Eleven Warriors

I'm glad Urban's standards are higher than the downvoters abusing the system.

What made your comment all troll-tastic was the demand to win a NC this year in order to be sated. You know as well as everyone else on these boards of the impossibility of that, yet you assert that you will continue to bash the team until it happens. 

Not exactly a well-reasoned argument.

@Urban - Great Analogy. - I'll take the 8 ugly women and the 8 ugly wins everytime!

@OSU07 - They stepped up as a team when it counted and that's all that matters. I've been critical of the D but they saved our bacon today. Kenny Guiton wins the gameball! 

Go Bucs!

It was ugly but a win! I think the offense was a lil slow today but we did get the W! Maybe we should make people wait to start threads till after the game is over because I do kinda agree people do open threads about the game or how bad it's going a lil early (like the game is still going), so I'll kinda agree that some of the haters start early with the BS . We just have to except we win ugly(they all can't be dimes...feel me). 

I am tired of seeing people say the season is lost if we lose one game or were just going downhill. Its a new system with a new coach with a soph. qb and a coach who isnt even playing with his recruits. Ohio State has many flaws which will be worked out once Meyer really gets up and running. Being 8-0 or even if we were 7-1, every Ohio State fan should be praising the wins we have even though they may not come in the best of fashions. A WIN IS A DAMN WIN, whether it be a blowout or by one point.  Things will be worked out in the end, trust in the URBS!

We don't *have* to look good this year because of the circumstances.  Just win.  8-0.

you're just a buzzkill man.

If you are in the "a win is a win" group I hear ya!  I think others somehow think we accept being bad.  No we don't, but I'd rather enjoy the season than stress over the things I can't control.  I think WE ALL realize we are an average team (with potential) but we have way too many issues to be elite.  I already stress over family and work issues and college football is my escape from reality so I am not going to stress over the fact that we are 8-0 no matter how ugly we seem to look getting there.  I will be shocked if we win out, but let's enjoy today because who know what the future holds.

@Maceyko and just because we think OSU still has a bad team right now doesn't mean we are not happy with a win. So when people complain that we are not happy with a win, they are just as wrong as you say we are by saying you are accepting being bad. We just don't start threads chastising you...

We are not the coach.  Enjoy it, already.

So glad we won, but watching Purdue run the same screen pass over and over again successfully was very brutal....

Omg, not this again. So tired of this. Look-

1) After the way that win was gutted out, any OSU fan should really only feel two things at this moment- elation for the win and concern for Braxton Miller.

2) That said, it is not "hate" to point out weaknesses and deficiencies in the team following a win or even eight wins. No team is perfect. Adults who have played sports understand that the way to get better is frank and honest conversation about the weaknesses, how to address them or, if they can't be addressed with existing personnel, how to mask them. There is nothing wrong with evaluating our defense as very poor, critiquing Braxton's accuracy or frequent misreads, or discussing wether our continued defensive deficiencies indicate the need for a coaching change. This is what adults do. Only children run around beating their chests and chanting 8-0.

3) Point 2 not withstanding, there are some comments that serve no purpose and come close to just hate for the sake of hate. Saying OSU would lose to everybody in the SEC, or that we're really the fortieth best team in America serves no purpose. It is not provable, does not advance the conversation in terms of identifying specific weaknesses and discussing possible ways to combat them, and seems overall just kind of mean spirited.

I am going to return to my elated state now, but tomorrow I will of course discuss specific issues with this team, why they exist, and what people think we could do differently to improve. None of that is hate. I am far more tired of the immaturity of calling every criticism "hate" than I am of the immaturity of just making denigrating comments without  any real discussion of football weaknesses and potential cures.

we arent a good or great team, thats true, but we are 8-0 and urban still coaching tressels players, not his so much. just wait til urban get his 3rd class of recruits in here. for now transition year and 8-0, what do the knee jerks fans want?

Steensen, the problem is not that people refuse to believe this team is bad.  Everyone is well aware of flaws of this team.  The problem is the need for people to be a turd in the punchbowl everyweek instead of being happy about a win.  I said it in a blog post, there were moments today that I was furious.  Hell I even gave up on the game.  Still had it on but chalked up the loss and started messing around online and ignoring what was going on.  

