Just saw a front page article on ESPN asking if the SEC should still get a shot at the title. Shut the F*&%^ up is my response. That is all. Thank you.
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Braxton Miller is out of the College Football Daily Heisman Top 5.....Ohhhhhhh yeahhh, bring it. Hopefully this OSU team is getting fed all this love from the "World Wide Leader".
Could not have put it better.
it really is getting old. i believe in order for it to stop though, an SEC needs to be in the NC and just have them get absolutely trounced. Otherwise the talk will continue onthe basis that "they beat up on themselves being in the best conference in college football"
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
If two or more teams are undefeated, than NO, a loss is a loss. And the ovious team would be Bama who got lucky that Les is an idiot, and got torn up by Johnny Football. May be going out on a limb here but A&M looks like the best team in the SEC, they had winnable games against LSU and Fla, as they blew leads in both. K State and ND have the easiest games left. And if Oregon gets out of November without a L, they should be in for sure. My Guess: K State vs Oregon for all the marbles.
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If Miller isnt invited to NY as a finalist than, I am done with College Football. If he does his part and keeps winning, than its BS if he dosent get an invite. Funny how McCarron who was bumped up so high, has fallen already.
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I'd like to put Dari Nowkah into a viscious suplex off the top rope, for his putzy spewing of the "company" line.
This will be the hot topic for the next month so might as well get used to it. I think suggesting that Alabama could beat an NFL team, as Spurrier reportedly did, would qualify quite nicely as a perfect example of the term "overrated." However, the fact that the top teams in the SEC have won 6 straight BCS titles have earned the SEC champion special consideration. To definitively put an end to that run, to quiet the S-E-C chanting and media hype, I think it would be most satisfying to beat the SEC champ head to head. My guess is that the other contenders for the BCS crown this year feel the same. Putting aside the issue of who the Buckeyes match up best against, who would you rather meet in the BCS championship If the Buckeyes were eligible this year, K-State or Alabama?
It looks like he is still #5 to me
http://espn.go.com/college-football/heisman/
Edit - Although the guys over at heismanpundit(who are considered to be the best at this) did drop Braxton from their list last week FWIW.
It just gets sickening. A&M comes into the league and beats up on the big boys. We are not talking about another true SEC team but rather a rookie team built for another league that has come into the supposed all-powerful SEC and has knocked some teams on their a##. It's easy to claim superiority until another league's team comes in and does what A&M has done. You can't spin that fact.
^^^ I think you mean A&M.
Tech? Do you mean A&M?
As my best friend always say, "FU. Don't lose."
"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes
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I still believe that most years any of the top programs could beat each other on any given day regardless of how the media and fans perceive it. That is why I try to appreicate each win. It's not as easy as we sometimes think it is!
YES I did. See how pissed off I am? Lol
Who cares what ESPN says... I understand they are homers, but if Oregon, ND, and K-State will do their job the last fews weeks of the season the SEC will have no shot... Being from the south I hate the SEC just as much as anyone, but it is what it is... They've won 6 in a row including hammering us twice. We need to focus on The Ohio State University and an undefeated 2012 and 2013 season to get us in the title game.
The SEC is 8-1 in the BCS championship game. The one loss? Last year when LSU lost to Alabama. Hate the SEC all you want but no other conference has produced anything even close to that.
There is no arguing that point. Agree and accept. However, just because you have won the past games does not automatically qualify you for a spot in the current year's title game. Each year is individual of others. That is my only argument. Take the top two teams and they play just like last year when we got Bama-LSU pushed down our throats. If the other teams win out then no argument can be made, but I assure you there will be.
I had fun with all the SEC homers who try to call themselves fans on that topic.
It does not surprise me that ESPN is trying to still make a case for an SEC team getting into the NC game. But here is the thing, they need a miracle at this moment for that to happen. You get no sympathy from me for not going undefeated in your conference while there are still three undefeated teams ahead of you who have all played more ranked teams than you at this particular time. Bama had a cupcake schedule and should not have even been ranked #1 after seven weeks to begin with. Then you let a glorified Big 12 team come to your backyard and beat you all the while making you look very average on the field. BTW A&M was supposed to get a rude awakening coming into your conference, they brought their big 12 team who couldnt win anything in that conference and knocked off your top dog and you still want to make a case for roll tide? Get out of here.
