Hard to argue with strength of schedule and how close almost all games have been. Computer rankings are based on forumlas, nothing we've done this season shows well in any formula anyone would make up.
Agree Menexenus -- 11-0 carries a helluva lot more weight than 7-4, I don't care what your schedule looks like. This isn't comparing us to maybe someone like Notre Dame. If ND lost a game with that gauntlet of a schedule I could see them still being ranked ahead of us, but USC has lost 4 games! FOUR!! Definitely demonstrates that the Sagarin rankings are meaningless.
I'm still baffled why everyone still says notre dames schedule is so tough. Starting the season it was tough on paper then the season started.
vs. Navy sucks
vs. Purdue sucks
at Michigan State sucks
vs. Michigan denard arm punts. They are much better with Gardner at qb
vs. Miami sucks
vs. Stanford good now
vs. BYU sucks
at Oklahoma terrible d
vs. Pittsburgh lost to Youngstown st
at Boston College sucks
vs. Wake forrest sucks
at USC no Barkley and can't play d
our schedule isn't harder but nd schedule is not a hard schedule looking at it now.
Have any of you actually ever seen Jeff Sagarin? The dude epitomizes the "40-year old nerd who lives in his mother's basement" I doubt the guy has ever actually played a sport other than chess club and ever had the luxury of having a flesh-in-blood willing girlfriend. He may be a math wiz and have a super-sophisticated computer model, but I put as much stock in this guy as I do a dead horse being able to fly a stealth bomber (i.e. NONE)
One thing I remain perplexed by, why in the name of hell do the college football powers that be use his computer model to come up with the BCS rankings? Who did he pay or whom did he pleasure to get that honor? Why him?
"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest.Civil.War.Analogy.Ever
Sagarin's rankings are a joke. I'm sorry, maybe 'stats don't lie', but last week we were ranked 20th, but Nebraska was ranked 19th? Last I checked (and saw in person) we embarrassed them with a 63-38 spanking. I'm just surprised people even care about his rankings. USC is better than us? Aren't they, uh, unranked now?
Is this the same Florida that came two miracle plays away from being beaten my Louisiana Lafayette? The same Cuse team that lost to Northwestern? The same Georgia team that got badly spanked by SOUTH CAROLINA??? The same South Carolina team that couldn't handle Vanderbilt quite as well as Northwestern? The same Alabama team that got DOMINATED by a team that embarrassed itself in the Big XII last year? Jesus H. Fucking Christ!!!! Tell me what makes that schedule harder than Notre Dame's?
Sagarin's computer still hates us. Now we're 14th, just behind Oklahoma State at 13th. Oklahoma State is 7-4. That is one F-ed up computer! Just sayin'...
Here's the link, in case you're curious.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt12.htm
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Hard to argue with strength of schedule and how close almost all games have been. Computer rankings are based on forumlas, nothing we've done this season shows well in any formula anyone would make up.
I think "wins and losses" is pretty easy to put into a formula! :-)
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Agree Menexenus -- 11-0 carries a helluva lot more weight than 7-4, I don't care what your schedule looks like. This isn't comparing us to maybe someone like Notre Dame. If ND lost a game with that gauntlet of a schedule I could see them still being ranked ahead of us, but USC has lost 4 games! FOUR!! Definitely demonstrates that the Sagarin rankings are meaningless.
I'm still baffled why everyone still says notre dames schedule is so tough. Starting the season it was tough on paper then the season started.
vs. Navy sucks
vs. Purdue sucks
at Michigan State sucks
vs. Michigan denard arm punts. They are much better with Gardner at qb
vs. Miami sucks
vs. Stanford good now
vs. BYU sucks
at Oklahoma terrible d
vs. Pittsburgh lost to Youngstown st
at Boston College sucks
vs. Wake forrest sucks
at USC no Barkley and can't play d
our schedule isn't harder but nd schedule is not a hard schedule looking at it now.
