Arkansas recruiting site is reporting Timmons is making his official this weekend and promoting the possibility Mora might be their new coach. The difference between their recruit site and this one is the total respect they have for him. Their lead guru compares Timmons game to Felix Jones meaning he doesnt bother with the side to side movements but aims to outrun everyone to the opening and then make his cut. Something I did not know that this site reported was that his 60 carries for 1400 yds would have been #1 in the nation but it didnt have quite enough carries to qualify. If Meyer wants him I hope they make that call now.
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It has sounded like Timmons is still willing to wait for an OSU offer, but if Arkansas offers I certainly wouldn't blame the guy for going there. Honestly Timmons's production is insane for the limited amount of carries he receives. Now I have no idea why Mora would leave UCLA to go to Arkansas, that would be stupid if you ask me.
I agree with William about Mora leaving UCLA for Arkansas. I think Charlie Strong from Louisville is a more logical assumption.
Good for him. Arkansas needs an offense.
In other news, worshipping the ground he walks on is not the same as "having respect" for a kid. I'd say we all respect him here, it's just a little more pragmatic.
Timmons got an offer from Arkansas when Petrino was coach back in Feb. he has many more offers as well many that sites have not listed so he has had a lot of patience with the dream of being a Buckeye. I dont get the Mora talk either unless Ark is home to him (Meyer)?
According to Wiki, Mora was born in LA. Strong was born in Arkansas and played at Central Arkansas.
Good for him. Wherever he signs i just hope its soon so i dont have to keep seeing these updates.
Buck I 8 let me respond by maybe adding the word regard. They view him as the #1 playmaker in this class. I just happen to agree and I want my Buckeyes to get him! I am on this mission to try and get him signed. Go to Hudl and look at 2011 under his name to view or go to Franklin County Hudl to see this years games. If you do he wears jersey #5.
Let me further go on to say I do worship FOOTBALL! I came from a small Ohio town with a population of 14000. Every Friday night there would be 4000 in attendance and on games with the rival it would be more like 7000 (standing room only). Monday mornings at every break or lunchtime the talk would be all Football. Living in the beautiful state of Ky now these folks have that same passion but its with basketball. Excuse me but since finding this site I have used it as my release for my observations.
Bassplayer I agree Strong would make more sense. In that case they would probably end up with Quick and Timmons.
I mean he looks nice and everything but I'd much much rather have both Ezekiel Elliott and Jalin Marshall who are likely going to play the same position as Timmons. I'd rather see us focus elsewhere. Finding more of a true wide receiver to play on the outside. I wouldn't be mad if we got him but if we really really wanted him he'd probably be a Buckeye right now.
Waycracken is Timmons the type of person who wouldn't mind decommiting from somewhere? Like giving his verbal to Arkansas incase his OSU offer doesnt come, but if it does would he consider flipping? Seems like the kids best bet at this time if he wants to be a Buckeye but is worried about losing his spot elsewhere. Really hope we get Timmons if Quick goes to Louisville.
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
If Charlie Strong goes to Arkansas I believe Quick is a Buckeye... I'd say the kid can commit to Arkansas and Meyer flip him at the last minute. Not too worried about this. I'd like to see us go hard for Jalen Hurd here in TN. He has 1900 yards and I believe 19 TD's after 5 games. Kid is sick!
I do not know the answer to that. If he would flip I would think it would only be for a valid reason like a change in coach that doesnt match styles of play. IMO I would think he is a person that his word would be bonding.
Wow Hurds numbers are impressive
Strong is going to Arkansas. Reports are out that he has already spoken with Arkansas.
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Honestly I don't get it why people crack on Waycrackin. (Pardon the Pun) I truly believe that we should have taken Timmons over Taivon Jacobs all day everyday and twice on Sunday. Waycrackin I come to this board to hear recruiting updates and that is what you are providing. What I don't come to hear is a bunch of dbags arguing with other Buckeye fans because their panties are in a bunch. Keep up the updates WC you have at least one guy that reads them every time.
I believe both Timmons and Jacobs took part in a camp at tOSU, and the offer went out to Jacobs. Personally, I will trust the staff's evaluation. I mean zero disrespect to Timmons.
I part company with Waycracken on what is worthy of worship, but can't begin to understand why anyone would begrudge promotion of a good athlete. The kid can flat play, and Waycracken wants him to be a Buckeye. I agree, and Buckshot's right, too - Timmons over Jacobs any day.
Folks exchange jabs with each other and mouth off from the safety of a console in a way that would lose them a lot of friends if done in person. Pity.
I have paid attention to Timmons because of Waycrakens efforts. The kid is a bad ass (Timmons). I'll say this - I hope he get's an offer soon& I hope he becomes a Buckeye.
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I think I may be the only person that's noticed that.
Reports that have been leaked by UK websites. Believe it when it happens. Till then, Strong is about to bring his team to a BCS bowl. Not sure why anyone would want to leave a team that is about to start dominating a league for that mess down in Arkansas in the same division as Bama and LSU. Might as well commit suicide!
Not to mention Strong going to Central Arkansas does not make him a Razorback fan. Its not like Urban and OSU. Strong might not be a fan of Arkansas at all.
well if timmons isnt welcomed at the osu, then i hope he commits to a team outside of the big ten. maybe he will help a SEC team beat up on the big ten.
I would not discount Cincinnati beating Louisville
Obviously there's a reason that Timmons is a Plan B WR and he goes somewhere else then so be it. I trust the staff to get the players to fit the system.
i am with you on that buckeye in sec, maybe he will come back and bite the big ten in the rear end would love that
I don't know why people seem down on Jacobs. I would take him over Timmons. Jacobs is just as fast, if not faster, and explosive on offense as Timmons. He also is a very good defensive back, so he provides the flexibility to play on either side. Not to mention the staff obviously prefers him over Timmons, and I trust them more than anyone on here.
Timmons IS faster and keeping his speed with the additonal weight. If he was 180 in summer my guess he is about 6' 190 now. Arkansas is gonna be happy
Even if Timmons is taking an official to Arkansas, there's no reason to believe he will be commiting any time soon. Heck, if I were him I wouldn't commit there till they figure out who will definitely be their next head coach. That entire staff could be gone by next year. Other than seeing the school and taking in a game day atmostphere, I'm not sure what a kid could get out of visiting right now.
If I were him I would continue to wait and explore all my options, including the chance of getting an OSU offer.
I hope that is what he does Tenn but they are really showing him the love.
I too like Timmons as well, and its because of Waycracken who first brought him to my attention. I was a fan of T.Jacobs that was my guy when I first watched his highlights, and low, and behold he has committed. I don't care what the level of competition he plays out he is putting up INSANE stats as he should because he he the best player on the field. If Timmons committed today. I would be ecstatic, but right now I really want Quick in this class.
Timmons would get shut down if he played in the GCL.
I sense this thread's now gonna turn into a discussion about the GCL...
In the end, I'm a fan of speed. I don't care how big the WR's are. Look at Oregon... I might be wrong but they don't have any huge receivers and they put up plenty of points. As long as the WR can get open and catch the ball then take off and leave the defense... I don't care who we get, but obviously the staff has their eyes set on certain WR's.
Waycraken, I agree Cincinnati will give Louisville a fight but I don't see Cincinnati having less loses than Louisville in the conference. That QB they have is electric but shut him down and Cincinnati will lose.
I do think Louisville will beat Cincinnati! Bridgewater is playing unreal right now. I actually think he is a much better passer than Braxton. But we haven't seen how Bridgewater reacts when Louisville is down.
Off topic but, greatest thing that not a lot of people recognize about Braxton is when his back is against the wall, he will make plays. He already has 3 come from behind winning drives in his young career. That to me is impressive. Barkley might be the best frontrunner QB but I don't think he is very good when his team is down.
As long as we get 2 of Quick, Gibson, North, or Timmons ill be happy
Waycraken, didn't you say Timmons was going to hold off until he found out if he will get an offer from the Buckeyes?
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^ agree
I agree with Buckeyes125...
Timmons won the Kentucky AA State Title in the 100m with a time that wouldn't even win the GCL in most years.
I don't mind talking about a kid but this kid gets a thread a week and he doesn't have a commitable offer. Can we maybe consolidate to where there is 1 thread on a potential.
I haven't watched any of the above mentioned players play honestly, as I don't often watch high school football. If the staff doesn't want Timmons then I wish him luck wherever he ends up
They don't want him, he's a backup plan at this point with Larue's offer. Bring on Gibson, Quick, and North.
Humble. Do you even know his best time is 10.3 and last year he ran few events. He was only .1 seconds off Tyson Gays numbers as a sophmore.
Waycraken, Humble is actually mocking those that said Timmons couldn't make it in the GCL.
@Urbz... How many of Gibson, Quick, North, Larue are they hoping to land?
Sorry I misread that. Just got back from AZ and only glanced.
Buckeye125 My feeling at that time is that he would especially after Coach Horton called his mom to ensure her. But I can only imagine how long they can expect him to wait and how long he is willing.
Actually, he could have beaten American Somoa's 100m rep in the world championships. Though GCL is pretty much way better quality athletes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpjigCffIX8
(preface: damn you William! I was having fun)
Now to get serious... Waycraken... I follow high school track and field closely. Ryan Timmons has not run the 100m dash in 10.3. He may have been clocked in at that time at some pissant meet without FAT (fully automated timing), but in talking with some coaches, I can tell you that the guy's best FAT times are in the 10.7-10.8 range, which is good, but places him only about kneck and kneck with DeVier Posey (/GCL'd) and gets him smoked out by Brandon Saine.
I'm not calling you a liar, but if a kid ran 10.3 within 100 miles of Cincinnati, I'm pretty sure I would have heard about it within a few hours. In what meet did he allegedly run this 10.3?
I was told by a school official he had a wind aided 10.3. He has a FAT time his sophmore year at Scott County of 10.61. I agree about Saine but for some reason Saine never showed it in football. Was it because of the system?
Yeah I think so... I think Saine could have flourished in Urban's system.
Hmmm, still skeptical about your 10.61. It's just hard to believe he could take nearly a full quarter second backward from 10.61 to 10.84 at that age (though I have seen it happen). As my old track coach used to say, "You're only as fast as your last race". This is so true. His best FAT time last year was 10.84. That's solid. But OSU has probably three dozen guys on the team right now that could run that (especially if they did a few weeks of track-style speed work).
Also, I think Saine's lack of production at OSU had to do with the fact that Eric Lichter was a very outdated strength and conditioning coach. Almost every single skill position player that trained under him got slower by the time they graduated. Honestly ask yourself this: are Ted Ginn's lateral movements and 20 yard bursts as quick as they were when he was a freshman or sophomore (just watch video)? Did you know Malcolm Jenkins ran a 4.53 at the combine? Yeah, he ran a 4.43 in high school. Boom Herron in high school? 4.52. At the combine? 4.66.
I know Indy is a slow, field turf surface, but most of these guys were clocked on similar surfaces in high school. Not only that, why is it that only the OSU guys were never clocking times even close to their high school output while every other player at teh combine was?
Because Eric Lichter was not a good S&C coach.
What about All the guys with fast combine times? AJ Hawk, Gholston, Chekwa, Pryor, etc. I think you are being a little bit to extreme on saying Litcher wasn't a good coach. You have to look at both sides of the spectrum..a lot guys ran fast at the combine and alot of guys didn't.
Look at alot of Former Florida players. They didn't all run blazing times at the combine. Does that mean Mickey isn't a great coach?
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Saine would have probably done worse in this system because he lacked agility and east-west quickness. He was very fast running north/south.
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BuckeyeJason, Chekwa and Pryor were athletic freaks coming out of high school, they both ran in the 4.3s already. Chekwa ran track at OSU as well. If Lichter were such a great strenght coach, why is it that the players raved about the dificulty and ensuing results of Marotti's workouts?
