PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
•Football Schedule•Basketball Schedule•Forum•About•ContactRan across the fact that the PSU faithful are working on a way to disrupt the OSU offense by timing their clapping in the stands. No wonder everyone looks at them in wonder. Good luck with that.
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I imagine their whole stadium going full derp.
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
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I am being informed by PSU fans that their team is the most complete team in football, including the NFL. McGloin is greater than Brady.
Tomorrow
Had to edit the title just because it made me laugh.
@Squirrel Master I love your posts man, you bring great insight and information...but I'm an Autism researcher and Special Ed. Teacher, would you please edit your post?
^ its a quote from tropic thunder. It's a joke.
That's cool. i don't mean to be a thorn in anyone's side, thanks for the clarification
haha squirrel i was going to put that one just figured i'd get these posts ^ in response
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
Here's the clip for those unaware. You can skip to 1:29 if you want the quote, but it should be noted that Tropic Thunder was rated "R" and this clip IS NSFW:
216DotCom's post most certainly didn't warrant any downvotes. If he hasn't seen the movie, then I could see how that could come off as offensive especially to a special ed teacher. I Upvoted you to offset some of the unwarranted DV's
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
And in a new segment we like to call Ineffective Rabble Rousing in additon to clapping to disrupt the snap count, Penn st'ers will also carry out a plan to cheer when Ohio State scores a touchdown to quote "take the fun out of it" for Ohio State fans. More at 11
I know there's a game saturday, and my ass will be there.
i agree, i didnt downvote him, just informed him. also upvoted to help offset.
Another thread hijacked by political correctness.
(/sighs)
(/punches self in the junk)
Thanks Triv
Back to the original topic though, this is kind of smart. I'm surprised no one in the SEC was doing this earlier (maybe they did and I missed it).
Funny stuff guys ^^Clap, clap, clap, clap......oops, hope they aren't practicing....
I would assume if it becomes an issue that they'd just go to a full silent count rather than the clap and silent.
Does the offense really time itself based on the sound of the clap? Or does the center watch Miller's motion, and the line and receivers watch for the ball movement? If it was based on the actual audible sound it would seem kind of useless in a crowd-noise heavy environ.
You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy
The way I understand it, the center actually does the audible snap count at the line. The clap is for him to know Braxton is ready.
The only "clap" that is going to get disrupted at Beaver Stadium this week will be from thoughtful male students that use condoms in their tent city, aka the former "Paternoville".......
I'm pretty sure the clap is intended to be a visual clue only.
Lou, I think you're exactly right.
im assuming they will all ignore the clapping noises like they did with the ones coming from the shower room.
I was afraid someone would go there...MOO!
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/football/2012/10/game-clock-never-moved-off-of-3-secs-after-touchdown#comment-271818
Bob Downey, Jr. in Tropic Thunder was hilarious!
"You win with people." - Woody Hayes
Upvote to 216.
-The Aristocrats!
@Dotcom, My wife is a Genetic Counsellor and she has drilled it into me that the R word is an offensive word to use. Kind of like not using "that's gay" as a put down. So i understand your comment and actually expected it. I also expected the downvote(s) for the use.
but I had to stick with the actual phrase pertaining to the movie and thought even though the word is offensive, was appropriate for the topic at hand because really, if they are trying to do that, they are a bit MR! As if the center couldn't tell the sound of a clap from the stands to a clap from behind him. Totally different than the sound of a crowd creating so much white noise that the clap couldn't be heard.
I actually hope they try the clap thing as opposed to just making so much noise it is hard to hear it. I think it would actually mess up their defense more than OSU's offense.
I don't fret downvotes. I speak my mind and most of the time it doesn't warrant a downvote so the occassional ones don't bother me! but thanks for the upvotes guys! Makes me feel like this...
From what I have read, the clap is just a signal to the center to start the actual snap count, so it shouldn't have any effect, even if they can get it organized to begin with.
(And now once I have read up from the bottom, I see that somebody else has made the same comment about the snap count.)
I can see the headlines now,
"OSU GIVES THE CLAP IN THE BEAVER AND WALKS AWAY VICTORIOUS!"
Apparently I get downvoted because I disagree with downvoting 216? I guess we have a bunch of internet tough guys around here. I understand his want for the change as an autism researcher and special ed teacher. I coach for special olympics teams in a few different sports. But I also know that Triv's post was merely a joke.
-The Aristocrats!
@gobucks, I think you were downvoted, not by me, because of the jerk comment! not your stance about 216.
People are acting imature about the downvoting... I can only help upvoting so much though. SO I clicked on your name and upvoted your last 5 post.
@SM, I didn't mean everyone, just the jerk downvoters. Why downvote someone instead of debating with them? I think downvoting is cowardly. I try to upvote people that got a downvote I feel they didn't deserve. And why isn't your signature "Ain't that right FuzzyNuts?"
-The Aristocrats!
