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Yes NG. Very thick there. Sorry.

I don't think it was your intention but there are some around these parts convinced of the very scenario I laid out. I was having some fun at their expense.

When you have the biggest fanbase and you are successfull in multiple sports people are going to hate on ya.  The hate breeds trolls.  End of Story.  Take it as a back handed compliment and move on.  Just watch the BTN and ignore espn.

IRT to some of the posts in this thread: even though certainly the anti-OSU ESPN thing can be exaggerated at times, I watched the ESPNU coverage NGBuck is talking about, and I've also watched the coverage on BTN today, and it's almost funny how differently ESPN covers OSU compared to BTN.

ESPN's comments on Braxton: being that it was a head injury, they need to sit him for at least another week, if not two. I worry they're rushing him into this, concussions need to be approached much more seriously.

BTN: being that it was only whiplash/a sore neck, it's still amazing that he's back this week. But you know OSU has taken all the precautions and he won't be out there unless it's safe for him.

It really is funny at times that ESPN's coverage of OSU DOES always seem skeptical/cynical, whereas w/BTN they seem to be willing to give OSU the benefit of the doubt. This happens over and over again. Doesn't bother me one way or another, but it is an obvious difference. A bit reminiscent of the Fox vs. CNN political coverage. I will say though, ESPN has given us a LOT more positive coverage since Urban took over, so that's one good thing.

I just flipped to espn2 for a second and scrolling at the bottom said "Miller (concussion) and Guiton both expected to start Saturday " really?

ESPN=Clown show

Watched this as well and was fairly confused as to why the older guy went into an explanation on brain damage and basically said his parents and coaches should not allow him to play.  For a concussion that he is now symptom-free of.  No idea as to half of what they were saying.

Good news? They were talking about OSU on a BCS show, which OSU is not a part of this year.

NGBuck: good question. Maybe the same individual who downvoted me. Although, in my case, I probably deserved it.

He looked really wobbly after the now infamous tackle.  I can see how analysts and fan bases, in an effort to belittle things they are jealous of, would scream foul play.  Here's to the best damn hospital in the land, I know they would never compromise their ethics, not even for a Buckeye.

Its amazing how narrow minded people can be. There are a lot more injuries that can happen to the head/neck area other than concussions. How can they let people go on the air and just make shit up like this. Braxton was cleared of concussion symptoms. I guess nobody cares about journalistic integrity anymore. Just run your mouth about things you have no information on and throw it on the air.

It was Dan Hawkins on ESPNU's "The Experts" that said Miller should sit out 2 games. Everyone else on the show pretty much agreed and inferred Miller had a concussion based on the fact that they were dumb enough to cheat concussion tests when they played years ago. Miller didn't just pass these tests, but he also had imaging tests to further rule out any damage.

For all of those TV analysts out there who are saying how long he should sit (even if he did have a concussion)...

Based on guidelines from the Colorado Medical Society, American Academy of Neurology, and Cantu, unless the concussion is quite severe (with extended loss of consciousness and amnesia), then the consensus is that he can return to play if he's been asymptomatic for a week.  That's why they're checking every day.  I assume they'll keep checking every day this week, and if a symptom were to show up, then he would not play against Penn State.

If I recall, this happened with Nate Williams a few weeks back.  Staff said he suffered a concussion, originally said they expected him to be okay for next game.  Later that week, they said it's not gotten better (meaning he still had symptoms), therefore he sat that week (I think against Indiana).

As far as fudging baseline cognitive testing.... it does happen unfortunately.  Personally know a guy who intentionally bombed the baseline test.  Ironically, he got a concussion that season and his plan worked to perfection.  Said he did BETTER the second time around, even with a concussion.  And was cleared to play...

As Hodge said in so many words, I think the fact that OSU handled it correctly is the reason why ESPN and the media took notice---plus a QB is higher profile than a DE.  The replay of Braxton hobbling into the ambulance has been shown a lot more than the Gholston's helmet-to-helmet was.  When a player is carted off the field, they get more attention.  Since Gholston walked to the sideline and returned two plays later, it didn't garner as much national media attention.

Of course, any one who watched the MSU/OSU game knows the Gholston hit and situation appeared to be much worse.  Just my two cents, but I definitely don't see this particular story as anything close to a conspiracy.

Clown question, bro.

Completely agree about those who questions his toughness Scott.  That pisses me off so much.  I never played football either, but I've never put in the kind of work any of these kids do to get ready for the season and to keep playing.  Have to be pretty tough just to get through all the conditioning and workouts and practices.

Off the subject, but speaking of Dan Hawkins, this is a classic from his woeful Colorado days: