Eleven Warriors

I am the type of fan that wants TSUN to lose every game. I will always cheer against them. It wouldnt bother me if they came into THE Game with 5 losses.

I don't know if I can say I'd root for them to win the rest of the year, but the thought of knocking off a top 10 michigan team just makes me feel all good inside.

On paper, I don't see anyone beating michigan until The Game this year.  Possibly Sparty with their D (but winning would require them to have somthing that resembles an offense), but I don't see any other B1G team stopping Denard.  But as we know, the game's not played on paper so who knows what will happen. 

I don't know about the rest of you, but I can't help but feel so confident about The Game this year.  With wanting revenge from last year, and our explosive offense, I just don't see ttun touching us this year.  The D needs work, but as Roby said in his tweets last night, he's not losing to them again.

Can't wait - just thinking about the game gets me pumped.

I want them to win every game, to me it is better for the overall BIG, I hate them just as much as anyone else, but them losing all their games doesn't help us at all. I want the BIG to be dominant, so when we dominate it, we will look that much better.

I will never, EVER root for Michigan.

I must concur... I want a depressed, sluggish, nothing-to-play-for team moping on the bus to Columbus and crying on the way home. And I hope their heater on the bus breaks on the way there as well...

I'm with Ausmos - I hope they lose every remaining game!!

Michiscum? Really? Can't we talk about something more interesting, like hemorrhoids or athletes foot?

careful gobucks713 or herbie will go on the radio and give you a public lecturing about how distraught all the children of Michigan fans are.

Who in their right mind would want Michigan to win anyway? I always root against them, no matter what unless it had some implications that involved Ohio State in some matter.

Screw ttun hope they never win another game

fixed it, thanks.

No. 

If they win out that means when Ohio State beats them, they'll still be going to Indy. No thanks.

Excellent point BUCKEYVSTHEWORLD.  Up vote for you!  I do not want TTUN in Indy, cause they'd prolly win. 

I AM worried about this game now - I wasn't before.  This game is going to be a shootout, and our D better show up and shut down Denard. 

Regardless, I am the type that wants TTUN to lose...always.  Even if it means making Bama and the SEC look good (OK, REALLY good).  If there truly are implications with our conference looking bad...I am too stubborn to care.  I thought I died and went to heaven when Oregon and Appy State beat TTUN in back-to-back games in '07 (when they were ranked #2 pre-season). 

Don't know why people on both sides of this issue are being downvoted...I have yet to see anything inflamitory to the point of a downvote....downvote the trolls and the bastards, not peoples opinions.

@Jakebuckeye - when I saw the name of the post, I was curious to see the comments. This discussion has happened a bunch on this site with the majority (that I've noticed) being aboard the "F Tsun, I never want them to win" boat. And thats fine but at the risk of getting down voted (which is lame as hell to do just because some people prefer beating a stronger UM) I know where you are coming from. Ohio State is a school with a lot of traditions. One of them is The Game....People capitalize the T&G in The Game for a reason. It is historically the greatest rivalry in sports. It got to be that because both schools are powerhouses who seemed to always be fighting it out for the B1G title & sometimes, the chance to be National Champs...I was raised in Columbus by people who were very, very religious about OSU football & it's traditions, so you can count me as a person who would rather beat a strong UM team so as to crush their dreams & spirits & make a win against them make OSU look all the better/stronger.

Do I root for them? - no. Was the Appy State win wonderful? - yes it was. It really was. But the most satifying OSU victory in recent history (IMO) against that team was 2006 when it was # 1 vs #2. Indiana & Purdue are rivals too...but nobody give a flying fart because one or both are usually not so good. If people got their wish & UM never won another game, the rivalry is over as we know it because there would no longer be anything at stake & I hope that the tradition of The Game is around for a long time, so I would prefer OSU beat them at their best. But don't get me wrong - I've yet to root for them...I never will.

In a perfect world Michigan would get just enough wins that a loss to OSU would knock them out of the Big 10 championship picture.

Not to be a smartass but those that are rooting for tsun to win out, do you guys get depressed or upset if tsun doesn't win a game?  I guess I just dont see the rivalry changing because I root for whoever plays tsun.. I know when Cooper only won 2 times in 13 yrs It didnt change how me and my Buckeye friends felt about the rivalry. We still had that hate for tsun and we still watch "The Game" every year.

This rivalry is different than all the other rivalries because of the hate and it will take more than 20 or 30 consecutive wins or loss's to damage it IMHO. (I think moving the game to earlier in the season would be more of a negative impact)

I wouldn't root for Michigan if they were playing themselves in a scrimmage..

So hail, what is your gut feeling on MSU this week?  You know that Dantonio has your number, just like Tressel did.  Can tsun stop the MSU D?  We all know Maxwell has no receivers so the MSU game plan is obvious.  I say it comes down to can DR be effective through the air.

Never root for them no matter what. Always think of Desmond Howard, Mike Hart and the recruits that will see blood on the field. They can lose every game. MSU will take their lunch money Saturday.

I don't buy into the conference pride thing very much.  I root for OSU to go HAM every week, M*chigan to lose every week, and am indifferent to the rest of the league.  The SEC groupthink cheering mentality is counterproductive.

I still dont get the mentality of hoping UM "loses every game". Some ppl still don't understand they ONLY reason they have such hatred towards UM and look forward to The Game so much is because of the success BOTH schools and how each one has taken turns ruining the others "dream season". If UM is constantly below .500 every year, whats the point of even caring about the game or the rivalry anymore? Heck at that point the IU and NW games would probably mean more than the UM game. Do you still think for a second that this would still be looked at as the #1 rivalry in sports if UM was always terrible? For this rivalry to mean anything to our fanbases and from a national perspective, BOTH schools need to have sustained success.

I'm not saying you should go out and buy a UM hoodie, but at the same time it's ok to not be mad when they win.

Just my two cents, now I will step off my horse.

Put me in the camp of hoping they go 0-12 every year. Gimme that sweet, sweet Schadenfreude.

I do not ever ROOT FOR tsun, but I do always want them to be undefeated when they play us. I enjoy the wailing and lamentation of their fans so much more when we yank the carpet of hope out from under their feet in their last regular season game.

How often in History has THE GAME really come down to 2 teams battling it out to go to the Rose Bowl or to win the B1G.  It seems to me there's been more history of the rivalry where one plays spoiler, but there have also been a lot of years where the game really didn't mean jack squat.  There have been stretches where one team isn't good and the game doesn't bring much relevance too.  So, I know in our minds 2006 is what the Rivalry SHOULD be, but the reality is, that situation has only happened 1 time. If one of the schools falls into a long stretch of mediocrity and the game suffers, shame on the fans.  Bama and Auburn is a huge rivalry despite one side being mostly irrelevant most years.  Texas and Oklahoma doesn't always match up two top 5 teams.  Do we really think that if one of the teams was mediocre that this game will fall into the ranks of Iowa or Illinois???? I just don't buy it.

I agree, the rivalry is quite intense when you have two elite teams battling it out, but it's just not reality.  Usually one team is going to be better heading into that game.  It's the years where Michigan upsets undefeated Ohio State or the couple of times JT spoiled a nice season for Michigan that really make the rivalry go.  That's what fuels the hate.

A good UM team always helps OSU.

No.  I will not root for them.  Ever. They are scum. They ruined the 1990's.  They have ugly uniforms.  Their coach is a star wars villain. Mike Hart. .They should fail at everything.  Recruiting. Playing. Coaching. Practicing.  So no I will not root for them.  Bad for them is good for us.  They deserve all the losses they can rack up.  Winningest program in history shit needs to go away.  Sweet, they were good before zippers and face masks were invented. BFD.  

I will not root for UM-but I would love to be in a position to ruin their postseason. So yes, I guess I kind of want them to win out.

I'm pretty sure OSU fans enjoyed the win in 2009 (5-6) in Ann Arbor quite a bit.  A lot more than when they played us last year when we were 9-2.

And again, if we are 9-2 in Columbus, the ticket to Indy with an opportunity to play in Pasadena, will have already been punched.

Cognitive Dissonance:

"...the term used in modern psychology to describe the state of holding two or more conflicting cognitions (e.g., ideas, beliefs, values, emotional reactions) simultaneously."

This is how I feel rooting for Michigan to win the rest of their games.  I want to face (and beat) a Michigan squad that's rolling and at the top of their game, it provides an awesome atmosphere and should be one Hell of a game.  Yet, I can't really "root" for them to win all their games, I'm especially hoping that ol' Little Brother uncorks a can of whoop ass on them in Ann Arbor, just for the benefit of my lulz-creation.

Therefore, I will root against Michigan in every game, whilst simultaneously assuaging my dissapointment by telling my self that every victory they achieve will only make The Game even better, and the victory that much greater if we can achieve it.

Hail is right!  We do not need a cocky bunch of shits coming in to Ohio Stadium with nothing to lose.  We need a broken AACC team and have the opportunity to finish them off.

@Hail,  Why in the hell is Detard still doing that stupid fucking eating motion after every touchdown?  He looks dumber than usual.  I hope Simon is using his dreds as a shammy at the end of the game.

@bodast67  Speaking of Desmond Howard's Heisman pose...One of these is a cartoonish character of a little girl...in the land-of-make-believe, and the other is Tinkerbelle!

@Doc

The question is, why are other people doing it now?  I'm pretty sure I saw Smith or Brown doing it on Saturday after one of their TDs against IU, and I know for sure that AJ Green did it a couple of weeks ago.  All I can say is I don't condone it, but he only does it after a TD so it's hard to get angry at him (as it occurs).  Now if he would've done it against Alabama when we were down 31, I would've hunted him down (or at least sent him a nasty gram in email).

Great points people, after all the rich rod years felt as good as those legendary lloyd carr-jim tressel wars right?  As much as you can say it is the same it just isn't.

2006 #1 vs #2. That is what The Game should be like every year. I dont specifically root for michigan and I dont get upset at all when they lose, but I'd take beating an undefeated michigan with national championship hopes over beating 3-9 helpless michigan any day. So it would be great beating michigan after winning out this year but if they lose a game or two it wont bother me at all.

@BT - although they only met as 1 vs. 2 once, and although The Game has not been the determining factor in who goes to the Rose Bowl lately, historically UM & OSU have met as undefeated teams many times. There was also a time when almost yearly, the winner did determine who went to the Rose Bowl...particularly the 60s & 70s. 

Would the rivalry suffer if one the 2 teams became irrelevent over the long term?? Ask Army/Navy, Harvard/Yale...still serious rivals to be sure...but it never really means anything does it? As for Auburn/Alabama, as recently as 2010 that game had NC implications which keeps it nationally relevant. Either way, I'll say this, I've never rooted for UM to win a single game, I simply like an OSU win against that team more when there's more riding on it...

The only time I root for Michigan is after they have beaten us, and are in their bowl game. Just so that loss makes us look a little better, so all of the 1990's