I never thought Penn St. was going to suck. Ok, so after losing to Ohio and Virginia I thought it started to look that way, but I did wonder why everyone felt like they would be terrible.. with plenty of 4 star guys and some 5 star guys still on the roster and their biggest losses coming at running back and kicker why wouldn't they still win with more talent than everyone they played minus 2-3 teams? Because of the scandal? They beat us at home in the middle of it last year with many of the same players coming back. Mr. Bill is getting crazy love from the media for beating the same bad big 10 teams people use to discredit the Bucks and Urban's undefeated run. The time to be impressed with Bill-O is if he can keep winning after the loss of scholarships and lower level recruits show up. Maybe he will end up being what the media thinks he is now, but I really think his record matched the talent he had to work with this year. His stock is way up and he should jump now if the NFL really is looking at him, because even if he is that good he won't be able to show it at Penn St over the next year or 2 and his stock will drop big time. Yes, I think he's good (maybe very good), but if you read the articles mentioning him as a coach of the year candidate, I think for now, he's overrated. I'm a homer but with Urban going undefeated with mostly the same team that was 6-7 and Bill losing 4 games, I really think Urban did a more impressive job. So Bill may win the NCAA coach of the year or the BIG Ten coach of the year but I'm not, and more importantly, McKayla is not impressed.