Don't freak out over downvotes. This is why I keep campaigning that people need to vote more in general. That way people will care less about a few downvotes. You get one, it's no big deal. If you get 20, maybe you should realize you might have done something against the policy. But either way, if everyone got upvotes all the time no one would be bothered by a few downvotes. VOTE MORE! Don't be so stingy with the upvotes
Also, we need a new policy where votes are like Fight Club. The first rule of votes is you don't talk about votes. Take it to the Forum under Site Topics or message a mod if you have a complaint, but in general, just realize sometimes people will downvote you for stupid stuff and you shouldn't worry about it. If it becomes a larger problem than a couple downvotes, like I said, take it to the Mods/Forum to figure it out.
“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.” - Woody
I don't know what's more stupiderer, this idea from the PSU fans or what this thread has turned into. Wait, nevermind. The clap idea.
PSU fan 1: I'm having one of those things....like a headache with pictures!
PSU fan 2: An idea?
PSU fan 1: Yeah!
Name that reference!
I thought The Clap could only be disrupted through the use of ceftriaxone. Kudos to PSU if they discover a new method. The marvels of modern medicine never cease!
You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy
I understand what you meant gobucks. That doesn't mean others did.
I decided to write a blog post about it. Take a look if you haven't already.
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/blogs/squirrel-master/despite-clear-concis...
Not sure why anyone cares about the up/down votes. Like almost all Internet points, they are worthless.
Hey I passed upvotes out for everyone..let's just all forget about the voting and talk football
@Ausmos
Epeen is totally important and is directly proportional to how awesome you are in real life!
Or is that inversely proportional? I always get them confused...
You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy
Dear Penn State fans, Players, and coaches,
Between Mauti, and then unknown DT who doesn't know the Guapo, and now this-is there a more unlikeable band of douchebags then Penn State? I get it though, you all had a really, really bad summer and wanted to play the victim card. You lost you beloved criminal of a coach, you lost the respect of every team and fan in the nation, you lost whatever your lost. So now you've won a few games (admittedly in convincing fashion) and your pride has returned. Its good to be a Penn State fan and player again because even though you can't kick a field goal and have beaten glorified JV squads, you're happy again. And that's awesome.
Enter big bad Ohio State. The team that, for decades now, you have tried to force some sort of hated rival status upon, despite the majority of OSU fans and players thinking you just aren't that big of a deal. They are undefeated, coming to your newly re engergized house so you start popping off at the mouth. You don't know who Carlos Hyde is, you call OSU's situation different because the kids on this roster (1 still to be exact) cheaters and your fans have the brilliant idea to disrupt the timing mechanism in OSU's offense....you are ready for victory.
And you know what? So is Urban Meyer. So are the Ohio State Buckeyes. Despite everything you as Penn State fans have wanted to say and do to change the fact that you're all a bunch of creepy, weird people who STILL worship a rapist enabler, this football season hasn't changed anything. So hold your heads up high! Take pride in your team. After all, they are winning football games. Enjoy it. Urban is coming to town soon to burn your pathetic, Moxie lead team to the ground. Enjoy watching your beloved heroes get cut to pieces in front of your very eyes. I know 'turning away' is the default mode for you guys any time something ugly or bad comes up but be sure to watch this Saturday as Ohio State reminds you exactly where you stand in this 'rivalry'.
Signed,
BrewstersMillions.
11W Member
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
@ausmos, if post didn't disapear because of it I think less people would care. Let's just upvote the heck outta stuff to make up for those misusing the system and make them irrelevent.
Back to the thread. Does anyone think this can be a problem? Never been to that stadium so do not know about the field noise.
Is this about to turn into another upvote party?
Every thread should be an upvote party!
You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy
@ Lougroza,
I've been there. It can be loud. When its rocking, it can be down right intimidating.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
@Lou, I've been there for a few games, and it gets really loud in there at times. The best way to shut them up is to get up by 3 scores and just shut down their offense, which is something that the good guys are very capable of doing. I think 3 consecutive pick 6s should do the trick. MOXIE!!!!
-The Aristocrats!
That's fine. We've got John Simon to distract Matt McGloin.
I think that the fans won't make a difference. The center knows the direction the clap is coming from, it is why we have two ears. Further, fans clap all the time. A handful of fans, trying to clap at the same time, at the right time just won't work.
I thought the clap wasn't really the signal to snap the ball, but the signal to start the countdown to snap. From what I read somewhere it's the center that dictates when the ball is snapped.
-The Aristocrats!
gobucks, you are correct. The issue would be if the fans fooled them to start the countdown before the QB is ready.
You are giving away all of the OSU secrets!
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
PSU fans have proven to me time and time again to be the least likeable fanbase I've ever come across.
Ooops . . . I was confused by the title of this post. I thought that maybe the world-class Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center was sending an army of doctors to Happy Valley this weekend to help fight yet another outbreak of Gonorrhea in that community - i.e., disrupt The Clap before it decimates Nittanyville.
Brewster: good comment at 1:31 pm. Adding to what you wrote, I've been wondering if Urbz has just a bit of extra motivation this weekend to demonstrate who is really the Coach of the Year? Not that Urbz needs an extra motivation - he brings his A game all the time. But maybe it would be just a little extra sweet to humble BOB?
What a disgrace, PSU fans taking advantage of "home field"?