Its very simple. When your in the position that Bama was in its you win your in easy as that. You dont then you better pray USC can pull of two miracles or its curtains for the NC. Then notion that this team or any team in the SEC should get a free pass because they have won the last six NC games is just sickening. Your really going to discredit what the other undefeated teams in cfb are doing in their conferences because you want to drink the kool aid? Not gonna happen.
All in all if Bama doesnt like it then get out of your conference and go somewhere else. That is what everyone else is doing anyways. You shouldnt even be ranked #4 right now because of the pathetic showing you put on at home on saturday but the human voters are basically robots IMO and are all about the hype as opposed to the facts.
Sorry for the long rant but I have been in ALOT of arguments with people over the polls and the notion of a one loss Bama still making it to the NC over undefeated teams.
Each championship game is supposed to be about this season and this season only. Past results, no matter how impressive, should not figure into the discussion.
I realized the pollsters are already buying into the whole 'the SEC deserves to be at the top' with 6 teams in the top 10... But oh the glory if they get held out of the NC game and we will all relish in their emotional pain!
@Cplunk,
Each championship is supposed to be about matching the two best teams that season in the championship game. Where most all sports have some type of playoff system to determine who those best two teams are, CFB still does not. This means we have to find some other way of determining who the best two teams are. The fact that computer formulas are involved in this determination should tell us all quite clearly that people are not confident in making the right decision. Information is needed. What a team did last season, and what players that team returns is useful information. What conference a team plays in is useful information. These factors alone should not decide the issue, but they are relevant. If such information was not considered relevant teams, how would/will we decide between three unbeaten teams? If conference strength was considered irrelevant teams like Boise State, Utah, even Hawaii could've/should've played in recent championship games, an omission that very few complained about. I am not arguing that Alabama is better than any of the other unbeatens, nor am I advocating that they should be given a place in the National Championship Game. However, I am saying that if they win out this season, if they pound Georgia in the SEC championship game, they deserve serious consideration. To dismiss such consideration as media hype or bias is to deny what we have seen play out in front of our eyes for the last six years.
Your going to put them in consideration all the while if Oregon goes on to win out and win their respective conference and if K state keeps playing at the high level they are all the while winning their conference? Bama at this moment needs to not be mentioned in the title picture while there are undefeated's left in football. Once you have those teams lose a game then yes talk bama back into the picture because then it is warranted. But these teams are winning while bama had a hiccup. You dont think its fair then talk to OKst and ask them how fair they thought it was that despite a loss they still WON their conference and took a backseat to an alabama team who didnt even play in their conference championship.
Should they still get a shot? I wouldn't say no but HELL NO
O H I O is the Buckeye State
The SEC deserves the same shot as the rest of us. Get a cold beverage, get on the couch, and turn on the TV!!! I'm not a hater. I want them to be able to relax at home and enjoy the game
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Hell no!! If two teams are still undefeated then tell the SEC to suck it up. Alabama will still get a good BCS bowl but the only way they should still get a shot is if 2 of the 3 unbeatens lose
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Espn is just trolling
Actually ESPN's Brad Edwards current BCS Bowl predictions has Alabama getting left out of a BCS Bowl.
Edwards believes Georgia will beat 'Bama in the SEC Title game, and that Texas AtM will get the other BCS At large draw from the Fiesta Bowl.
Edwards went like this:
BCS NC: Oregon vs K-State
Rose: Notre Dame vs Nebraska
Sugar: Georgia vs Clemson
Fiesta: Texas AtM vs Oklahoma
Orange: Florida State vs Rutgers
http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls/projections
also, Edwards has:
Michigan vs Florida- Capital One Bowl
Wisconsin vs 'Bama - Outback Bowl
haha! lot's of ball left to be played.....
