This writen by Bill Rabinowitz paints a different story than we previously thought. Hope we can get him.
http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/stories/2012/10/19/gameday/recru...
PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
•Football Schedule•Basketball Schedule•Forum•About•ContactThis writen by Bill Rabinowitz paints a different story than we previously thought. Hope we can get him.
http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/stories/2012/10/19/gameday/recru...
Yep that sux.
I've always been a little skeptical simply because he's never visitied. I thought a couple of times I heard he was coming and then never did or something come up etc. Weird to me that they have never been able to get him on campus.
Lets see, its still October and this thing has been a story for months. Still a long way to go and plenty of talent out there. I'd take any combination of Trey Johnson, Mitchell, possibly Kimbrell and that juco kid who supposedly is good at read and rec.
Looking at Grant and some of these current buckeye LB, I think I would lean more to a guy who can read and rec more than a physical freak. Grant is a physical freak but guess what, he can't diagnose a play to save his life. The traits that Katz, Laurinitis and Rolle shared was the leadership to read a play and make sure not only do they get into the proper position but that the rest of the D knows where to be as well. With guys like Shazier, Roby, Bryant this defense doesn't need a physical freak so much as a leader.
I like this Mitchell kid and would love to have him but right now I am less concerned about super talent and more about getting a good leader on the field who knows where to be. With the right angles and correct position, you don't need to have huge talent to make the play! We see what huge talent does when it is not in the right place to make the play, it looks U.G.L.Y.
Wow... So much for commiting at Gridiron Kings.
I was actually expecting the article to be a little worse then it was. I still think get him on campus and see what happens, plus Alex has a good feeling about this one, and so far Alex hasn't steered me wrong. We'll see what happens though, since I've been following this site and recruiting for the last two years, one thing I've definitely learned is expect the unexpected.
The big question is....How do you know which one is the guy that can read and recognize? We certainly thought one of the current freshmen was one of those guys. Or Grant. Why does it seem like it is so much more of a crapshoot these days? And according to this story Mitchell is still possible. Just not a lock like we thought a while back.
That sucks and I think this may change Alex's mind a bit on how much of a lock Mike is for OSU...
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I just want a LB and Mitchell was my favorite
Get him on campus and he's ours! A weekend with the scarlet and grey carpet treatment and a few one on ones with Urban and he will be singing a different tune. The thought of coming in as a freshman and starting for a team contending for a National Title has to be very appealing for young Mitchell.
I don't think that article was that bad and in fact seems to be pretty much what you'd expect. However, if he is really into the Buckeyes like he indicated early on then Urban can close him with a good visit. In fact I think he is all Buckeye if Meyer puts the full court press on and just gets him on campus.
This article didn't really provide any new info. Mike Farrell is good at what he does, but it's not new that Texas A&M and Oklahoma are in the picture. They have been in the running for quite some time. I honestly don't know if he ends up a Buckeye or not at this point. Obviously, we just have to get him on campus. And the key will be to not only sell him on OSU but also his dad. Distance could be an issue with bringing him to Columbus as it seems his family is very tight.
Farrell may have info that he is keeping to himself with respect to Mitchell and his family. They do not talk at all. If Farrell wants to continue getting info from Mitchell, letting out everything he knows would damage that pipeline. He seems to do things the right way and honoring the family seems appropriate. Farrell says "things have changed" and he would probably know as well as anyone.
Things have changed from the summer, which is what Farrell said in the article. Mitchell was head over heels for OSU in the summer and a "lock" for the Buckeyes, but time has passed and there are other schools involved. Now it will be harder for OSU to land Mitchell. None of that is new information.
with how quiet he has been, I can't really trust any report on him. Take it with a grain of salt man.
Yup, nothing really new here. A&M has been in the picture the entire time, along with Ohio State. Oklahoma is the only school that has really "popped up" since we first heard about Mitchell's interest in OSU. And they basically just replaced Florida State in his top three list.
I think really the only thing that has changed is exactly what Farrell said - it was a slam dunk for Ohio State during the summer, when Mitchell was at camps and such with other OSU recruits and basically said he wanted to commit to the Buckeyes. Now it has just been so long that other schools have recruited him and he's yet to visit Columbus. If he's really serious about Ohio State, he'll visit and more than likely commit - he's even said as much. If he doesn't end up liking the distance factor, I don't think we'll see Mitchell make a visit here.
