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I posted it immediately following the play in the forum posts under the live game feed. The ref saw it and came in to seperate them. No flag of course but it was in plain view of everyone. MSU is a dirty team for obvious reasons. 

What a piece of garbage. Hope this draws multiple game suspension, absolutely no place in sports for that kInd of disgusting behavior.

Downright nauseating. Bring on the suspensions and the should be harsh

He was putting his hands on his FACEMASK. Not FACE. Huge difference. And that does not warrant EYE GOUGING.

is msu the dirtiest team in the big? gholston punching and trying to snap necks last yr and now this. dantonio training scum bags

looks like hankins palm is on the facemask, and he is not gouging. The things is, allen's was clear as day, Hank's is debateble. If you can honestly say that hank was eye gouging and completely dismiss the possibility of him just pushing him away by his facemask, then I will recant my statement, but you can't say that, because it is debatable. Allen's actions, however, are not.

Seems like Dantonio is encouraging thug play. I'm losing any remaining respect that I had for the guy!

Hankins was jabbing his facemask before he started to gouge. Did he gouge because he thought he was being gouged? IDK, maybe maybe not. But from an OBJECTIVE point of view, for some reason a few people here seem to feel the need to conjure up reasons to make MSU, with direction for Dantonio, into some dirty filthy team that is being told to be that way.

Why? We won, there is no reason for us to be pissy about something that clearly looked like a tussle BOTH ways with on player going to far. Further, all this nonsense about Dantonio being evil, ruining his players careers by playing them too much, teaching his players to gouge eyes and break knees, knwoingly playing a player who was knocked out cold, and growing horns with poisoned tips he uses to spear kittens and then burn them on top of a swastika after eating their hearts... is getting to be total nonsense, pathetic, and doesn't show well for the fans here.

He has done little but complain about Urban not sticking with the old Big Ten traditions regarding recruiting that he liked (hypocritically). He has a grumpy face, all game. He doesn't seem like a guy you want to have a beer with. Ok, I get all that, but it doesn't make him or his team as bad as everyone wants to make it and it doesn't mean OSU doesn't do some questionable things.

It all seems unnecessary...

It's a tough game thing like this happen but I agree their should be some rule in place to prevent it from happening

lol^^^^

Methinks Steensn is a Meatchicken plant. Member since May, favorite teams up north, and a lot of comments against the Bucks while defending such indefensible things like the obvious eye gouging incident. Clearly, Hankins was the victim there yet Steensn tries to turn it around as Hank's fault? I'm not buying your cover story dude. I also notice the multiple times you say "we" when referring to the "bad" things the Bucks supposedly do...like you are trying to convince us you're just one of us that sees it different.

I think you're just a clever little troll who will want to always be quick to suggest the bad.

Go away and report back to Hokey Pokey that you failed. You have been outed. Maybe if you hurry, you can get a seat at his buffet table before you're left with meatchicken bones.

I don't think Dantonio coaches his guys to be dirty but 12 personal fouls in 5 games against Michigan certainly begs questions about what he is coaching these guys up to do. I can speak from experience at a much lower level of football-coaches can tell their kids to play to, or through the whistle without actually saying it.

I don't think for a second Dantonio says "Go gougue an eye" or "Go take a swing at someone" or "Go twist a helmet". No coach at a high level gets to the point they are at with tactics like those. I do think Dantonio tells his guys to play very hard. And that word "hard" is a funny one. Means different things to different people.

I don't think he's a dirty coach, per se....but it does seem like Sparty is on the giving end of a lot of personal fouls, especially in tight, rivalry type games.

Hankins' hand was flat on Allen's facemask, who knows why, but you can't say he was being dirty for sure.  It probably didn't need to be there, but that's no excuse for Allen to eye gouge.  I doubt Hank was being dirty, but I guess it could beg the question.

Hankins was pushing off Allen.

Yep Hank was merely trying to get him away.

Hands to the face happens. Especially in the trenches. Its a technique, that like holding, probably happens more often than it is called and it gives a distinct advantage to the player executing the move. I'd venture a guess that Hankins was doing it intentionally during the whistle to get Allen to straighten up and take away his leverage.

I'm not saying that act is right but it is one of those moves that operates on the shady side of football. This is something that can be called, DURING the whistle. If anyone wants to tell me how Allen's move was anything but malicious, I'm all ears. He was probably pissed that Hankins kicked his ass during the whistle and did it in a way unbecomming of a gentleman so he got pissed and aimed to injure.

Not excusing Hankins, but what he did was during the play and occurs during plays 90 percent of the game. Apples and Oranges.

EDIT-To Hail....Sparty flagged for 12 Personal fouls in 5 games against M under Dantonio. I know people here have a soft spot for the man but as I've previously posted, one has to wonder what he is telling his guys to do or not telling them not to do in tight, chippy games. If it looks like a duck...

Steensen you can be objective and still be a fan of course.  However, calling people pathetic or their opinions pathetic probably isn't the best way to get your point across.  Some of the stuff you and Cincy had to say yesterday I agreed with, but I think people react much more to the way you guys were treating people who disagreed with you more so than the points you were trying to get across.

MSU fans are claiming that Ohio St. chopped this film up as well. It's really Big Hanks fault.

its sad that conversations on Reddit between multiple fan bases can be more civil than what I see here sometimes. *sigh*

No, an objective view is that "it happened" but that doesn't make the MSU TEAM dirty nor Dantionio teaching the players to do it. One can say it doesn't seem he has a heart to heart with them to make them stop, maybe a little complacency. I'm just drawing a CLEAR line here. I never said Hankins was eye gouging too and I clearly stated that Hankins didn't take it too far but the MSU player did. Please do not put words in my mouth. I am VERY clear on the line I think should be drawn here, and it is not saying MSU are angels. It is when we conjure up nonsense trying to make the whoel team and Dantonio seem like lamb mutilating vampires.