PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
FWIW: On ESPN Radio's Mike and Mike this morning, said Purdue beats Michig*n this Saturday and goes on to win the Big 10 Championship.
I was saying this a couple of weeks ago, or at least that they had a shot in our side of the division since we can't do it. Honestly I am rooting for them (except when we play them).
A Purdue v Northwestern Big10 Champ game would be the best option, IMO, since we can't be there. Though I won't be "Boilering up". If they panned the sidelines for celebrities at that game, who could there possibly be.... Glen Robinson, Bob Griese, Gene Keady?
Do you have a link for this?
Purdue will make it to Indy if:
1. They beat Michigan- They will have a huge up on cross divisional games unlike Wisconsin. I see Wisconsin winning 1 of 3 while the Boilermakers go 2 and 1.
2. Purdue beats Wisconsin- I don't think this will happen but if it does, you can sign them off to Indy. Even if it doesn't, I don't think Wisconsin will have a better overall record for the tie breaker to even matter.
3. Purdue holds the upper hand in suspended teams- I've got Purdue beating PSU but not OSU and Wisconsin losing to both. If Wisconsin wins their last two games of the season then they will go to the title game.
On the other side who goes to Indy depens on the following
1. How does teams like UM and Neb does against OSU- If all these teams lose to OSU then everything is fine but if one of these teams beast OSU, I've got them booked to go to the title game.
2. Can Northwestern knock off PSU- With a favorable cross division games against PSU, Purdue and Illinois can the Cardiac cats go 3-0
3. Will Iowa play the dark horse- I've got a good feeling that Iowa will prevent Michigan State from going, making this a three team race between Nebraska, Northwestern and Michigan
4. Can Northwestern do it again- If Northwestern beats Nebraska and #2 occurs I've got them going.....
5. Can Michigan win on the road- Michigan offense on the road is half of what it is at home. If Michigan loses on the road to Purdue, chances are they will lose a tiebreaker to Neb and lose to OSU going 5-3.
6. Gophers- Can Kill get a signature win over a program this year and play spoiler. I doubt this will happen but anything is possible if Gray comes back. Shotell just isn't the QB they need to pull of an upset.
Say I'm crazy now but if everything falls according to plan; Michigan, NW and Neb will all be 5-3. Michigan beats NW who beats Neb who beats Michigan. With a 5-3 tie their seasons will all come down to a tie breaker and how they do against the other Ledgens. By some string of luck Northwestern goes.
Purdue vs. Northwestern. Boilers win it all. Boiler up, hammer down.
***I'll come back to this after this weeked games are over but in order for this to work OSU, NW and Purdue need to all win to win on Saturday.
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just what I heard him say on his 5 min segment on Mike and Mike, as I was driving from Findlay to Lima. I don't do the I-Phone or Podcast stuff, so I don't have a link.
Here is the link.... http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=8456500
In addition, whoever wins the Mich-Purdue will be in Indy!
The last time Purdue beat us the next season we beat them like 45 to 0, hopefully that happens again
I think Purdue has a good chance to get to Indy this year. And no, Danny Hope, we won't get used to it. But it could happen in 2012.
Purdue hosts TSUN, right? I believe TSUN had them at home last year. Purdue is tough at Ross-Ade, and could easily stun TSUN. Purdue also gets Wisconsin at home. Would be interesting.
Class of 2010.
Clearly Purdue should be ineligible for any postseason championship games, due to the unfair emotional advantage that Danny Hope's mustache provides to that team.
"You win with people." - Woody Hayes
He said last week that Purdue will win the B1G. Old news.
I can see Danny Hope at a Village People concert in the 80's....dancing, doing the YMCA thing with his arms & just partying super hard.
The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.
Oh PUHHHH...LEASE. Really?
First of all, I'm heading up to the game at Purdue, so Michigan is not going to lose. In fact, Michigan will win by 13 or more and Denard is going to account for 5 scores.
Secondly, Northwestern is not going to win the Legends division.
Lastly, Michigan, Sparty, or Nebraska will represent the B1G in Pasadena
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
Purdue probably will win our side of the B1G. Wisconsin is not good. Let me repeat myself, WISCONSIN IS NOT GOOD. True they played Nebraska close, but as it was layed out in the Skully today, Nebraska doesn't play well on the road. That's the only game we can point to and say well Wisconsin played well against a good team. They've also played really bad against bad teams.
Purdue's one loss came on the road by 3 points to a very good Notre Dame team. Their toughest remaining game will be in Columbus as they have Michigan, Wisconsin, and Penn State at home this season. This division lays out pefectly for Purdue. They do have to travel to Illinois, Iowa, and Minnesota, but none of those games or venues are particularly intimidating.
Purdue by default, they should be proud.
I respect you and your posts enough that I hope you're joking when you said "A very good Notre Dame team." Michigan (who's not playing like a very good team) should've won by 3 scores.
I think it will come down to Purdue and Wisconsin in the leaders.
This turned out to be a pretty good prediction. Michigan won 44-13. Denard did not account for 5 TDs - only 1 passing TD and no rushing TDs - but he did rush for 235 yards!
Now that I write that, I don't know if Hail will be happy that he got the last laugh in this thread, or sad that he's being reminded of the cruelties of life-after-Denard.
cruelties of life-after-Denard.
cruelties of life-after-Denard.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Dennard would have at least Arm Punted that one instead... but I'm glad he taught his replacement how to throw a proper interception.
I miss Denard's presence, his electricity and his smile. I don't miss him as Michigan's QB. He had 39 interceptions and a handful of fumbles. You guys don't see it yet, but Michigan is better with Gardner at QB in a post-Rod Michigan offense.
I agree ND isn't great, but they proved on the field they are better than Michigan. In what universe can you watch your QB throw 5 punterceptions and think they should win by 3 scores? Notre Dame isn't great, but Michigan is worse.
Purdue will be a tough game for us..they have a pretty damn good D.
Didnt he predict Iowa to win the B1G last year?
"if irony were made of strawberries, we' d all be drinking a lot of smoothies right now."
Actually I'm pretty he sure picked us to win it last year
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Actually - Triv's right. He thought the team would 'rally around' Fickell & predicted us...
@Grosse I didn't mean we should've won despite the 6 turnovers, I meant we should've won the game period [without the unforced errors]. I think Michigan wins that game big 8 out of 10 times.
Nevermind, I think Herbstreit picked Iowa to win the Legends Division last year and for us to win the Leaders Division, with us winning the B1G Championship game.
Well should of won and winning are different though. Truthfully, with the 3 TO's last week against MSU, MSU should of won the game, but they didn't. All I know is Notre Dame is 3-0 against the B1G. 2 of the teams they beat were supposed to be about the best the B1G had to offer, and Purdue is starting to look like they are legit.
Do I think Notre Dame is the caliber of Bama? Absolutely not, do I think there are better than what Purdue will face the rest of the year in the B1G? Probably so.
@Hail yeah and if Braxton doesn't turn the ball over 3 times in MSU territory, we would've won that game by 2-3 scores and people would be praising OSU as a sure fire top 10 team. Turnovers are a part of the game, and Denard has shown he's prone to throw a pick or 4. Just like Braxton needs to learn to protect the ball better
@HAIL - Do you think Borges lets "Robinson be Robinson" from here on out? I guess the better question is, do you think a lot of his struggles are more execution-based or more because the scheme they're trying to put him in isn't maximizing his ability? You think that UM gets it going late, kind of like OSU in '04? I think the matchup with little brother will be pretty exciting, the home crowd should be rocking for that one. I'm on the fence with the defense, though, because I don't think they're going to face a good one (which they haven't really faced since 'Bama) again till they get to Northwestern and Nebraska.
C'mon man. You're usually a good poster, but sometimes it's hard to watch our own team objectively. I'll grant that ND looked pretty beatable in that game, but michigan couldn't beat them. I saw nothing that would make me think that michigan should've won even that one game, and certainly not 8/10. mich had a small advantage in total yards, but big deal. Total yards isn't the point. The argument that "we would've won if not for the mistakes" always rings hollow with me. It always sounds a lot like "if we didn't suck so much, we might be a little better." Denard is your QB, and he's always thrown questionable passes. Last year against ND he threw up some 50/50 balls that came down for you guys. This year they came down for the other guy.