Don't they realize every school in the country sits quietly on their hands while the opposing team has the ball and would never cheer loudly, wave floppy fingers, or ring cowbells?
Honestly I am not really sure how they would pull it off. If they clap with him, then it will be one really loud clap. If they clap at random times then it won't sound like Braxton clapping and no one will be confused. If they just clap in unison a lot of times it will be obvious whose claps are whose. Their best bet is to just be really loud to make it hard to hear the clap and therefore hard to hear the count by the center. I am pretty sure this has been done in some loud and hostile environments and hasn't been a big issue so I am not too concerned.
However if I am them, I see no reason not to try to get an advantage, that's what playing at home is all about. And maybe if they are busy clapping they won't throw piss at our band...
well also not to mention Braxton doesn't actually clap his hands each time he makes the motion. Sometimes he fakes the clap hoping to get someone offsides or disrupt the snap count so the D can't hone in on it.
And the fact of the matter is that everyone would have to clap at slightly different times (because there are so many people in a big area, and with who knows what kind of acoustics) nanoseconds apart for all of the sound waves to arrive at a specific point at a specific time. Is there an app for that?
@bukfan
I don't think that it's so much people criticizing them for making noise...rather this is just really really dumb. How are they going to coordinate everyone to clap at the same time first of all. Secondly, I think there's a pretty big distinction of a clap coming from 5 yards directly behind you and an echo of a clap coming from hundreds of feet away. Third of all the clap itself is just an indication to the center that the QB is ready. Once he sees or hears the clap the center then makes the snap call at the line. Lastly, just being normally loud would be much more distracting and make things harder than trying to simulate a clap that is nothing more than an indication to the center that the QB is ready to start the actual count. Even if it was effective all it would take is just switching the pre-count indicator from a clap to the QB reaching down to his knee like a lot of teams do.
I'm pretty sure the center will be able to tell the difference between Miller/Guiton clapping right behind him compared to thousands of students clapping really far away from him...
This idea is a huge stretch and I think it's just going to make them look kind of stupid rather than even coming close to actually working. It would be much more effective to just be as loud as possible, but even then they could easily just switch to something else besides a clap to signal.
This is as much of a stretch as Ohio State trying to color coordinate the stadium based on section numbers for whatever game that was this season....as if the thousands of second hand ticket purchasers are going to base their ticket purchase on the color of their shirt that day.
Penn State's Beaver has Clap
Squirrel Master beat me to it, but a man can try!
@Bolt, did you catch any of the IOWA/PSU game? Iowa fans pulled it off and it looked pretty cool on TV. Certainly didn't affect the game, though.
Ya, I'm not mad for them being loud. Its within their right. I'm mad at their rediscovered arrogance, the notion that this will have any bearing on the game, and at their over all level of hero worship for Michael Mauti, who by my estimation is that dude in high school who drove the raddest car, had the hottest chicks, beat up all the nerds and then at the 10 year reunion wore his letterman jacket and was plus 60 pounds.
Of course, his moment in the sun was a little beyond high school but the larger point stands. PSU fans love them some D-Bags.
I hope OSU beats them by eleventy gabillion points, but I'll settle for Matt McGloin peeling himself off of the turf 20-25 times.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
Man I really wish I could go to this game to witness the stupidity of them attempting to do this
I'm pretty sure thousands of fans screaming their heads off is more distracting to the offensive line and snap count than trying to fake a clap that doesn't even signify the start of the play, espcially in a place as loud as Beaver Stadium. If they actually manage to make it halfway convincing (which they won't), they'd probably end up confusing their defense more than OSU's offensive line.
Yes it could end up just being one big circle jerk of stupidity.
Since we're on the subject, did anyone notice that Kenny G's clap was elongated, and he faked a lot of his claps (definitely a higher proportion than Braxton)? Kenny's clap almost looked like he was attempting to lift off the ground or swim or something (lots of elbow bend). Braxton may be the loudest clapper in America though.
This is so freaking stupid it just makes me laugh. Do these fans actually think that Linsley is going to be confused by claps from hundreds of feet away. Something tells me he will be able to discern a clap from 3 yards behind him quite easily. Unless the defense is clapping on the field I don't think it will have one single iota of importance. Knock yourselves out goons.
vacuuming sucks
@Earle
I didn't see that...however something like that would be infinitely harder at an Ohio State game. We can't even pull off a whiteout/sea of scarlet or whatever. it's a bigger stadium in a bigger city with many more second hand ticket sales. That's essentially what kills it dead on the spot at Ohio Stadium. Definitely not saying it wouldn't be awesome if pulled off though.
Can this weeks poster read -- "GIVE THE BEAVER THE CLAP" ?
"You're pissed because we went after a committed guy? Guess what, we got 9 guys who better go do it again," said Meyer. "Do it a little harder next time."
@ Pharmbuck Something tells me you got the Rx for what ails the beaver.... clap. lol.
This just says to me that those who came up with the clap do not feel good about their team's chances against OSU-thus the need to "help" BOB and Co.
this is so gay
Just another reason that Pen moves up one notch on the list of teams I despise. Move over Florida.
An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches