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•Football Schedule•Basketball Schedule•Forum•About•ContactDown 52-50 against a good Anderson County team with just 14 seconds left Ryan Timmons did what he had to do with no doubt in his or as important his team mates mind. His field vision and ability to explode is equal to his speed.
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Waycraken, You are obviously very high on this kid. Do you know anything about him other than his field pressence (grades, kind of person, etc)? I know his accomplishments may be viewed as great, but are they great because of the level of competition or would he hold up in a tougher league? Just curious because some of his hi-lites seem pretty good.
Good lord that kid is a beast. The lateral movement is pretty amazing, and the speed is great. I hope that this kid gets an offer soon and becomes a Buckeye. He is pretty damn good.
Great kid. Heard he has 3.5gpa. Youth leader in church. People like him, his success does not seem to go to his head, but inside he knows he is going to the NFL. Personally I believe once he gets into a college training proram he will have more upside than anyone.
as far as his physical build his stature looks stronger than most receivers on the board.
Has anyone explored the possibility that Waycracken actually IS Ryan Timmons?
Waycracken/Ryan, let it be known that I'm a fan of your talents, and hope you get an offer from Ohio State
@Ethan
I don't think so. He usually posts during Timmons' Friday night games. So unless Timmons' really is superhuman...
Waycraken,I know you take some heat about your love for Timmons, but the kid sure seems like the reall deal to me. Sign him up already!!!
wow.... this was the first timmons highlight I saw.... wow....
@dBIT. Wouldnt ya hate to meet a person that talked that much about himself. I feel like Rivals/Scout system seriously lacks validity. If a kid doesnt get in that circuit early they become the sleepers.
Especially with some of the attrition with our receivers, I would like to see Timmons get his offer. I still want to see a downfield route running deep threat brought in. We don't seem to be needing many more slot type guys. I want a big name Devin Smith/Michael Thomas type to compliment these slot guys on the outside in the years to come...which is why I was hoping for Foster all along. Oh well. 2014 we should hopefully get one.
I like his shakes, but he looks like he is playing against some extremely scrub competition. Would have to know more about his league before I was interested.
Frankly this comp level debate is way overdone. Are these kids as good as college level players? No! But do not over estimate most programs out there.
Sign him up, plain and simple.
Greg Jennings "I put my team on my back"
I wholeheartedly agree on the competition argument. Jerry Rice didn't play against the best college level talent, but he was good and someone found him. Timmons has talent and this coaching staff has found him. I think the fact that he doesn't have an offer yet speaks more to what the staff sees in Gibson, Quick, and the like more than it speaks to the perceived lack of competition that Timmons plays.
Q: what exactly is the "competition level" when you have :15 left in the game, your team is down and you are about to receive the kickoff? I mean as far as toughness, how does that scenario grade out?
i forgot, not only are you losing, but you are currently undefeated for the season too...
theDuke
You would have to believe in a normal year with no scholarship reductions this kid would be a commit by now.
Good point theduke! Id call that manning up. I read in the paper who ever received the ball they were going to get him the ball and the entire team knew he would score as well as everyone in the stands. Amazing they even gave him a shot. Teams have only kicked off to him 3 times all season and he has scred all 3 times. Also only once on a punt and it was also a TD.
Damn ^ that"s serious
Waycraken, how often do they line him up in the wildcat?
Most of the time 2-3 plays. Unless QB needs an extra breather. Its pretty effective because a big 250 pound RB normally lines up beside him. Not absolutely needed though because they have a well rounded D1 QB signee that is as important as Timmons is to this team.
protip: go to about :12 seconds into the video. when he turns the corner that's a different gear.
theDuke
I can't stop watching this. That was amazing, with so much on the line.
this about the game too:
Anderson County Coach Mark Peach agreed.
"What can you say? I know (Trinity star) James Quick gets a lot of ink, but he can't be any better than Ryan Timmons. There's no way. To me, he's Mr. Football.
Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2012/10/12/2370271/franklin-county-edges-anderso...
theDuke
Yeah - I may be just as enthusiastic about this kid as Waycraken at this point. When you pretty much have to score a TD on a return & do it with that kind of speed & elusiveness, that is some special shit. His teammate barely got him the ball & he was gone. He made every other player on that field look slow & outgunned. No more plan B, no more BS, this kid should be a Buckeye. Please.
The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.
Amen Duke.and Poison I read a quote from Conners coach in the Cincinnati Enquirer last year and he said nearly the same exact thing.
kids legit. there isn't a coach in the world that can teach that kind of spead. What can i say? hope they don't keep him "holding on" for too long.
theDuke
Don't know about anyone else but he reminds me of Stefon Diggs, shifty and can change direction on a dime. I know how bad Urban wanted him, you would think he'd be salivating over this kid. He would be worth a scholarship if all he did was return punts and kicks.
anyone else notice the block that helped spring timmons? Guy original got the ball flipped it to Timmons and then ran out to get the key block that gave him some room to work. Very nice.
oh yeah, Timmons is pretty good also.
“The teams that don’t respect their coaches and don’t trust their coaches are the teams that go .500"
~Zach Boren
The coach said it best
"You can tell people what he does, but unless they see it for themselves, see it live, they can't appreciate it."
I'm sold! I think he should get an offer!
JEDKAT. I agree didnt notice that before but that was key.
I really feel like our defensive effort this weekend is going to cost Timmons an offer. I think with the success of our offense and the haul of playmakers we already have in that class, the priority is going to go to linebackers since our current crop is so thin between injuries and a lack of understanding. I could see us getting 4 lbs in this class not including Lewis. If they only get 3 more I bet they start Lee off as an LB. Either way I think barring us whiffing completely on LB after LB, Timmons may be on the outside looking in. I'd love to see him as our primary returnman.
Pretty amazing stuff right there.
The kid is nasty. I'm trusting the staff at this point tho. They'll offer if they feel they need him to be a Buckeye.
With the way our defense is playing maybe we need to sign a boat load of speed guys on offense, because we will have to put up 50 a game on offense to win!! I have heard so many good things about this kid and his highlights are crazy good. But at this point, he has to be on the outside looking in. I would assume OSU has other players probably defense in mind for the remaining scholarships, and if we don't get one of those guys then I think he gets a scholarship. But if OSU really wanted him I think they would have offered him by now.
2 solid months of Timmons game highlights, he attended camp at OSU, right? Something is missing here. Sure, and offer, but why? Hope the kid the best of futures, but what is it that is holding our coaching staff back from an offer? any thoughts?
My take is Quick and Gibson have first dibs on roster spots and if either chooses not to join, then Plan B.
Looks like he was playing against a bunch of 8th graders but I have to admit the speed is pretty impressive !!!
Good player's make the play's they're suppose to, great player's make the play's they're NOT !!!
Timmons for President 2012
We need him asap like as of yesterday!!!! when he put his speed on it was unreal how he just blew past both defenders
Waycracken, I really think people bring up the competition all the time just to give you a hard time. I've honestly NEVER heard competition mentioned for any recruit Ohio State has ever offered. From the infancy of recruiting speak on this website to the obsession driven levels we have now Timmons is honestly the only kid I've ever heard competition talked about and mentioned so much.
I wasn't refering to the competition, I just thought he looked like a man amongst boys. I'm on Ryan, I mean Cracken's side on this one, if the kid can score practically everytime he touches the ball, I don't care how bad the competition is, the kid must have skillz !!!
Good player's make the play's they're suppose to, great player's make the play's they're NOT !!!
I'm from Toledo, and there is a QB here by the name of Brogan Roback from St. John's that everyone was raving about going into his junior season. B1G teams were interested, including Michigan. Until he met competition. He met his first test in Whitmer. Whitmer's defense has been really dominant the last couple of years. Whitmer silenced them to only 7 points, when they were averaging 40 points a game. Teams backed off of him immediately and now he's stuck having to commit to Eastern Michigan.
My point is competition is a factor, but the kid is a freak and a playmaker. He wouldn't have offers from the likes of Arkansas & West Virginia if he didn't have skills. The only two offers that kinda standout. He's a dark horse in the recruiting game, I personally believe he's a gamble, which is why I believe he has no offer and we are offering other prospects before him, Tyler Boyd and Sabastian LaRue for examples.
I'm not so confident that he will end up as a Buckeye, but if he does, I will welcome him with open arms as I do every recruit and wish them the best.
The dude is killing it in Kentucky, but I wish he was playing ball in Ohio, Texas or Florida so I could see what he can do against top tier schools on a weekly basis. I would feel much better about Timmons if that happened.
If Quick goes to Louisville, Timmons will get an offer. Sadly, he will probably have to wait to recieve that offer after James' decision on where he wants to go.
An interesting observation. THEDUKE Or someone else please help me varify what I am observing. In full football gear after receiving the ball at the :14 second mark on video he runs the full width of the field and makes his first cut inbetween two tacklers and shifts northward to his own 35 yatd line. At this point in time he has ran 35 yards or more in 3 seconds plus. Here he reverses the field running mainly eastward for the first 20 yards and begins his radial to the north at thatpoint and at the 50 he is heading northward. I calculate from the 35 to the end zone he ran 90 yards in 9 seconds as he crossed the line at 2 second mark on clip.
In full football gear a return that included a 90 degree cut an evadeded tackle and a field reversal and covered in my best evaluation.
125 yards in 12 seconds
first 35 yards plus a cut in 3.5 seconds
The next 90 yards in 8.5-9 seconds
last 40 yards covered in <4 seconds.
NO WONDER HE LOOKED LIKE a man among boys. He did the same exact thing at FNL.
I could be off + or minus 5 yards on distance traveled but he clearly receives ball flat footed at 14 second mark and crosses goal line at 2 second mark
I was sorta glad you mentioned this again. There is no question about his speed when he outran guys like Shelton Gibson and Devon Allen at FNL.
@ethan... And he would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you snooping kids!!! It's a scooby doo mystery!
Wherever you are, there you be!
Genestar, I didn't say competition wasn't a factor at all, just that I've been coming to this site for years and I've never heard competition mentioned about any of the recruits Ohio State has ever gone against. We've had 4 and 5 star guys who come from great programs that don't pan out. Remember Rob Shoencroft? He was a stud QB for St X, he ended up transferring to Delaware or Delaware St something like that. There are other guys in this class that don't play the greatest competition too, and Timmons has played against some high ranked teams in the state so week in week out, yeah he's not playing in the GCL or Trinity's schedule, but honestly, at worst he'd be roughly the same as Quick. I think Quick also benefits from playing on the same team with several D-1 recruits that also draw attention on offense but no one ever takes that into consideration.
All of the comp level crap is very hard to prove or disprove. My only wish would be for tOSU coaches to be upfront with him (and I am not saying they havent been) but for them on one hand tell him an offer is near and turn around and offer Tyler Boyd??? Personally I would also agree with the naysayers on here that he is plan B.
id like to follow his success in college and it would be great if it was the Buckeyes. Hoping UK makes a move soon on coaching I believe if they get the right coach it would be ok. At this point maybe just gear it back for NLI day.
I am still trying to figure out what's going on here. He got one or two good blocks early on, but honestly it looked like the rest of his guys barely blocked anyone. By the end there was one dude in white and 6 dudes in blue running down the field, why didn't those dudes in blue stop earlier to block someone. It didn't matter because that dude can run, but it seems like they could have blocked someone instead of just running down the field with him.
Waycraken - What are we trying to prove about the competition? There are kids on that field that quite frankly look like 8th graders. I'll take the extreme other side - when you watch Joey Bosa highlights he is playing against teams that look like weak D3 college teams and he is simply manhandling them, he looks elite against elite HS competition.
I guess my point is the competition looks weak which means it's going to take more to prove he is or isn't that good. If he did indeed run wild at FNL why doesn't he have an offer? Something doesn't add up.
Would he make that run if there was a Cam Burrows, Joey Bosa, Eli Woodard on the other side? Maybe, but we don't know.
We're getting a little carried away comparing high school teams to DIII squads. I mean I suppose some could possibly compete, but I'm not even so sure that Trinity would knock off a couple of the local D3 programs here in the NKY/Cincy area. Those teams are made up of kids who come from good programs. Just because a team like Trinity has a few D-1 recruits doesn't mean they'd be able to be a team that is older, bigger, and have talent as well.
Here's the thing, guys come from horrible schools and succeed great in college football and guys come from great programs and fail. Tim Couch and Shaun Alexander did pretty damn good for themselves in college coming from horrible programs and competition. Ray Small and Justin Zwick were total flops but highly rated recruits who played in tough leagues. The competition card is overplayed. Timmons will probably be a great player in college where ever he ends up, and it'll have nothing to do with where he played or who he played against in high school.
Waycracken your obsession with this kid is scary. What's the deal?
Run_Fido's favorite word is strawman.
@Albert
My post wasn't targeted against you or anybody for that matter, it was my personal belief and opinions, nothing more. I'd rather not get into debates or take shots at fellow Buckeye faithful. If my post was a reply to you, it would be like what I'm doing now lol. Just to clear that up.
That's fine, I didn't take offense to anything you said either or anything like that. I just don't understand why high school competition has only been relevant to the Timmons recruitment but quite literally no other Ohio State recruit the past 5 or 6 years. Perhaps it's because he just doesn't hold an offer yet. I don't know.
At any rate, that's the only point I was trying to make from the get go.
@waycracken; what you are observing is a guy who won all three sprinting state titles in track last spring (please correct me if I'm wrong)... the 100,200, and 400 i believe, don't know much about track, but i think that means he's pretty quick. Speaking of, James Quick won the 200 and 4x ? relay, so yes, they are both really fast. Other than that, they look almost identical unless there's a big descrepency about what Timmons is listed at, 5'10 190ish. At first, i thought waycracken was crazy, but now I'm thinking this is a toss up between the two and Timmons has said OSU is his dream school. I just don't know any more... this is like picking what i want for lunch today; 5 Guys Burgers and Fries or a big greasy Triple Baconator? Need to find a good coin to flip.
One key on the competition, someone else will have to tell me how it works in KY, but I saw that Quick's team is Div. 6a and Timmons is 5a. Is that like Ohio's Div I and Div II?
edit: to anyone following this, i think the reason waycraken is so high on the kid is because Timmons loves OSU and if we don't act on a sure thing there's a chance you miss on both of them.
theDuke
You have got to think we can at least get one of either Quick or Timmons. The speed is needed. Sure hope we don't miss on both.
haha, great minds think alike Lou...
theDuke
If the level of competion wasn't relavent, based on the Madden type stats, and his performance at FNL he would already have an offer.
Good player's make the play's they're suppose to, great player's make the play's they're NOT !!!
More bad news for Timmons, JUCO WR Corey Smith was officially offered today which is committable
@sidz, it's all a mess. look at his performance at FNL. isn't that supposed to be good talent? just playing a little devils advocate. If we know the kid will give us a "yes" on the spot, be enthusiastic and rep tOSU properly, i say sign him up ASAP. but again, i only played football once, about 15 years ago, on a cold and snowy december day...
Don't really want to go down this road, but awwwshucks... I think if JT were still coach he'd have an offer, if all the other off the field stuff i've heard is true. whewww. that was a lot of "if" scenarios... sorry about that.
theDuke
Damn. This dude looks tough. He's a lock if offered right?
I know there's a game saturday, and my ass will be there.
I agree BuckeyeJason. I don't care what anyone thinks, this a beyond weird.