The best player in that game was Manti Te'o, and he made the plays your star needs to make to make his team the better team. Denard? He threw four interceptions.
You guys are fun today. Yes, turnovers are part of the game and you can't assume that points would've wound up on the board if they didn't occur. All I know is that we controlled the game and even with the turnovers, we lost by 7. If we only turned the ball over 3 times instead of 6, you have to think that we'd be in a better position to win. I mean ND probably doesn't feel that they played a perfect game either, but when half of your possessions end in up in the other team's hands, you have almost zero chance to win. The best team doesn't always win and inferor teams often find ways to win.
@Triv I agree. I think OSU controlled that game. They stepped up when they had to after the turnovers. I personally feel that OSU MSU was more evenly matched than Michigan ND. If OSU turns the ball over 6 times and loses, how could you feel like that was their best effort?
They need to do something. Denard has no business being under center unless it's 3rd and 1. Borges tries to be too cute sometimes. His gameplan makes sense, but the players are having trouble executing some of the plays. Their excuse for the ND game was that Denard's timing is off with the WRs. Denard has never been a good passer under pressure, so it all depends the protection.
ND made mistakes as well. They turned the ball over at their own 10, but the difference was that when they turned it over their D stepped up, sacking michigan 2x and forcing a long FG that michigan missed. As far as "controlling" the game goes, well, with the game on the line ND took possession of the ball at their own 25 and drove down the field, eventually and mercifully, taking a knee at the michigan 30 to run out the clock. ND was the better team that day, and they won the game because of it.
It honestly would not surprise me as they will probably get there in our division and in one game anything can happen.
Herbstreit also said Miami would beat Kansas State a few weks ago... then the "U" went out and absorbed a 52 point beatdown. I'd love to see Purdue beat michigan, but just because Herbstreit thinks it'll happen doesn't make me confident that it will.
Remember that time Herbie thought Purdue was going to win the B1G and then they finished 3-5 in the conference and lost their bowl game 58-14 and then (probably) went winless in the B1G the following year?
I like Herbie, but that guy gets most of his predictions really wrong.
After these last few years I will never take the Purdue game for granted haha
Haa I love when people revive old threads like this!
It's kill or be killed.
Herby picked OSU to win the B1G and face Bama in the NCG. Just saying...
True, but on the plus side, he's since changed that to Oregon v Bama.
Maybe Herbie learned his lesson.
Herbie thinking to himself, "Dude, when you think too hard, pretending that you're a real analyst and handicapper, and the smoke starts coming into of the ears on your pretty face . . . you always end up making some stupid outlandish prediction. I'm not going to do that to myself anymore . . . Me not overthink it this time . . . Buckeyes v. Bama."
holy zombie thread batman
thanks for the laugh
Wait, this isn't about Bucksfan changing his icon? *que twilight zone music*
Hindsight is merciless. I like this idea of reviving old threads that end up making someone look bad due to the passage of time.
Oh wait, on second thought, given some of my predictions this season, I might not like this idea at all. Check that . . . old threads should be revived only if they embarrass Herbie or other media hacks, not RFR.
I liked how Hail picked everyone but Wisconsin to go to the Rose Bowl last year. I also love the big * next to them being B1G champions.
Bert shocked the world. What can I say? I would've picked Nebraska over Wiscy 100 times once the matchup was set. Nebraska was on a hot streak until they got torched in Indy.
That was back when people still believed Nebraska could play defense with the B1G. Since then, we've all seen that they can't.
What I'm even more amazed with is that Wisconsin hasn't skipped a beat since losing Bert. In some ways, they've actually improved. Meanwhile, in Arkansas...
Can we send all our bad coaches to the SEC? Maybe when Texas buys Nick Saban next year, we can send Brady Hoke to Alabama. And then when Muschamp gets canned when Florida realizes it isn't actually Urban Meyer's fault, maybe we can send Bo Pelini to UF. Then watch as the B1G dominates college football!
Ok, maybe I went a little too far with that...
Yeah and I thought Purdont had a chance at the B1G. HAHA! What was I thinking?
Herbstreit is a jinx. FSU is going to suffer from it again.
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