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Your 2013 Buckeyes Two Deep

  I'm bored, so here's my projected 2013 two-deep to coincide with the beginning of 2013 B1G play.  The non-conference schedule will give some of the young bucks time to emerge.  The only true freshman that I am bullish on getting a starting slot by the time B1G begins is Joey Bosa, who could be devastating opposite Noah Spence.  Starters will be more of a formality with this defensive line, however, since there is too much talent on hand and they will rotate constantly.

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     Offense                                       Defense  

LT  Jack Mewhort              LE      Noah Spence
       Evan Lisle                           Tyquan Lewis

LG  Andrew Norwell          DT       Adolphus Washington
      Tommy Brown                      Tommy Schutt

C  Corey Linsley                NT    Michael Bennett
     Jacoby Boren                      Chris Carter/Billy Price

RG  Marcus Hall                 DE       Joey Bosa
      Antonio Underwood             Se’von Pittman

RT  Taylor Decker            OLB      Ryan Shazier
      Kyle Dodson                         David Perkins

TE Jeff Heuerman           MLB      Curtis Grant  
     Marcus Baugh                        Cam Williams

X  Devin Smith                OLB      Jamal Marcus
     Michael Thomas                     Joshua Perry 

QB  Braxton Miller            CB         Bradley Roby
      Kenny Guiton                        Armani Reeves

RB  Carlos Hyde                    SAF  Christian Bryant
     Brionte Dunn/Ezekiel Elliot        Devin Bogard

TE  Nick Vannett            SAF        C.J. Barnett
       Marcus Baugh                       Tyvis Powell/Cam Burroughs 

H  Corey Brown              CB        Doran Grant
     Chris Fields                           Eli Woodward

Z  Evan Spencer      
     Verlon Reed

 

  • This assumes Hankins will declare for the draft.  He will, and he'll go in the top 10.  
  • Also assumes Tyquan Lewis will commit to OSU.  
  • Defensive line is difficult to slot, with a wealth of talent.  It will also be very young, with Bennett being the old-timer  
  • I think the FB position will be dropped from the offense next year with Boren gone.  I expect us to use a two TE set instead.  Baugh will back up both of the primary TEs, and might overtake Vannett.
  • We will be stacked in the secondary.  Could see Barnett going early to draft if he has an outstanding season, but I expect him to stay for his senior year, since it'll be a national title run.
  • Barring unforeseen injury, there should be a lot of continuity on the offensive line from 2012 to 2013.  Still want to see Dodson v. Evan Lisle in action to determine who would be the LT v. RT candidate.
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kareemabduljacobb on 15 Aug 2012 - 5:25pm #

I like, I'd also include Hill in the 2 Deep for DTs but we're going to be loaded their so we'll see what happens.  We may have a nasty 8-10 man rotation in a few years.

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kareemabduljacobb on 15 Aug 2012 - 5:26pm #

Hopefully we add Dorian Johnson, I saw that he's now down to us and Pitt for his commitment which he'll visit both, but still is visiting Va Tech as well.

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kareemabduljacobb on 15 Aug 2012 - 5:29pm #

Jalin Marshall as well should see the field.

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Matt Mod on 15 Aug 2012 - 6:01pm #

Good point, I completely blanked on him.  Easily in the two deep, potential starter by the time B1G begins, depending on his hands.

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Bj Mullens over... on 15 Aug 2012 - 6:18pm #

Tyquan Lewis will be playing OLB and even though Joey Bosa looks promising, I don't see him beating out Steve Miller for the other End spot.  Also I agree with Kareem that Jalin Marshall will see the field in some position.

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Scarlet_Buckeye on 15 Aug 2012 - 6:20pm #

We haven't even played a single game of the 2012 season.  This is waaaaaay too soon.

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bucknut8 on 15 Aug 2012 - 6:39pm #

@ Scarlet_Buckeye

Dude he's  just trying to bring up conversation & something to possibly look foward to. You cant say that you havnt been looking forward to it considering this season we cant go to a bowl game or anything.

But also I believe Steve Miller will be the RE w/ Bosa behind him. Pittman will be a DT in the future. Tyquan Lewis will be an OLB. No Mike Mitchell in this convo? I think he will be in the class & playing OLB before Lewis

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Dread on 15 Aug 2012 - 7:15pm #

Can we add Von Bell to the conversation. If he is in this class, which is as big an IF as Lewis and Mitchell, he would crack the two deep (IMO).

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J_Poe on 16 Aug 2012 - 2:21am #

Looks good, although I think if we finish relitivley high in the polls, I think Hank and CJ will come back for a shot at a National Championship

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FROMTHE18 on 16 Aug 2012 - 5:01am #

This is pretty good. Be interesting to see how it would change with new faces in this recruiting class being added.

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weimerad on 16 Aug 2012 - 8:52am #

I don't believe Hankins will go pro.  I think he'll want to come back and be the leader of the defense with Simon gone, and he'll be hungry to win a NC. 

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Buckeye06 on 16 Aug 2012 - 9:08am #

I think Hale and the Steve Miller band should be somewhere in the fold.  Hale will prob be in the NT spot you have there somewhere...This is a good problem to have in that you already listed 8 guys on the D-line and I'm including 2 more who already have significant reps and will be upperclassmen.  I don't mind rotating 10 guys at all.  And if Hankins stays...someone or 3 will probably transfer...multiple guys may transfer anyway. 

Roby could leave after this year too I think he's a RS soph but someone can correct me on that...

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Buckeyejason on 16 Aug 2012 - 9:23am #

So you basically cut Hale and Miller and put a guy who hasn't even commited backing up LEO? Fail. 

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Buckeyejason on 16 Aug 2012 - 9:33am #

Price is at NT, and Hill is not even listed..who is actually going to be a Nose tackle.. Price will be a 3 tech.