I'm not saying he isn't an athelete, i guess my only point is obviously the staff is taking his competition into consideration. If you compare him to Gibson, the staff seems to be giving Gibson a chance to get his grades together. Gibson was ready to commit and the staff said hold on. On paper Timmons looks like a far superior athelete, but obviously the staff feels Gibson plays better competition, and is holding off offering Timmons to see what happens with Gibson. According to Cracker, Timmons is a great kid, good grades, model citizen, not to mention his freakish skils, so obviously the only thing holding the staff back is the competition he plays against. IMHO I believe Timmons would be a pretty good college athelete, good student, and good role model, Gibson would probably be a good college athelete but still struggle with grades.
Good player's make the play's they're suppose to, great player's make the play's they're NOT !!!
i think osu ought to take gibson with his questionable class room skills, before they take timmons. timmons----- 3.5 gpa, humble kid, church goer, speed, great hands. not much upside with timmons is there now? nope not at all.
is it possible to go to a store and buy great speed, and great hands?
@btalbert: Rod Smith's competition level was talked about as one factor in his recruitment. Indiana does not have elite high school football, and my recollection is that some doubted his competition and how he would stack up against a more powerful league. Vico, in his OHD Better Know a Buckeye write-up of Rod:
Must Work On: I do not claim to be an expert on Indiana football, but I do have some reservations about the quality of competition he played. Most high school football everywhere is pretty bad, but a more battle-tested prospect is likely to make a bigger immediate impact. It is worth seeing if this is Roderick Smith.
I agreed with Genestar on this kid. I think he does have good athleticism. I'm not sure that it's quite elite, though, and I trust Urban's judgment in his offers to skill players.
I hope the guy is a Buckeye! Someone asked what the difference in competition is though. How many have you have played varsity sports in high school? I'm sure most of you have! I'm also sure most of you have played against the junior varsity when you played for varsity. That's pretty similar to the level of competition this guy is facing. I think that that is the concern that the OSU coach's have and thats why they are holding back on offering..
Frankly I would rather have a kid who wants to be a Buckeye over someone who isn't sure if they want to be one anyday of the week!
There are a few reasons that I think people ask about his competition:
1. The guy puts up video game stats. You have to look at competition level for anyone putting up those kind of stats because they seem almost impossible.
2. There has to be a reason he hasn't been offered. He has amazing stats, performed well at FNL, and has the type of speen Urban likes. It just seems weird he hasn't been offered, so people are trying to figure out why.
3. There seems to be multiple forum topics every week regarding the kid. Anyone who has that many topics devoted to them are going to have more questions asked about them. If someone posted about Zeke Elliott 2-3 times a week talking about his stats being ridiculous, I'm sure there would be some people asking about his competition level and how he compares to other recruits...especially if he did not yet have an offer.
Also, just because people ask about his competition level, that doesn't mean they are saying they don't think the kid isn't good or are bashing him in any way. It is just a way of trying to find out more about him as a prospect.
Personally, I wondered about his competition level because I could only find a couple videos on YouTube for him, and none of them blew me away because the other teams looked small and slow and the videos looked just about the same as any other elite high school player's highlights. The last one waycraken posted definitely impressed me though. Hopefully there is room for him in the class and he gets an offer.
All I want to know is why this kid deserves an individual thread every week... Why don't we just make one for everyone, especially the kids that are already committed. People have been brainwashed on here, by Waycraken. Timmons is good, but not on Quicks level. At all.
Buckeyes125, whie Quick may be a little bit better, Timmons is no scrub compared to him. If we say Quick is an 8 out of 10, Timmons is a 7.5. I don't care how bad his competition is, it takes some serious talent to put up those numbers. He literally scores more often than he gets tackled. Not taking away from Quick, as he's a phenomenal athlete and WR, but if you put Timmons on a team with as much as talent as Trinity he would put up similar numbers because right now defenses are committing 2 and 3 defenders per play to Timmons, whereas Quick occasionally gets a second
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Buckeye125 it should be simple for you Do not read it. Look at the video if you wish. But to complain and say brainwashed is hogwash. Reporting his weekly stat has been requested by many. As far as your opinion of James Quick that is all fine and for you to express this so strongly means you have first hand knowledge seeing both just like myself, but coaches and media in the state of Ky who have seen both play may or may not agree with you. Last year as juniors both received 42 votes apiece as the best in Ky. Trinity without james Quick would still more than likely be undefeated. Franklin County without Timmons most likely .500. Quick playing for Franklin County and Timmons for Trinity probably makes each team nearly as good Personally i believe FC would not be quite as good because of defense, kickoffs and punts and Timmons would give Trinity more than Quick gives them overall.
@TRIV. We think a little bit alike. I saw your post right after I posted.
there should be no question about his athleticism he was the fastest at fnl.... fwiw every cb there said gibson was the toughest to guard...
mark may wins douchebag of the year... again
@Waycraken
I tend to enjoy recruiting quite a bit (and by that I mean I can't get enough of it). I enjoy looking at who could be suiting up for the future of the school I attend and love. Seeing another fan so convinced about a player got me intrigued, and I've watched a lot of Timmons tape in the past few weeks. I am definitely convinced, the kid has lateral quickness like I've never seen, and breakaway speed that reminds of Teddy Ginn Jr. Shitty competition or not, those are things you only see out of a handul of athletes. It's not that opposing teams miss all the tackles, they don't even touch him.
Now I'm not saying Timmons is all world, next great OSU player. I'm just saying he has talents at least equal to that of James Quick. OSU would be lucky to have either of them, as both of them make opposing players look silly at the high school level. Here's to hoping one or both do the same thing at OSU
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Honestly, I don't see how competition doesn't play. It looks like he plays 8th graders out there. Trinity would defiantly not be undefeated without Quick. Okay, maybe people ask for updates. Put it on the high school thread.... Obviously that is what it is for. You talk like you know the kid, like he is your family or best friend. If your a grown man, this a creepy. I wouldn't mind if Timmons committed, and I think he is better them Jacobs, but you act like Timmons is God.
I just don't understand why I am the only one seeing all or this.
Buckeyes125. I have posted an individual post 1 time on Timmons in 4 weeks. This one was to do no other than to share a video from the game which I spoke of from Friday night that his coach posted. This film by the way I found has spread pretty quickly to other national sites
ive been an avid fan for many years. If internet was around when I was younger I most likely would have gotten on here just the same as you with one major exception and that is it wouldnt be to disrespect someone. I already know you are going to try and justify your remarks its part of growing up.
I did do some research and I only chose 3 players using Max Preps. This has absolutely nothing to do with how I feel about the player but EE from St Louis average comp level ranking is 8200. Boyd from Pa 8500. Burrows even with game agains #14 averages 4800. Timmons team averages 6800. Now you tell me?? Highlands plays Elder this weekend. Will be interesting to see how badly Elder beats them as Franklin County is very comparable to Highlands and are #1 and 2 in the state for scoring.
competition and timmons huh? timmons has speed and he has great hands, can we all agree on that? i can agree that if the competition was better, maybe timmons game winning kickoff return may have been just a 40 yd return, or 50, maybe 60. and maybe some of timmons yardage he gets from playing "phantom" 8th graders as some detractors claim, ( i dont agree with the detractors by the way), maybe he wouldnt have as much yardage and maybe a couple less touchdowns. imo, what does it matter? again as i stated above, he has great hands, and great speed, and he is coachable. and the anderson county coach has seen quick and timmons, and he says they are equal. i am hoping timmons gets a scarlet and gray uniform. by way, i have seen timmons play several times this year. he is the real deal.
Think this kid looks great. I think he could make it at OSU with the tools he has. I do remember the running back from Ohio that committed to ttun, Deveon Smith, the thoughts were his competition was very poor. And supposedly, that was the reason we passed on him, or that we didn't really go after him hard.
how 'bout if you dont like Waycracken's posts on Timmons, don't read them? not too hard. nobody's feelings get hurt. we're all good. He's just hoping a kid from his area gets a chance to suit up in S&G.
as a side note; a few years ago there was a little guy by the name of Ryan Brewer that OSU whiffed on...he ended up at S.Caroina, and yeah, just look it up... makes me sick. I hope if we don't take Timmons that he doesn't Brewer us sometime down the road.
theDuke
Against a halfway decent team he would have been down at the 25 yard line IMO. No offense but it looks like he's playing middle schoolers. Seems like a good talent but to say he's on the level of Quick is absurd. I'm okay with waycracken posting updates every few days but do it in the high school thread, theres no need to make new threads every day about a player who doesn't even have an offer.
Timmons is the MAN! Watched Quick on ESPN one night after going to a Franklin County game and watching Timmons in person. F competition, Timmons is BETTER!
anderson county coach compared quick and timmons, and i respect his opinion, says timmons and quick are equal. says they are both mr.kentucky football.
Get off crakens @$$ !!! I applaud the fact that he believes so much in this kid that he continues to provide us with the updates after continually getting so much grief about it. Waycracken is probably one of the main reason Timmons is getting a serious look from the staff. You can't teach speed. Keep fighting the fight Waycracken!
Good player's make the play's they're suppose to, great player's make the play's they're NOT !!!
OHST8BUX Many who have seen both thinks so. Really they are 2 different players and styles. As far as getting tackled at the 25 obviosly he didnt and the team they played is a good team that is well coached. They would beat 90% of Ohio D2 teams and several D1 as well. You can say what you just said about any game film. There were 4 good blocks that he read correctly. Then none of your teams in your mind can run that kid down. He covered all that distance estimated at 120 yds in full football gear in 12 seconds. THAT my friend is Unreal.
I can't wait for this class to be finished. If he DOES get in the class, I will enjoy updates. If he doesn't get in, Waycraken can finally shut up.
This is an Ohio kid wearing a buckeye inspired scarlet and gray uni... I love it. Don't remind me about this story if he ever actually dawns the maize and blue.
D. Anthony
I would love to see Highlands play Franklin County. Shame Highlands is only 4A and not 5A. I do find it interesting that Franklin County in a few of the state rankings is ranked below Cooper though. I'm pretty sure Barker and his not very good Conner team beat Cooper. I do think Highlands would probably beat any team in Kentucky though not named Trinity, and I think that game would be closer than others would expect. It's been a long time since anyone in Kentucky has beat Highlands. I'm thinking they'll beat Elder this weekend, they did last year.
Been following this Timmons/Waycraken saga for some time now and finally watched some of his highlight tapes. Just my opinion, not stating as a fact, but he does not look like a D1 player. I can not even tell what level of football I am watching, but it appears to be freshman or maybe JV football. He may have a niche, ala Trindon Holliday, but does not look like he could be an offensive contributor.
Just a fair warning to the community, next year's Waycracken/Timmons will probably be btalbert25/Drew Barker.
Buckpocalypse, what makes you say Timmons doesn't look like a D1 player? Do you think he's slow?
Bucktpocalypse - really? There may be debate as to whether he should be a Buckeye - there's probably zero debate as to whether he should at least be a D1 player..
The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.
I do not think he is slow at all. I think he is tiny. That is why I likened him to Trindon Holliday. I think he could have a niche as a return specialist. I do not, however, see him as a D1 offensive player unless it is as a gimick. When I say D1 I mean every down offensive player. I am not impressed by his highlights, as I think if you put any current buckeye target against the same competition numbers would be identical. The only reason they would not be better, is they can't. You can only gain as many yards as the end zone is far away.
Tiny? Kid is 5'10 180. He's bigger than Taivon Jacobs who already committed
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
5'10 cause the internet said so? I don't suppose his coaches or he would have any reason to inflate his height. That has never happened before.
