Eleven Warriors

I'm still a supporter of Weeden, but if they're sitting there at number 1 you take Matt Barkeley. If they aren't, they need a WR badly, and Robert Woods would be a great pick. It's a shame that Marqise Lee still has to play one more year. 

Woah guys. Go to the other thread and look, I was defending Weeden all day. I'm just saying that if they end up with the number 1 pick, it will be awful damn hard to say no to Matt Barkeley. I will say this, I was worried about linebacker depth coming into the season, but damn that defense looked really good, like best in the AFC North good. 

I would have cut him the second I saw him get stuck under the American flag before kickoff. Thanks for your time Brandon, but please enjoy your newly acquired free time.

a 5 rating doesn't help either.

Yep a guy that has done no wrong is a bum. Man, as a Browns fan, I hate other Browns fans, they're so f*cking impatient and stupid.

Statistically the worst day in the NFL is more than 'no wrong'. Now its one game, I get that, but in this NFL, rookies aren't given the same learning curve they have in years past. If you are the best QB on the roster (which he is based on his opening day start) you absolutely need to do more than 12\35. An INT or two isn't all on Weeden yesterday but a lot of misses are. One week isn't enough to write the guy off but his play was absolutely abysmal.

@William...bum is the best term I can come up with for a 28 year old rookie qb who played in a pass happy college conference, sat out of football for 5 years, is slow footed, and played in an offense that doesn't resemble anything that is run in the NFL.

I felt the browns reached (that is being polite) for him at the end of the 1st rd. As a 28 year old rookie, who is playing for a new owner and most likely a lame duck front office, he only gets this year to prove himself or he won't just be out of a job with the browns, he could quite possibly be out of the NFL period.

Is he a bum? No, actually I met him at the casino in Cleveland and he was a really nice guy. Almost made me change my mind about him, but end of the day being a nice guy doesn't win football games or make you a good qb.

So my apologies for using the word bum.  Bad NFL quarterback would probably have been better

Also, William, it is my opinion that he is not a good QB. It doesn't make me impatient or stupid, but I appreciate your personal attacks. Believe it or not, I actually based my opinion on Weeden on more than yesterday. Infact, yesterday only confirmed by feelings for him. Again though,..thanks, I appreciate the personal attacks

For the record he didn't "sit out of football for 5 years".  The guy was a first round pick of the Yankees.  Probably give the baseball career a try if you are a 1st round pick.

Doesn't matter what he was doing for those 5 years, it wasn't playing QB.

I'm not dogging Bradon Weeden, I'm sure he's a great guy but that doesn't mean he's a good QB

It's not possible to feel good about Weeden being your QB after watching his performace against RGIII's.  Of course they will take a QB, but they have to find two Guards and a WR in there somewhere as well.

yea i never really understood why you would draft a quarterback who is older than aaron rodgers and still has to develop.  or why you draft a running back with knee injuries at 5(?).  It just is frustrating watching the Browns make really strange picks year after year.  Also, if you go look at the draft order, it certainly didnt seem like anybody would trade up or down to get Weeden.  They could have gotten him at 34(?).  My remembrance of the draft is fuzzy, but what other team really needed a quarterback? Maybe Seattle, Arizona, Minnesota? but they seemed unlikely to reach for Weeden.  I dont know, its just confusing.

Barrett Jones?? He's a C.  We've got a first round young talented C.  I know he played LT last year but if he were a LT worthy of the #1 pick I'm guessing Saban wouldn't have moved him to C and he wouldn't have come back for his senior year.  

New owner, presumably new president, and possibly new GM.  If they end up with the first pick there is zero doubt they choose Matt Barkley.  And it would be a smart decision.  

^yep.  Even if we are sitting at #1 come draft day, we won't take Barkley... instead we will trade down for more picks so we can continue the 13 year rebuilding process. Barkley goes somewhere else, becomes a Pro Bowler.   Why couldn't we just suck for Luck?  It would have been awesome to finally get a top notch QB.  

yes colt wins that game sunday and weeden watches how it is done, especially since weeden looks clueless

Holmgren is a USC grad...He played QB there himself in the 60's.

No he's right, Holmgren played there and was on their national title team in 1967. 

Nothing like jumping off the bridge after week one....but man I couldn't blame you if you did.  6 total turn overs is a hell of a start for Weadon...and 39 total yards for an already injured Richardson.  I'd say Cleveland wins 3 may be 4 games...so you could be right about Barkley.  Unless there's worse teams than that ^^^^

Hmmm...I seem to remember another pitcher coming back to football although at a lower level.

Never would have imagined Holmgrem was in such good shape! I would have guess he played on the line not QB! Makes sense though he always had good QB's.

I'd say the Geno Smith sweepstakes.

How do people stomach this expansion team anyway?  Are the coaches calling for 3&outs?  I don't get the strategy in that.  I guess I just prefer a team with a richer tradition, like a Carolina Panther or a Jacksonville Jaguar.

Bucktooooooth, heeyaw.

Who cares how good Jones is or what position he plays.  Picking an offensive lineman, or any other position, over a QB is dumb when you don't have a QB.  Taking Jake Long over Matt Ryan has worked out really well for the Dolphins.