Whisky vs Bama this one could get ugly
O H I O is the Buckeye State
Why don't they just write an article that says "Should College football go to a 16 team playoff to make it to the title game against the SEC champion?"
It almost seems like they stack the sec in the rankings to the point it is impossible for aleast one of them not to make it to the title game. Last year was so easy they were able to slip 2 of them in there. This year if 2 of the eligible undefeated slip up then that equals an sec team gets in and I can only guess what happens if#1,2 & 3 all loose.
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It's a moot point if there are at least 2 undefeated non-SEC teams. Everyone understands that, and I can't imagine anyone at ESPN is stupid enough to argue otherwise. Maybe Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson would, but they're basically a PR firm masquerading as sports announcers.
Even last season, Bama would have been left out of the title shot if Oklahoma State had simply won its game at Iowa State.
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I made a forum post about this and this might be sacriligeous. But I'm pulling for ND and KSU to stumble so that Alabama can get into the NCG. I think Oregon would beat them as I think Alabama doesn't have the horses to keep up offensively. Yes Alabama's D will slow Oregon down, but not enough IMO. We've seen that Alabama's back seven can be exploited in the passing game.
The only way that the SEC spin from the media will stop or go down a notch or two is if they get punched in a big game for all to see that yes SEC teams aren't automatically better for playing in the SEC. If SEC teams or at least Bama win their bowl game than at worst their reputation will be untarnished in the eyes of the national media. And it's likely that these media experts would push to have Bama nominated anyway.
I really want this talk of maybe a one loss SEC team deserves to be in the NCG over an undefeated BCS team to be put to an end this season. Because next year Ohio State could run the table if their D continues to improve and BM's passing ability grows. I could really see people saying OSU ran through a soft schedule and put in a one loss SEC team over them. Oregon topping Bama would help ensure that doesn't happen next year or in the future.
If two of K State, Oregon, and the Domers stay undefeated, then there's now way a 1-loss SEC team should get a shot at the title this year. However, if a 1-loss SEC team does get a shot, I hope they get absolutely blasted. I think many of the SEC teams are a bit overrated this year. For example, Florida has the 104th ranked Offense in the country this season. I suppose their 5th ranked Defense has kept them in games.
USC will beat UCLA this week, ND next week, then Oregon in the Pac-12 title game.
We'll end up with 'Bama/Georgia vs K. State.
UGH.
They should only get a shot if two of the three eligible undefeated teams that are left lose before then. I'm pretty sure the rage from the rest of the country if they make it in over any of the undefeateds that are left will be unprecedented.
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The only SEC team I will root for to make the MNC this year is UGA. Mark Richt is a class act running his program the right way
Honestly, the SEC hasn't looked like its usual self this year anyway. I haven't seen the dominance of previous years, especially with Alabama. Sure, they've put up good numbers, and are the best scoring defense in the country, but that's not saying as much as it looks when you look at how offenses have been playing in the SEC this year. They had a close call against an LSU team with an especially weak offense, and lost to the noobs with the spread (A&M), giving up nearly triple their average points. I'd also kinda like to see an Alabama-Oregon natty, just so everyone will shut up about the SEC, because I don't see Alabama being able to keep up with the ridiculous Oregon offense. That said, the matchup I really want to see is KSU-Oregon, because I think that would actually make for a good game. Ideally, Alabama will lose again and be completely out of the conversation, and no one will be questioning whether the SEC should be represented.
...and Michigan still sucks.
I don't know why they keep discussing this. It's very simple.
You have Oregon, Kansas State, Notre Dame all unbeaten. If at least 2 of those 3 teams go unbeaten - no, SEC, sorry about your damn luck. If at least 2 of those 3 teams lose, then the SEC champion could and probably should be under consideration.
ESPN, just stop. There's a lot of football to be played. Let's cross that bridge when we get there, k? K.
Class of 2010.
Yea, let's give Kentucky, Mississippi, Tennessee, Missouri, Auburn, Arkansas and Vanderbilt a shot.
No.
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