He was eye to eye with Shelton Gibson at FNL so no not because the internet says so. Also 3 recruiting site have him listed at 5'11" so adding an inch to your height is prettty standard, so I will stand by my 5'10" comment.
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Not trying to hate on anyone at all, in fact I like waycrackens enthusiasm, but I just don't see how anyone in their right mind can watch both Quick and Timmons highlights and even try to say that Timmons is anywhere near Quicks' level. It's not even close. While their times are comparable on the track, on the football field Quicks speed blows by Timmons. Not that Timmons is slow but any means but to say he's as fast as Quick is ridiculous. Quick plays the toughest high school schedule in the nation and makes kids look like their standing still, Timmons plays terrible competition and while he looks good its not as impressive as why Quick is doing. I'm a member on 24\7 and rivals and literally this is the only place I ever see any mention of Timmons. Not trying to hate on Timmons at all, seems like a great kid and is for sure a player. I'm just really getting sick of having to see comments about Timmons on every single post when they're not warranted and he doesn't even have an OSU offer. I understand the concept that if you don't want to read about it you don't have to click on the forum post but people are starting to get brainwashed (for lack of a better word) by these Timmons posts and write about him on forum posts that aren't even about him.
You are using historically inaccurate sources to support your historically inaccurate source, and they probably just borrow the information from each other in the first place. All I am offering you is my observation, not fact. He appeared to be one of the shortest if not shortest person on a field full of short people.
I also totally agree with OHST8BUXCP on every point. I hate to root against a kid coming to OSU if he warrants the schollie but these posts are making it hard to even want this kid in Scarlet and Grey. In Urban not Warcraken I trust.
I don't care what you guys say about competition or size. The guy finds the endzone, that is a skill. When you average 4.7 TDs a game, you know how to get there.
and I love how buckpocalypse compares Timmons to Trindon Holiday like its a bad thing. Memory serves me correct, during his college years he was quite something to watch and very helpful to his team.
@waykraken, at least keep me updated on how Timmons' season finishes up. Hope the best for him, looks like a great athelete and from what i've heard an outstanding person.
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This is all good. The ones that seems to question his comp level are some of the same ones also questioning his size. Comment im about to make is not intended to question any other athletes but if you talk small In football I first think build. The athletes you see on that field are much taller than you are thinking Anderson County had kids up to 6'5 on that play and FC had several 6'3 kids. Timmons is probably 5'11 and 190 with a strong structure. You want to talk small you are talking Quick and Elder. Ive seen Elder live. He was electrifying but maybe 165 very thin. Ive seen Quick in basketball also and he is probably the skinniest kid on a basketball team. I for one dont think that will matter but a college will put weight on them and speed will come down. In Timmons case he is already adding the weight and might be getting faster!!
its all good I trust Urban also. They still call on him something is going on above all of our knowledge. I half expect 25 to be the number when it is said and done. Finally if Urban doesnt think he is the real deal why do they continue to ask for his patience.
That highlight reminded me of the episode of King of Queens when Doug suited up and played against the pee wee football team he was coaching. If you haven't seen it check it o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89Av4A5-_a4&feature=youtube_gdata_player ut. It's about 7 minutes in.
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Highlands only beat Elder last year because Elder had 7 senior starters suspended because of a party... It was still close. Mostly sophomores took the seniors places.
Quick doesn't look 165 pounds at all. He for sure looks bigger than Timmons.
I would think Elder has a good shot at winning. They have beat some tough teams. I didnt say Quick was 165. He is prob 6'1 170 or so.
Waycraken, you pretty much nailed Quick's size. Scout has him as 6'1" - 175.
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@buckpocalypse: i am 5'9" and i guarantee timmons is taller than me i have to many of his games this year. i say he is a good 5'10' probably 5'11"
Elder is ranked 61 in the nation according to Rivals and Max Preps for what its worth. It's always tough traveling down to Fort Thomas though.
I come back from LA land at CVG like 3:30. Might take in that game since Im there.