Purple Raider
Name 1 schedule harder than Notre Dame's. I dare you.
"I like to kick Michigan's ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of gum."
Alabama
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
Not according to Sagarin. Notre Dame is at 30 and Alabama is at 39. Unfortunately, we're at 51. :-(
Real fans stay for Carmen.
I don't care what Sagarin says.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
Do they do drug testing on these guys before they allow them to be part of the BCS?
Well doesn't that mean we can name 29 schedules harder than Notre Dame's?
What about Florida? They've played just about everyone.
I wouldn't cheer for Michigan if they were playing the Taliban.
Florida
Oregon
Kansas State
Florida
Iowa St., Baylor, Kansas, Texas, Chokelahoma, WVU, Ok St. and ole miss all have tougher schedules than ND.
http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/current_congrove_rankings.html
Savannah State.. well the first two games at least
L 0-84 vs OKST
L 0-55 vs FL ST. called in the 3rd for lightning.
~Because we couldn't go for three~
Hopefully his computer likes us next year
O H I O is the Buckeye State
Have any of you actually ever seen Jeff Sagarin? The dude epitomizes the "40-year old nerd who lives in his mother's basement" I doubt the guy has ever actually played a sport other than chess club and ever had the luxury of having a flesh-in-blood willing girlfriend. He may be a math wiz and have a super-sophisticated computer model, but I put as much stock in this guy as I do a dead horse being able to fly a stealth bomber (i.e. NONE)
One thing I remain perplexed by, why in the name of hell do the college football powers that be use his computer model to come up with the BCS rankings? Who did he pay or whom did he pleasure to get that honor? Why him?
"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest.Civil.War.Analogy.Ever
Sagarin's rankings are a joke. I'm sorry, maybe 'stats don't lie', but last week we were ranked 20th, but Nebraska was ranked 19th? Last I checked (and saw in person) we embarrassed them with a 63-38 spanking. I'm just surprised people even care about his rankings. USC is better than us? Aren't they, uh, unranked now?
@Nova Buckeye how about Florida's schedule?
@ Texas A&M
vs. LSU
vs. S. Carolina
vs. Georgia
@ FSU
Jeff Sagarin's latest pic
Thanks @buckupnorth. I'm sure if we wanted we could probably come up with a couple others as well
Purple Raider
@BuckUpNorth Touche.
"I like to kick Michigan's ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of gum."
@ nova bbuckeye this is missouri's schedule
vs. Georgia
vs. Arizona State
at South Carolina
vs. Alabama
at Florida
vs. Syracuse
at Texas A&M *
Purple Raider
Is this the same Florida that came two miracle plays away from being beaten my Louisiana Lafayette? The same Cuse team that lost to Northwestern? The same Georgia team that got badly spanked by SOUTH CAROLINA??? The same South Carolina team that couldn't handle Vanderbilt quite as well as Northwestern? The same Alabama team that got DOMINATED by a team that embarrassed itself in the Big XII last year? Jesus H. Fucking Christ!!!! Tell me what makes that schedule harder than Notre Dame's?
Sagarin's computer still hates us. Now we're 14th, just behind Oklahoma State at 13th. Oklahoma State is 7-4. That is one F-ed up computer! Just sayin'...
Real fans stay for Carmen.
The good thing is they throw out your best and worst rankings from the computer so if we were to be ranked Sagarin's poll wouldn't matter
The other computers used in the BCS actually have ohio state ranked much higher. the sagarin is our outlier
http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/current_congrove_rankings.html
gives the SOS of every FBS team
and no, ND's sos is NOT #1 (it is 9th)
Impressive, 9th hardest SOS and undefeated.
I like this ranking much better, even though it does nothing for my argument against ND's schedule.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
OSU's best wins - Nebraska, Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn ST
Georgias best wins - Florida, Vandy, Missouri, Georgia Tech
All labor that uplifts humanity has dignity and importance and should be undertaken with painstaking excellence. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.