I am only 18 so I never got to see Woody Hayes coach. So my question to you older folks is who would you rather have coach our team?
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Easy now. While I am happy with UFM, Woody Hayes is a diety amongst buckeye faithful. Let's wait for a few national championships and heisman trophy winners before we talk about this.
~Because we couldn't go for three~
Hayes by a mile
Right now I would take Urban/ 60's 70's WWH. I think Urban has a portrait of WWH? I think the 2 are similar, both seem to have the what is best for the student/athelete mentallity. R.I.P. Woody. Can not really say cuz 2 different eras, both HC's brought/ bring an energy to their teams, WWH did alot for TOSU, HC Meyer we all hope will do the same.
I wonder if Woody and Bo are arm wrestling in heaven this week.
O-H
Immediately people will say Woody and I respect the man immensely, but my question is - could Woody coach in this day and age with the way kids are now? What about blogs/tweets and all of the other media things that we deal with now? Woody was old school as you get and things are different now. I am not saying he couldn't - I am just saying it's a different world and I personally think that you really can't compare the two. I LOVE Woody and our proud OSU tradition and I LOVE what Urban is doing for our program now so it's a win all around for us.
Meyer has done a great job this year, but he's going to have to prove himself for a lot more than one season before he's even in the same sentence as Woody Hayes.
2 different eras of college football. Woody was awesome for the time period in which he coached, but my guess is that he would not fair as well today. Urban, although a big fan of Woody and a disciple of guys like Earle Bruce and Lou Holtz, is smart enough to have taken what he learned from those guys and adapted it for the game today.
Woody was the perfect coach for a certain time in OSU football history, just as I believe Tressel was and now we have Urban. And for now Urban is the perfect coach to lead this team.
Urban has done some great things in his football career but he has a ways to go for me to put him with the ranks of Woody. At the rate Urban is going he could surpass the Woody era but 5 NC is not going to be an easy road.
As far as Woody Hayes football in this era, I think he would do fine because dominant deffenses still win championships (which he has had) and mobile QB's do well in college footbal (which he has also had).
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Woody. I'm 48 and grew up in the 1970s. Coach Hayes, in my humble opinion, is the greatest college football coach who has ever lived. Just look at the numbers: Woody was at Ohio State 28 years and won 13 B1G titles, five National Championships (54, 57, 61, 68 and 70), and coached several other OSU teams that could have / should have won a National Title (72-75 to name four). I'm not great at math but that's, essentially, a B1G championship every other year and a National Championship every six years. And remember, when Coach Hayes was winning B1G titles conference championships meant much more. The number one goal for Woody's Ohio State teams was to win the B1G. Don't misunderstand, I love Urban Meyer and wouldn't trade him for any coach in the country. However, there can be only one "the best there ever was"... and for me that's Woody Hayes.
I also had the pleasure of watching Woody in the late 60's on
Woody and his teams were without a doubt something speacial to watch in the 60's & 70's and I think we will be in for a treat for the next several years of the Urban era but that chapter has yet to be wrote.
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WOODY! Nuff said.GO BUCKS!
I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.
urban for me prolly cuz i didnt see woody coach... but when comparing ppl are looking at 40 + yrs to not even 20... apples to apples id like to see a better comparison for example when woody was 48 how many championships? did he have a 7-1 bowl record? did he have a 83% winning percentage? woody is a diety around here and rightfully so... but i wouldnt want any other coach than urban fuckin meyer right now!
mark may wins douchebag of the year... again
Well it isn't a fair comparison bowl-wise because there were far fewer bowls in Woody's day. If you didn't win the conference you didn't go to a bowl.
By my calculations, at age 48 Woody had a .660 win pct (counting only D1 schools Miami and OSU), 3 national titles, 5 conference titles, and a 3-0 record in bowls.
A lower win pct than Urban, but one more national title and undefeated in bowls (which were all a much bigger stage back then since there were so few of them).
Twice (1955 and 1961) Woody won the Big Ten but did not go to a bowl. In 1961 the OSU faculty declined the Rose Bowl stating that academics needed to be more important than football. In 1955 Michigan State went because the Big Ten had a rule that no team could go two years in a row and OSU had gone the year before.
woody or urban? wow!!! hard to say. woody is like king in tosu history, with numerous national titles. urban has 2 titles and an undefeated buckeye team with just one recruiting class he calls his own and even some of them were already recruited before he got here. if i had to choose one to lead the way tomorrow, well urban the first half and woody the 2nd half. hows that? or woody the first half and urban the 2nd half. that way if the game goes overtime, we have urban already on the field and he is undefeated in his career in overtime games.
Let's throw Tressel in there to make it even more interesting....
All labor that uplifts humanity has dignity and importance and should be undertaken with painstaking excellence. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
In all the world there's only one
WW Hayes
(old billboard for the Jai Lai restaurant that had Woody's picture on it)
We have to go by bowl wins, overall records against michigan, wins totals period, and percentage of wins.
All labor that uplifts humanity has dignity and importance and should be undertaken with painstaking excellence. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
upvote for you sec buckeye. however i would take woody or urban before i would tressel.
I agree but his success as a michigan killer, a respectable 6-3 record in BCS bowls, and a national title has to give Tress somewhat of an edge in Buckeye history. I don't really think we appreciate how good the Vest really was.
All labor that uplifts humanity has dignity and importance and should be undertaken with painstaking excellence. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
I would like to see what Tressel would have done in the next ten years. It really sucked that he finally got that sec monkey of his back and then he's gone. I for one appreciate every year I have had the pleasure of watching him coach.
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oh i appreciate what tress has done, my gawd he was awesome. but tosu has been blessed with some great coaches. how about paul brown way back, he has a title. then there is woody and bruce and john ( i cant beat michigan) cooper, tress, and now we have urban. tress took me from the edge of a nervous breakdown with john cooper, to some sanity. love tress, but urban did take him down in the championship game.