People raved about Litchers workouts as well, I remember reading it every year it seemed. Im not saying he was the best in the country or anything, I just think people like to point fingers too much and blame the old staff for everything.."Litcher wasnt good, Tressel wasn't good, Heacock was a bum" etc.
My maint point was that others players ran fast, while others ran slower. Same thing happened at Florida.
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B.Saine just wasn't a good football player. Simple as that.
What William said... and to add to that, 1) Pryor did not train with Lichter leading up to his pro day, and 2) AJ Hawk never had Lichter as a strength coach... Lichter became strength coach in June 2006.
Saine should have been a deep threat WR. He had no quicks for RB but he had very good hands. I've heard they're talking about having a gcl south team of all stars play the bungles every year in a preseason tuneup to get them ready for the Ravens and Steelers.
So he was the one prepping our team that looked like one of the fastest teams in the country except for the last game in 2006? ok. You could think he was terrible but I think he was pretty good. Colin Cowherd said our defense is slow this year..does that mean that Mickey isn't doing his Job correctly?
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Could be I'm just missing this kind of stuff, but I read most staff posts and a lot of the comments, and I never see anything remotely like "Tressel wasn't good" or "Heacock was a bum."
I clicked on it... I regretted it immediately...
I think Lichter was a little too into the Advocare shit there at the end
BuckeyeJason relax. People can have a different opinion as you. I for one think Mickey is better.
I'm very relaxed bro. Was just giving my opinion as well. Are you relaxed?
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Not gonna lie. I am a little tense!
Have a drink, it might help.
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Colin Cowherd has a derogatory comment about every team outside of USC. Plus I think Cowherd was referring more to reaction time to plays, not actually physical speed. I defy anyone to say Spence, Shazier and Roby are slow! Hankins is probably the fastest 340 lber I have probably seen play!
Blazers34,
Touche on the Advocare reference... Either you know Advocare or Coach Lichter... or you played a sport at OSU.
Waycraken - just saw Timmons highlights on Hudl, like you suggested. Yeah the dude is nice. I mean I trust in our coaches but the dude is very nice. Hudl says his listed as 6'1"? I'm guessing that's a bit exaggerated? I'm not really concerned about height though in a college receiver ... Terry Glenn, Galloway and Santonio are smaller receivers (all listed at quote - 5'11" unquote). I don't think anybody would complain if those guys were lining up for us right about now ...
But like I said, I have trust in the coaches first and foremost.
Also - Captain America's super soldier serum was created by the sweat of GCL football players.
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Trotwood-Madison. Once a Ram, Always a Ram.
I think that Saine would have made a wonderful wideout. The guy had great hands, and ran well, but did not ever seem to get the timing at the line of scrimmage that makes a running back a running back. I also was never sure that he was totally committed to contact like Boom was. But I think that they guy could have been good.
While I agree with Buckeyejason about Saine and his speed just being that in the nature of straight line speed more than agility quick sudden change of direction, I don't think he'd by any means do worse in Urbs' offense. In fact I can't think of anyone really that would be worse off in a Meyer/Herman offense than a Tressel/Bollman offense. Saine had to split time with Herron and is more of an all purpose guy than a workhorse RB. And just because he has fantastic straight line speed doesn't mean he's a going to be a great football player. I think he did just fine for us and has been doing just fine for GB in the pros as well.
Motownbuck. Yes 6'1 is definately exaggerated. I would say he might be about 6' now. To me it looks like he may have grown some and definately added some weight since summer. If he played in the GCL he may have been 6'1 220 by now with 5*
6'4 actually .
