northwestern/Mississippi State. USC is going to win this easy, maybe the score is semi-close, but it won't be a game South Carolina fans get nervous in. Georgia is going to hurt Nebraska badly, that game is going to be really ugly.
That's pretty much what I thought after seeing the B1G lineup, followed shortly thereafter by realizing we've reached the point where Northwestern is the B1G's best representative.
I honestly could see the B1G going 0-7. At the end of the day it'd make the Buckeyes season look pretty special if Purdue, Wisconsin, MSU, Michigan, and Nebraska all won their games, but that's pretty unlikely.
I'd love for Nebraska to beat Georgia, but unless Georgia shows up disinterested and remains disinterested for four quarters, I think Nebraska gets blown out.
Maybe Michigan State beats TCU? I have trouble seeing Bell having a good day when Patterson has had time to prepare, but maybe? Or not.
I just don't see the others. Unless Alvarez works some magic. At least Stanford plays kind of like a B1G offense so maybe Wisky has a shot.
Can I count Rutgers over Va Tech as a B1G win?
I'm really tired of the SEC being the talk everytime I turn on the Tv, but I don't see them losing many of their bowl matchups. I can't believe I'm reduced to rooting for Notre Dame. And I'm doing it believing Notre Dame is going to get blown out. I feel cheap and dirty.
Well, one thing is for sure, if we want to quit hearing about the SEC then there are matchups that need to be won by other conference equals or superiors. I mean Oklahoma is the 2nd best team in the Big 12, they play the 3rd best team in the SEC west, and they'll probably lose. Nebraska, the 2nd best team in the B1G, plays the 2nd best team in the SEC. LSU is the 2nd best team in the SEC west and they'll play the 2nd best team in the ACC. South Carolina, 3rd best team in the East taking on Michigan, the 2nd best team in their division. Florida, 2nd best team in the East playing the best from the Big East. Then of course Bama taking on the only eligible undefeated team.
If we want to stop hearing about the SEC bowl season is prime chance to shut everyone up. I have no confidence that will happen though.
I actually have high hopes for the playoffs. Let's say the first or first & sceond year of the playoffs a non-SEC team wins the championship. The narrative then is completely different- the SEC dominated the BCS championships with their crazy selection rules, but look what happened when playoffs started....
Not saying that is what will happen, but that's my hope. I'm banking on Urban having turned us into a machine by then. And it'd be nice if those Saban-to-the-Browns rumors were true...
I think the absolute best case scenario is 3-4. That would actually be amazing and somewhat diffuse the "Big Ten sucks" crap.
I absolutely agree on Northwestern having a shot. I also think Sparty has a shot against TCU as well. Two defensive teams - expect a low scoring game, where one big play or one key mistake could determine the outcome. Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl is a decent chance. Wouldn't that be huge for the B1G if the 3rd place team in our division beats the PAC 12 champion?
Robinson's ability to score from anywhere on the field gives TTUN a punchers' chance.
Any team that gave up 35 to Tennessee and needed practically all 4 quarters to put away Wofford is hardly a mortal lock. Besides, the Cocks had Lattimore in their win over Georgia, and as far as their Clemson win goes, who did Clemson beat this season, really?
Think it will be close to being as bad as the Alabama game for them. Robinson will do little to nothing. Gardner will fare as well passing as he did against OSU. They cannot run the ball to begin with. And it will be a Clowney show. 37-17 SC. Lord help the B1G doesn't look like absolute weasel dung in all of their bowl games. Very concerned....
I think TTUN has a decent shot in this game. I feel their defense is improved enough to keep them in the game and contain USC's running game, but they will have to stop USC's passing attack. They don't match up well against USC on offense because they aren't an efficient passing offense and I expect rushing yards to be tough. On offense, play action and misdirection will be key to neutralize the speed and athleticism of USC's defense, but if they don't open up the playbook and call a game like they did against OSU, they will lose by 2 TDs.
I look at it this way. Those people keep singing the praises of jabba and how he is such a great coach. Here will be the true test. He has over a month to prepare, can he beat Spurrier? My money is on the Heisman winner and NC coach in this one.
I actually think they could win too. I'm not very high on South Carolina and believe they are as highly ranked because they're a product of the SEC. For SC it is really hit or miss as you can see with them stomping Georgia, barely getting by Tennessee and Vanderbilt and then pulling it out against Wofford.