He doesn't seem like a kid that wants or tries to string things along. I think he's just waiting for his chance to see the Ohio State program and Coach Meyer up close and personal, in order to validate his feelings.
"What we do in life echoes in eternity"
I heard Mike planned to visit tOSU in November, and that was directly from his mouth. Assuming that visit happens, I still feel pretty good about Mike.
@Tenn I agree completely. With no quotes from Mitchell, I'm not sure if this is really news that changes much. We know we need to get him to campus and that A&M and Okla are right there. Hopefully he comes up for The Game.
In no place did the article give any fact or testimony, i.e. Mitchell wasn't quoted as saying anything that might indicate we're not still right up there. Look at the title of the article - it's scary sounding! But the only essence of the article is that one recruiting expert's opinion is that OSU is no longer a lock.
Like TeennBuckeye19 said - nothing new here, same things we already knew. We still have to get him on campus and Urban has to woo him.
I'll even go so far as to say that Alex's recent post (don't know where) that he still feels that once he visits he's a Buckeye is still valid. Alex may chime in and say otherwise, but I didn't read anything that says he's not likely to be a Buckeye once he visits.
I haven't been sold on this kid being a lock for a while... I believe it is probably more his parents trying to convince him than anything. I'm sure they're dreading the nightmare of traveling to Ohio to watch him play, and trying to keep up with their other son playing basketball. It could be very hectic and stressful for them. If Urban can get him on campus, he will be a Buckeye.
Farrell is actually wrong more times than he is right, see Diggs, Neal. Also sometimes it seems as if Farrell has a grudge against OSU. The article itself tells us nothing new except that Farrell is overpaid. Mitchell's recruitment is going to depend on whether Meyer can sell OSU to the dad. Mitchell himself would have been a Buckeye a long time ago if not for the old man. That said it is clear that Mitchell can be influenced at least somewhat by his dad so we will have to wait and see on this one. Just the other day Mitchell named OSU as the leader and with a visit pending in Nov. I have to think this one will end up good for OSU as long as the visit takes place.
No actual quotes from Mitchell so we're supposed to take Rabinowitz' word for everything? I'll go ahead and trust Alex's intuition over anything that spawns from the Dispatch
I keep thinking about his little brother possibly going to and playing basketball at the same school as Mike. Unless Texas A&M or Oklahoma basketball improves dramatically, our chances look better from that standpoint too. I think he is the QB of their HS team though so a promise of a scholly for brother at that position could do it I guess. That's the fun of recruiting. It's like trying to pick lottery numbers.
Oklahoma did decent with Blake Griffin, so it's not like they're hopeless. They can win with the right talent.
I wonder if Daddy Mitchell is friends with Sal Anzalone....seems like they'd be related somehow.
oklahoma didnt do that well with someone like blake griffin and they had his bro 2 who wasnt bad. i dont even think they got to the sweet 16
mark may wins douchebag of the year... again
Joshy, I simply don't get the correlation between Mr. Mitchell and Mr. Anzalone. I think people were speculating and making Mike's Dad out to be something he is not. To my understanding, he simply encouraged Mike to actually visit a school before committing. That doesn't seem so awful to me...
Seriously, what's the problem with wanting to keep a kid close to home?
My mom thinks I'm too far away in Cbus, and Im 2 hours from home. If I would've told her I was taking one scholarship offers I got from Southern/Western schools, neither of my parents would've supported it. I don't get why people are crucifying the Mitchells for being a close knit family.
No offense, but this had NOTHING from Mitchell himself...all Farrell.....yes, A&M and OU worry me more now then a few months or even weeks back...still think with a visit Mitchell is a Buckeye and I have no reason to think that visit isn't happening
sticking to my guns on this and the info I have gotten from the OSU side...Mitchell is a Buckeye when it's all said and done
Couldn't agree more, Buck-I.8.
There's more to life than football, as many of us forget at times. Mitchell can go many, many places to school much closer to his hometown, family, and friends, and still succeed individually and as part of a team. He can still reach any of the goals he may have as far as making it to the next level.
Of course I hope he visits Columbus, and he, as well as his family, fall in love.
"What we do in life echoes in eternity"
He's more Kazenmoyer (sheer size and speed) he will blow people up...IMO we need a really sound, smart solid tackler like Hawk, whose 4.5 speed didn't hurt either. I know, I know, who doesn't need an AJ Hawk? Just saying that these big, physical freaks aren't usually the smartest and most sound as well.
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That's good news Alex. When you read this stuff, unless you talk to them directly as you do, one never knows. Just like the Anzalone & ND & Florida stuff out now. Do you think Farrell is credible or just making noise to stir interest? This info is what makes you guys the best!
@Buck-I.8 - I re-read through the posts on this thread and only saw one post that mentioned his dad was similar to Anzalones. That person had two downvotes for his comment. The rest were respectful. What "people are crucifying the Mitchells"?
The only thing thats obvious is, drama freaks these kids out. So, lets not spin this all out of control... et al Anzalone
@Lougroza not just that comment, but on twitter, other boards, other threads. People are talking about how he wanted to commit to OSU, but his dad made him slow it down, and they're saying it like it's a negative thing that a 17 year old's father is just being a dad.
Buck-I.8 - Gotcha, understood. Thought you were referencing this thread only.
That article was all speculation. Go Bucks!
Agree with the last paragraph. The sooner we can get him in, the sooner UFM can show him how much tOSU has to offer. Hope he makes it for The Game (or earlier.)
Nothing like dancing on the field in 02...
He aint coming??? On to the next one.. Him not coming to TOSU will not make or break this program hell I like Vonn Bell better anyway but thats just me...
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Godofwar, the article doesn't say Mike isn't coming to tOSU. It simply says A&M and Oklahoma are in the hunt, but he has yet to visit tOSU.
Alex:
"...still think with a visit Mitchell is a Buckeye and I have no reason to think that visit isn't happening".
I'm not trying to be an ass here in the least, but I think anyone who has been paying attention to this process has every reason to be skeptical specific to Mitchell visiting OSU. How many times has he said he and his father hope to be on campus the week of X? It seems like at least a few. Mitchell said, and not a recruiting expert ala Mike Farrell, but Mitchell himself said he was probably going to announce at Gridiron Kings... last summer. I'm not doubting / questioning your confidence in your information, I'm just saying that those us who aren't privy to that information have every reason to be leery about Mitchell. I'm also not knocking the kid at all. He's been very quiet for the most part and that's exactly what I'd encourage him to be if I were his father. I'd also strongly suggest to him that he visit all the schools on his list prior to comitting. I'm simply saying that I'm skeptical about Mitchell visiting, let alone comitting...
Listen, I could be completely wrong. What I can tell you guys is someone very close to what is going on inside the WHAC told me that they are still confident in getting Mitchell to be a Buckeye...yes the kid started talking at the Opening that he would come out here that following week and then make a choice, but he's just a kid...he went home and discussed with his parents AND the OSU staff, who both advised him a rush wasn't neccessary....on top of all this OSU commits are telling me they still expect Mitchell to end up in this class and they do talk to him.....
The Mitchells have never said oh we're coming X weekend and not shown up.....anybody who speculated a date was doing just that, speculating....he is saying mid-November is what he is targeting and it could end up being Michigan game which would be great...it could end up being pushed to December, but unless something unforseen happens (which it could) he will be visiting Ohio State....
Definitely proceed with caution---you have every reason to and Mitchell has not given us or any other fan base reason to proceed otherwise (he keeps it close to the vest), but know that from the OSU side of things, they feel good with where they are at and that's all I can go off
thanks for the info alex. i have confidence in urbs. just gotta get the mitchell clan here.
mark may wins douchebag of the year... again
Completely agree Alex thanks for the info
Alex, whats whac?
I give the kid props...He didn't commit right off the bat because of emotions and then decommit 2 weeks later to stick with that team for a couple months only to think about decommiting again...He's taking his time and making sure that his first choice is the right choice.
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My two cents-this kid has done nothing wrong-he hasn't "played the game", hasn't tweeted a new favorite every week, and hasn't done 2487 interviews to see his name in print. If he wants to stay out of the spotlight and be low key about he process, wants to take into consideration what works best for him academically, athletically, and socially, while realizing the impact on his family, and then be solid and excited in his commitment once he makes his decision, more power to him. I hope he does become a Buckeye, but that is because I think OSU is an absolutely fabulous school and community. And we could really, really, really use him.
Hope you are right Alex
Mitchell seems to have done everything the right way. It is bothersome when people commit, and still want to explore other options. I don't understand why they wouldn't just hold off on a commitment if they are not sure. Take the visits you want to take and then commit, not the other way around.
Isn't Farrell the one who claimed Stefon Diggs was all Buckeye
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