We all know the limitations of this team and that there are plenty of teams who would beat this team.  Where people's frustrations come in is where people constantly talk about how bad this team sucks, and how we should realized that etc.  WE DO REALIZE IT, we just don't need to hear it day after day.  Would you rather them be 0-8?

Both sides are starting threads back and forth saying how the other side has to "Realize" something. The issue is that it is 1 (we suck, realize it) to 10 (why can't you just be happy) threads. The issue is that no one who says the team isn't good is calling the others "not real fans" or "haters." You say that, someone is going to respond.

EDIT: Further they aren't abusing the downvoting system in response...

i do wonder how many fans gave up hope at 22-14, with less than a minute to go? honestly? 50% 70 % ?

Yeah, I've been saying all week that if Urban Meyer posted on 11W, he'd never get a thumbs up.

Comparing this team to the 2002 team is hilarious at best.  Quit trolling your own fans,  OSUASU.

^^ 3 of the last four years we have struggled with Purdue. In those years, we have won a Rose Bowl, a Sugar Bowl*, had a 6-7 season, and are currently 8-0. Three of four years we have struggled to beat Purdue, and we have only one bad season to show for it. 

For all of you moaning about struggling against Purdue I have 2 words:

Holy Buckeye!

Can't disagree with your arguments, Brewester--well said.

To add on, I hate the use of the word hater. If it even is a word.  If someone calls for a coach to get fired, I don't need to stoop to calling them a 'hater' just because I disagree with them. I certainly don't need to create a post to say "neener-neener" to other Ohio State fans because OSU won. Enjoy the win (I sure as heck did), but I didn't feel the need to rub fellow Buckeye fans' faces in it. That's where you all don't see that you're wrong on both sides. You shouldn't need Ohio State to win or lose or win in a certain way just so you can say you were right. And if you're glad the site wasn't here in 2002 maybe you should stick to staff articles and refrain from the comments section. Other than that you can be concerned/worried or not, and still be happy even if you are concerned, but still just be a fan. I'll be a fan right with you, even if we don't have the same opinions.

Here's how I view the situation...we're 8-0 and we all agree we have a TON of things to correct and improve. I'd say that's a great spot to be in. Props to Kenny G on being prepared and not let that INT shake his confidence. That's impressive for any player let alone a backup. Nice job man. 

Oh yeah, btw, before I hear the 'we're just conducting ourselves as true fans and we should be allowed to critique the team'....I wanna say if you came on here and first congratulated the players and coaches for their effort, and truly endeavored to point out what's right..maybe your 'critique' would be better received. Unfortunately for most of you, the negativity is the first thing you post after a win..which makes you a spoiled fan with very unrealistic expectations.

THANK GOD we are not eligible for a bowl game. You guys are happy with this win? seriously? You guys praising this win are the same ones who would be at the bottom of a barrel after we got trounced by an SEC team for the way we played PURDUE!!!!!!!!! Are you kidding me! PURDUE!!!!!! We needed every second of the game to win and granted we won and im happy with the thriller of the victory we got but you guys are smoking something to be estatic with this. something is seriously wrong with you if your saying "welp we are 8-0, nothing is wrong"

Nobody is saying there isn't anything wrong, nobody is saying we don't have stuff to work on.

Seriously, you can't just enjoy a win?

BTW, Urban F Meyer was plenty pleased afterwards, he had the biggest grin I've seen yet after a win. So yeah, if he's happy with winning today I guess I am as well.

I honestly don't think all the other undefeated teams would beat Ohio State.  UC, UofL, and Ohio are very beatable. 

Definitely LOTS of room for improvement, especially on defense.  However, this team is finding ways to win every week, and last year it was the opposite.  Hope we finish this year strong and continue to build something great.  The only time I say "we suck" is when we give up big plays on special teams and when the same offensive play works on our D more than twice.  But overall, we are much improved. Gotta look at the positive.