You're not crazy...they have a "chance" but not a good one. They'll probably lose right along with the rest of tB1G. Northwestern and tTUN probably have the best chances...may be...???
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The thing is ttun cannot run the ball. They have to rely on Robinson to make the big play or Gardner making plays in the passing game. SC has the athletes on defense to contain DR and nothing says Gardner is able to come through. They will end up 8-5 and if they do not get incredibly lucky against NW in the last seconds of that game they would end up 7-6. And they still sing the praises of the almighty Mr. Flintstone. Go figure. A team that is "back".
South Carolina is going to make Michigan cry............... on a related note Brady C. Hoke is likely a stress eater
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As much as I despise hearing about the Mighty SEC, I hope that the Gamecocks demolish Michigan. Forget about conference loyalty, my two favorite teams in the world are: the Buckeyes and who ever is playing Michigan.
I could happen. I just don't see it actually coming to life. I would actually like for it to happen bc it will make up for the fact that the Big Ten is going to get killed in every other game. I think it all depemds on how Lewan does against the pass rush
When the bowl match-ups were announced, perhaps Michigan thought they got shafted having to play with the Cocks. I see two possible scenarios:
1.) Michigan gets blown out by the Cocks, and the Cocks beat that Michigan secondary all day on deep passes with the long ball.
or
2.) It could be a close game that hinges on 1 or 2 important plays. i.e.: the South Carolina Cocks QB pulls out early from under the Center and they fumble the ball, Michigan recovers and it's a decisive turnover to give Michigan the win. Or, at the end of the game, the Cocks are trying to tie the game, and they run a few naked bootlegs to set up a 4th & Goal at the Michigan 1. The Cocks runs a QB sneak trying to penetrate the line of scrimmage. They think they got just the tip of the ball in, but after video review - they didn't enter the endzone.
Yes, I see what your saying...but in the end, I think the Wolverines will repeatedly pound the Cocks until they've worn them down & softened them up enough to win a close one...
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You're crazy. I think South Carolina is way overrated, but Michigan is just not good enough.
Clowney will run wild on them
clowney is gonna eat lewans lunch lol
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I, too, don't think they'll be able to handle the speed off the edge of Clowney. If that guy was eligible to enter the draft right now - he may be the #1 overall pick.
I'm not sure how Denard's shoulder will be, either, and having said that - I wasn't overly impressed with Gardner. Plus Toussaint will be out. I say South Carolina: 30 Michigan: 17
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You're crazy. Physically, SC is just on another level.
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michigan's 4 losses came against opponents with a 46-4 record....OSU, 'Bama, ND and Nebraska.
They have seen 3 of cfb's best teams, so S. Carolina shouldn't intimidate them or posses speed they haven't faced before.
I have seen USC play a couple of times this year, and I wasn't overly impressed.
You must have missed the game when they dump trucked Georgia.
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You must have missed the game when they struggled against Wofford at home. 24-7, however it was only 10-7 going into the fourth quarter. Or how about their very unimpressive 3 point win over the lowly volunteers.
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I always go for the Big Ten tams (even Michigan!) in bowl games. Hope they make a good showing for the league.
Meatchicken simply does not have the talent to beat S. Carolina, not this year.
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I don't think you're crazy, man. Anything can happen in the bowl season when the teams have had weeks off and you can't really judge 18-22 year old's motivations on either side. Still, the think the speed edge on defense by the Cocks puts them over the top...but as Corso says --- closer than the experts think.
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If the Michigan staff learns from its mistakes in The Game, Michigan can certainly make this a game. If Robinson can't make a pass, don't line him up behind center. Instead, run him out side and let him make plays with his legs. Michigan's defense held the OSU offense to just six points in the second half despite giving up three turnovers, so they can stop or slow the Gamecocks.
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This is funny as hell...but also - Fuck the SEC.
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Crazy...Better question is whether michigan will score.
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I agree with you. My gut instinct is a Mich upset just like Carr's last game against Tebow in the Capital One Bowl.
honestly you never know its Denards last game he makes a few big plays and the defense steps up it could happen although I don't expect it to
Ohio State's band SLAUGHTERED Michigan's band. If this were a football game, it would have been Florida State vs. Savannah State. - SB Nation following OSU vs. UM 2012
Gamecocks by two scores if TTUN plays better than it did vs. OSU. If it plays worse? Could be just as bad as the Alabama game.