Definitely Waycraken... He'd be about 6'1" 230, and he'd be running a legit 4.2 in the 40 and a 3.95 in the shuttle, and a 10.2 FAT in the 100. But his numbers on that football field wouldn't be good at all because GCL defenses are stacked with d-linemen that weigh in the 290s and linebackers that weigh in the 260s and all of them run legit 4.2s. I have a tremendous amoutn fo respect for those strength trainers in that conference. Whatever they're doing, it is certainly working.
earlier in this post, there was some mention of coach strong maybe going to arkansas. so last night i asked a few serious dedicated louisville fans at work what they thought. they said coach strong has already turned down arkansas twice, he is not interested in that job, and never was. he also according to my co workers, has intentions of coaching louisville for at least another two years because of the commitment he gave teddy bridgewater. and coach strong has said that he is very thankful to the university for hiring him and giving him his chance of being a head coach, and has said he intends to make that job his last head coaching job. now we all know how that usually ends up. my guess personally is he will look for a more high profile coaching job someday. the uk websites are probably leaking that the uk coach is about to lose his job, i havent seen anything else on the uk web sites about coach strong. the one hot item on the uk websites is all about joker. now what impact this will have on quick playing for strong, i have not a clue.
Mickey Marrioti would eat Litcher alive! I'm not even going to debate that...these guys are in much better shape (even the Oline) then they've ever been since I've been watching OSU. The Defense looks slow because...they're playing slow and making HORRIBLE tackles (or missing and not wrapping up like this). That has little to do with strength coaching when you can't make a simple tackle like that. They're in shape...just playing bad fundamentals...which also wouldn't fall on the strength coach.
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What I want to know is when did people start respecting Cowherd's opinion? He just said they look slow, he doesn't have any real analysis. He just says I watch a lot of games, they look slow. Thanks Colin, great insight!
I don't respect his opinion, was just throwing that in there. I've heard plenty of our fans say we look slow on defense..whether they mean foot speed/reaction to the ball or just confused that remains to be seen.
Both Litcher and Mickey have their own methods and beliefs for training..theres more than one way to skin a cat, so to speak. It's not like Litcher had the players eating donuts and watching tv during workouts. It all comes down to being intense, which both are..weight lifting, running, stretching, and recovery..which both guys stressed. How do you scientifically determine who's "better"? You can't really it's basically what you prefer and Mickey was Urbans guy so that's why he's the S&C coach now.
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Buckeyestu, there was an article written on bleedbluekentucky about Charlie Strong talking to Arkansas behind back channels.
http://www.bleedbluekentucky.com/2012/09/11/charlie-strong-talking-tp-ar...
I have close ties to UofL but not inside info about Strong. Everything I know is that he is not talking to anyone nor do I think he would right now anyways. Strong isn't Petrino. He wouldn't discuss a new job 2 games into a current season of his team. Louisville fans are paranoid after Petrino and they would hate to lose Strong. UK fans just love to twist that knife you know!
I am like you, I don't believe it but there is the article saying so. and I do think that if Strong does end up going onto greener pastures at the "end" of the season, I think Quick would be swayed to OSU instead. Unless Quick really wants to stay home. But if Strong does leave, I think Louisville might take a step back, he is that good! with that, Quick among some other recruits could bail.
298 yards and 5 TDs on 10 rushes tonight in a 42-21 W.
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I listen to Cowherd because he is entertaining and his theories are crazy. Most of the time I can see his off the charts opinions but every now and then he does get annoying. I can at least deal with him though. I can't take Jim Rome. I want to deck the guy like Jim "Chris" Everett. lol
Cannot believe the single coverage on Quick. What is Cathedral thinking? Quick just scores on a very easy 72 yd. his 1st of the game
Not a bad night for football. Watching Trinity on ESPN2 and watching ULM challenging Baylor. ULM is really taking it to some teams this year.
This DE Hatcher for Trinity is also a player to watch. He is going to be good wherever he goes.
Squirrel: it just dawned on me that Rod Gilmore is an underrated analyst. He's always doing these Friday games and yet he's better than 75 percent of their Saturday analysts.
Squirrel: Hatcher is going to Southern Cal.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
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Timmons is old! He should've been out of the game years ago but he can't stay home because he hates his wife! You've met her at the Christmas parties. She's the one that gets plastered and calls him a retard!
Fido, most anyone could be better than 75 percent of the Saturday analysts! Most of them suck and #1 of suck nation is Mark May!
703, I thought that but didn't look it up before I posted it. Dude will be a monster for them. Its okay though because I think bucks have some bigger monsters.