Michigan against Northwestern #63 offense.
Put 31 points with 27 first downs also they had 431 yards. What is amazing 34 minutes of time of possession.
Northwestern ran 81 to 63.
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judging by how our defense has been playing, i'm not sure they'd fare that much better than scUM's D. we gave up 49 to INDIANA, and they've given up significantly less to our common conference opponents. we probably average ~20 more ppg than their offense, so some of those points against us are definitely in garbage time...but still.
I think he is trying to say tsun is not as good as their fans and players believe.
Many of the points we gave up to Indiana were in trash time and we have come a long way since then can't really compare common opponents like that.
My Tsun fan buddy says that Michigan has the #1 passing D in the country. How is that possible??
Yes there are two Buckeyes in Ann arbor on this site!
Going into this week, your TSUN buddy is correct
There are a lot of shitty defenses out there. Being average basicly puts you in the top 40 at least.
Should point out though that their rush defense is #44. We rush a lot more than we pass.
Look at the quarterbacks in the Big Ten. That's why they have the #1 passing D.
They also played 2 teams OOC (Air Force and Notre Dame) that don't pass the ball very much to begin with.
their #1 passing D is definitely due to the level of competition. they have a decent passing D, which is all they could probably hope for after they lost their #1 CB against bama (poor man's roby), but if they played against oklahoma, west virginia, or texas tech, things would be much different.
tTUN is overrated...period!
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@NMAXWELL, I'm not trying to troll, but couldn't you say the same thing about osu's #5 ranking? It's obvious they are a pretty good team, but have benefited by a very weak schedule. I see the same for Michigan's D, they are a pretty good defense, but have also benefited from pretty weak passing competition. The biggest concern for Michigan's defense is how they sometimes let scrambling QBs get the edge. Braxton could have a fun day in two weeks, but thankfully (for Michigan's sake) he doesn't have a sidekick like Venric Mark. I also have a ton of faith for Mattison to prepare the defense very well for The Game and he is great at getting his team make successful adjustments.
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@blue are you the guy on penn state's defense that said he didn't know who number 34 on our team was? because im pretty sure jordan hill found out that's carlos hyde, leading scorer in the big ten...been trucking dudes week in and week out
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please don't try to compare the style of Carlos Hyde and Venric Mark. Mark is a much better back and if you think Hyde would start over Mark if they were both at osu, you're crazy.
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didn't say that. but he's got three more touchdowns, and the tandem of miller and hyde is getting almost 300 rushing yds/game. i'm saying you can't think the osu O is a one-trick pony of Braxton Miller because it's not.
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Hyde gets the ball at the 2 yard line and pounds the ball in, that explains why he leads the B1G in scoring. His longest run is 29 yards. Braxton is that rushing offense, much like Denard is our rushing offense
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@ Iblowinsconsin- how do you know who would start between Hyde and Mark, if both were at OSU? Hyde, Smith, Mark and Braxton would all start at Michig@n, if you ask me.
I will say Mark is not a better back in the OSU offense...were doing just fine...Mark fits that style of offense NW is running but I will take Thunder and Lightning anytime over Mark and whats his name at QB at NW... Hyde is a great compliment to Braxton... facts are facts, numbers are numbers...Mark is a different type of runner than Hyde so its hard to compare unless you go numbers alone, which Hydes are better... Hyde>Mark.
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@Blue,
Hyde is averaging over 90 yards a game, that is 7th in the B1G. He is also averaging 5.1 yards/carry, a higher average than LeVeon Bell of Montee Ball. Comparing him to Venric Marc, a very good and very different runner, is pointless. Using this weak argument to support your mistaken belief that "Braxton is [the OSU] rushing offense" is wishful thinking.
Hyde's # would be much more impressive too had he not got injuried and then barely get carries when Hall was back on the field. If he was the #1 guy the whole year and maintained his health, or got the bulk of the carries in those games that Hall did he would most likely be close or over 1000 yards by now and somewhere around 15-18 TDS. I'd take Hyde over Ball anyday.
Now i'm not saying Hyde isn't a good player, I think he is, and I would gladly take him at Michigan this season over Fitz. But if you think any team prepares for anyone other than Braxton, you are mistaken. When you play NW, you have to prepare for both Colter (if they actually put him at QB) and Mark....
@TFOX you do realize Urban Meyer made Florida b/c of players like Mark, not Hyde. You should also look at the numbers again between Hyde and Mark before you claim Hyde's are better...Mark has more yards, more yards per game, higher average yards per carry and better receiving stats (although both players receiving stats are not impressive). Mark also returns kicks and punts (2 punt return TDs
players like Mark are exactly who Meyer wants in that offense and Mark is 10x more dangerous of a player than Hyde and that can't be argued.
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@blueinsconsin I hope tsun is listening to you and they only prepare for Braxton b/c they will be amaized & blue after they get a dose of Hyde and I will be LMAO
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guess i meant TDs... my apologies...i forgot what were even comparing.... i could care less about Mark or NW to be completely honest... Wisconsin is next... Mark is fast and Florida-ish yadda yadda...as for Michigan , they might wanna prepare for the RB Hyde....and not focus on just Braxton " like every team does"....if were averaging close to 300 yds rushing, I dont think Miller is getting all 300....just saying
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@blue
"Mark is 10x more dangerous of a player than Hyde and that can't be arugued."
10x better seems a little too much to me. stfu.
F--- Michigan!
Blueinwisc: you were doing fine until you write something silly like, "Mark is 10x more dangerous . . . than Hyde." By your math, Mark must be the second coming of Barry Sanders. I'd give you the benefit of doubt - that you meant "10x" only as a figure of speech - except that it seems like you really do have amazingly high regard for Mark (or amazingly low regard for Hyde). For what it's worth, Hyde is already considered a better pro prospect than Mark and he's only really getting started.
As for Michigan's defense, it is actually pretty good. Thing is, you can't always gauge how good were the offenses Michigan faced simply by adding up the yards and points against. Obviously, matchups come into play; but also teams have good days and bad days, etc. Anyway, Michigan has defended against three other offenses better than NW's: Bama, Notre Dame, and Nebraska. That Michigan's defense played their worst games against Air Force and NW doesn't make those two teams offensive powerhouses (or see: Ohio State's defensive performances against Cal and Indy).
Btw, Michigan is #1 in (raw) passing defense (yards per game), but 21st in passing efficiency defense. Michigan has played mostly run-first teams (like Bama and Air Force) or teams that simply cannot pass the ball. The highest rated passing team Michigan has played so far is Purdue (61st).
Also, FWIT, FEI ranks Ohio State's and Michigan's defenses as roughly on par.
@run_fido yeah, 10x was maybe a little much and it was a figure of speech. As for pro prospects, I don't really care too much, there are always guys who are better fits for the college game than the pros. Mark very well could be one of those players and Hyde could have a better pro career. Plus, I don't like the NFL. Yes, I do think Mark is a great player and like I mentioned before, I also think Hyde is good, but he's not nearly as dangerous as Mark.
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Hmmm well I hope every coach we play thinks like that and doesn't account for our rb who basically has 700 yards and 14 tds in 7-8 games.
If this guy was our running back, I'm sure Hoke would take notice, and game plan to stop him at all costs!!!!!!!
@blue.....why in the world would you come onto an Ohio State board and talk about Northwestern of all things? What would you really expect to accomplish by doing that?
Battles are sometimes won by generals; wars are nearly always won by sergeants and privates. Football is no different, the guys down in the trenches win the games, not the coach.
OSU is much better than Nerdwestern...and I guarantee that Mark wouldn't start over Hyde at OSU. I'm sure you saw the same style of offense we use beat up on your "so called" great defense by Nerdwestern. I'd say pray Urban takes it easy on Gabba in their first game against each other...Good Luck Blue.
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@Blue,
Where you're wrong is when you stated that it was guys like Mark that were the reason for Urban's success in Florida. He had a guy exactly like Hyde, except he threw the ball a little more. Hyde is our Tim Tebow-the talented, downhill, power runner off the offense. Urban's spread is designed to have a "thunder and lightning" type feel where he can either beat you with pure speed on the edges or run it down your throat and run right over you. At Florida, Urban had Percy on the edges, but why would we need another speed back on the field at the same time as Braxton? Here at OSU Urban has his speed runner as his QB rather than his power runner, so he needs the power back to be his running back. So rough translation is Braxton = Percy and Hyde = Tebow in terms of running styles
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Maybe it's like how the Cleveland Browns are ranked in the top ten in pass defense every year. Why throw on them, when they can't stop the run?
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