"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest.Civil.War.Analogy.Ever
USCe has been a hard team to get a handle on this year. They followed that 35-7 beatdown of UGA with consecutive losses at LSU and at UF. No real shame in that except that as bad as they beat UGA, UF gave it back to them 44-11. They followed that up with a three point win over a Tennessee team that won only one game (UK) in the SEC this year. Although they finished the year with four straight wins, they never came close to producing another game as impressive as the UGA win, making that game seem more and more of an outlier. I think USC probably wins, but they're not such a dominant team that I'd give michigan no chance.
I think over the course of a 60 min game the OL and DL of USC will take over the game. I don't think it'll get out of hand early like the Bama game but eventually Clowney and Co will be able to get pressure with ony rushing 4 and force mistakes. I also trust Spurrier over Hoke in big game preperation.
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I really don't think South Carolina is over rated they blasted an VERY good Georgia team and then handed it to a 1 loss Clemson team pretty bad too. This game won't be close. South Carolina by at least 2 TD's, but it may not even be that close.
I can see it being a good game but I think the Cocks will pull it out.
Class of 2010.
Nice.
The Cocks will pull it out early.
Do I think they will win? Yes
Am I confident they will win? No, they still suck
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The only B1G/SEC matchup I see a chance in is Northwestern/Mississippi State. USC is going to win this easy, maybe the score is semi-close, but it won't be a game South Carolina fans get nervous in. Georgia is going to hurt Nebraska badly, that game is going to be really ugly.
Northwestern has a shot.
That's pretty much what I thought after seeing the B1G lineup, followed shortly thereafter by realizing we've reached the point where Northwestern is the B1G's best representative.
I honestly could see the B1G going 0-7. At the end of the day it'd make the Buckeyes season look pretty special if Purdue, Wisconsin, MSU, Michigan, and Nebraska all won their games, but that's pretty unlikely.
NW and Wisky have a good chance. I think Alvarez is gonna have a ball with this one. He is 3-0 in the Rose Bowl so far.
0-7 definitely possible.
I'd love for Nebraska to beat Georgia, but unless Georgia shows up disinterested and remains disinterested for four quarters, I think Nebraska gets blown out.
Maybe Michigan State beats TCU? I have trouble seeing Bell having a good day when Patterson has had time to prepare, but maybe? Or not.
I just don't see the others. Unless Alvarez works some magic. At least Stanford plays kind of like a B1G offense so maybe Wisky has a shot.
Can I count Rutgers over Va Tech as a B1G win?
I'm really tired of the SEC being the talk everytime I turn on the Tv, but I don't see them losing many of their bowl matchups. I can't believe I'm reduced to rooting for Notre Dame. And I'm doing it believing Notre Dame is going to get blown out. I feel cheap and dirty.
Well, one thing is for sure, if we want to quit hearing about the SEC then there are matchups that need to be won by other conference equals or superiors. I mean Oklahoma is the 2nd best team in the Big 12, they play the 3rd best team in the SEC west, and they'll probably lose. Nebraska, the 2nd best team in the B1G, plays the 2nd best team in the SEC. LSU is the 2nd best team in the SEC west and they'll play the 2nd best team in the ACC. South Carolina, 3rd best team in the East taking on Michigan, the 2nd best team in their division. Florida, 2nd best team in the East playing the best from the Big East. Then of course Bama taking on the only eligible undefeated team.
If we want to stop hearing about the SEC bowl season is prime chance to shut everyone up. I have no confidence that will happen though.
Not this year, you're right.
I actually have high hopes for the playoffs. Let's say the first or first & sceond year of the playoffs a non-SEC team wins the championship. The narrative then is completely different- the SEC dominated the BCS championships with their crazy selection rules, but look what happened when playoffs started....
Not saying that is what will happen, but that's my hope. I'm banking on Urban having turned us into a machine by then. And it'd be nice if those Saban-to-the-Browns rumors were true...
I think the absolute best case scenario is 3-4. That would actually be amazing and somewhat diffuse the "Big Ten sucks" crap.
I absolutely agree on Northwestern having a shot. I also think Sparty has a shot against TCU as well. Two defensive teams - expect a low scoring game, where one big play or one key mistake could determine the outcome. Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl is a decent chance. Wouldn't that be huge for the B1G if the 3rd place team in our division beats the PAC 12 champion?
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There is a better chance of Hoke only getting 1 plate at the Golden Corral.
Robinson's ability to score from anywhere on the field gives TTUN a punchers' chance.
Any team that gave up 35 to Tennessee and needed practically all 4 quarters to put away Wofford is hardly a mortal lock. Besides, the Cocks had Lattimore in their win over Georgia, and as far as their Clemson win goes, who did Clemson beat this season, really?
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Hell no! scUM gets stomped
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Think it will be close to being as bad as the Alabama game for them. Robinson will do little to nothing. Gardner will fare as well passing as he did against OSU. They cannot run the ball to begin with. And it will be a Clowney show. 37-17 SC. Lord help the B1G doesn't look like absolute weasel dung in all of their bowl games. Very concerned....
I think TTUN has a decent shot in this game. I feel their defense is improved enough to keep them in the game and contain USC's running game, but they will have to stop USC's passing attack. They don't match up well against USC on offense because they aren't an efficient passing offense and I expect rushing yards to be tough. On offense, play action and misdirection will be key to neutralize the speed and athleticism of USC's defense, but if they don't open up the playbook and call a game like they did against OSU, they will lose by 2 TDs.
I look at it this way. Those people keep singing the praises of jabba and how he is such a great coach. Here will be the true test. He has over a month to prepare, can he beat Spurrier? My money is on the Heisman winner and NC coach in this one.
Heisman winner? What am I missing?
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OHHHHHHHHH, I'm with you now. I was thinking about current players/recent Heismans. TGIF!
I see where you were confused. Had I meant that, I would have prefaced it with 'September'.
My apoligies.
Maybe. But as others point out, USC has laid some serious eggs. I think ttun's defense can keep them in this game. Low scoring game.
Something about Mich taking the Cocks just sounds too good to pass up so let's go with the Big Ten on this one.
they'll be all over the Cocks like Hoke on a buffet. #easyjokes
I actually think they could win too. I'm not very high on South Carolina and believe they are as highly ranked because they're a product of the SEC. For SC it is really hit or miss as you can see with them stomping Georgia, barely getting by Tennessee and Vanderbilt and then pulling it out against Wofford.
You're not crazy...they have a "chance" but not a good one. They'll probably lose right along with the rest of tB1G. Northwestern and tTUN probably have the best chances...may be...???
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The thing is ttun cannot run the ball. They have to rely on Robinson to make the big play or Gardner making plays in the passing game. SC has the athletes on defense to contain DR and nothing says Gardner is able to come through. They will end up 8-5 and if they do not get incredibly lucky against NW in the last seconds of that game they would end up 7-6. And they still sing the praises of the almighty Mr. Flintstone. Go figure. A team that is "back".
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South Carolina is going to make Michigan cry............... on a related note Brady C. Hoke is likely a stress eater
Battles are sometimes won by generals; wars are nearly always won by sergeants and privates. Football is no different, the guys down in the trenches win the games, not the coach.
As much as I despise hearing about the Mighty SEC, I hope that the Gamecocks demolish Michigan. Forget about conference loyalty, my two favorite teams in the world are: the Buckeyes and who ever is playing Michigan.
I could happen. I just don't see it actually coming to life. I would actually like for it to happen bc it will make up for the fact that the Big Ten is going to get killed in every other game. I think it all depemds on how Lewan does against the pass rush
Michigan will get beat down by Cocks
When the bowl match-ups were announced, perhaps Michigan thought they got shafted having to play with the Cocks. I see two possible scenarios:
1.) Michigan gets blown out by the Cocks, and the Cocks beat that Michigan secondary all day on deep passes with the long ball.
or
2.) It could be a close game that hinges on 1 or 2 important plays. i.e.: the South Carolina Cocks QB pulls out early from under the Center and they fumble the ball, Michigan recovers and it's a decisive turnover to give Michigan the win. Or, at the end of the game, the Cocks are trying to tie the game, and they run a few naked bootlegs to set up a 4th & Goal at the Michigan 1. The Cocks runs a QB sneak trying to penetrate the line of scrimmage. They think they got just the tip of the ball in, but after video review - they didn't enter the endzone.
"You win with people." - Woody Hayes
Yes, I see what your saying...but in the end, I think the Wolverines will repeatedly pound the Cocks until they've worn them down & softened them up enough to win a close one...
The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.
They will get murdered in the trenches!! usc's d-line is prolly best in the country no game!!
We were beating their O line with our best D lineman out of the game in street clothes.
S. Caro. should be Michigan by about 3 TDs