Joey Bosa is not going to start as a freshman either. 

Michael Bennett isnt a nose tackle.

Not trying to be a dick but it doesn't really sound like you know what you're talking about. 

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buck-I.8 on 16 Aug 2012 - 9:35am #

No chance Bosa gets close to being the starter by game 5 on a line like this. You have Miller and Pittman with a experience, and comparing it to this year, no one sees Noah Spence or Adolphous Washington getting starts by B1G play, despite being rated higher out of HS than Bosa.

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Nuts4Bucks on 16 Aug 2012 - 9:53am #

Our defense should be loaded next year with young talent. I am really excited to see Eli Woodard, he's a NJ kid like Malcom Jenkins was. Cam Burrows sounds like he's a stud too, our secondary will be elite for years to come. Pretty cool conversation piece @matt.

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Nuts4Bucks on 16 Aug 2012 - 10:00am #

I had to check OSU's roster, I can't belive Guiton is only a junior this year. Feels like he has been here forever!

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gobucks96 on 16 Aug 2012 - 10:10am #

Nice list and good idea to talk about! I just think a couple of items would be different..

1.I think Hayes is in the two deep on the D-line over tyquan and Bosa. also, a few other items touched on..

2.Mike Thomas will be starting, Jalin can be in the two deep.

3. Murray over Woodward, at least in the beginning...

4.(oops) O'connor finds himself in the two deep inside the oline.

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AJBor41 on 16 Aug 2012 - 10:43am #

@MATT - Nice list.  It's definitely fun, especially this time of year to think about what might lie ahead for the Bucks.

I agree with a couple of the D-line points that BuckeyeJason pointed out.  Also think, as a couple of people mentioned, that Jalin Marshall will crack the 2 deep.  Obviously another aspect that you can't account for yet, but that I am banking on, is that we have another WR or two in the 2013 class that crack this list, potentially bumping Fields or another off (i.e. Quick, Gibson, etc.)

Aside from that, I believe it's "Burrows" and "Woodard" instead of Burroughs and Woodward. 

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Buckeyejason on 16 Aug 2012 - 10:50am #

Go buck 96: Hayes is long gone buddy. 

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Scarlet_Buckeye on 16 Aug 2012 - 11:13am #

@BUCKNUT8 - Actually, I haven't looked ahead to 2013 once.  Why?  Because I'm too amped for the 2012 season to start.  Man, talk about "fans".

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Matt Mod on 16 Aug 2012 - 11:37am #

A few thoughts in response thus far:

  • I agree that D-line is tough to slot, which I stated at the outset.  I thought about slotting Steve Miller in an end position, but I was discouraged that he was unable to break into the regular rotation last season, and that JT Moore was viewed as the better reserve.  I hope he has improved since then, and I suspect he has, based on things Urban has said.  
  • Even though some of my selections slot players in positions that are arguably not their "natural" positions, I think Urban is going to get the 4 best players on the field, and not be so dogmatic about which player fits the prototype for the NT v. DT slot. That is more of a Tressel habit than a Urban habit.
  • I know Bosa starting by B1G play is a stretch, but I'm very high on him.  And taking leaps of logic is the point of hypothetical exercises like this.  I think Urban is committed to getting the most athletic playmakers on the field, regardless of their years of experience.  Spence playing opposite Bosa would be a very athletic defensive line.  Miller is a good player but I think he's more on par with a Doug Worthington -- solid and serviceable -- then a play making, tackle for loss speed end.  
  • Hankins would be foolish to stay another year.  He should strike while the iron is hot.  There is talk that he could go No. 1 overall, although I think that is a stretch.
  • Good call re: misspelled names on Cam and Eli.  My bad.
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Buckeyejason on 16 Aug 2012 - 12:50pm #

Thanks for explaining your thoughts, it's understandable. A lot of unknowns at this point..a quarter of those guys could be gone next year due to injury, transfer, grades whatever..you never know.

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Knarcisi on 17 Aug 2012 - 9:40pm #

BCS Champ favorites.  We lose almost no one. Simon will be the only irreplacable but look at our DL. Look at our schedule too. 

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sox33osu on 17 Aug 2012 - 10:39pm #

Don't be shocked if Luke Roberts beats out Cam Williams for the MLB back-up spot, and honestly, I wouldn't be shocked, if Curtis Grant doesn't bounce back, if Roberts passed him. He is going to be the next Laurinaitis in that he is very athletic and extremely intelligent, and he's also a natural born leader.

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Buckeyejason on 18 Aug 2012 - 10:35am #

KNarsici- Hankins is a possible early entry. Also we lose:

Jordan Hall

Stoneburner

Zach Boren

Fragel

nathan Williams

John Simon

Garret Goebel

Sabino

Travis Howard

Orhian Johnson

possibly even Roby if he has a monster year. 

I wouldn't call that losing nobody. 

 

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Knarcisi on 18 Aug 2012 - 11:46am #

All those guys are replaceable by the talent behind them and most will be an improvement. Fragel, Howard, Johnson, Sabino, Hall all fit into that. 

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Buckeyejason on 18 Aug 2012 - 12:07pm #

I agree with all except Hall. No one on the roster can do what he does..They don't have his quickness agility, and versatility. You also need Leadership to be  successfull, not just talent.

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Knarcisi on 18 Aug 2012 - 12:43pm #

Jalin Marshall and Eazy E were recruited to do exactly this. 

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Buckeyejason on 19 Aug 2012 - 11:25am #

Easy E's dead. May he rest in peace.

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buck-I.8 on 19 Aug 2012 - 11:30am #

You can't just expect freshman to replace seniors, it rarely works like that. That being said, Goebel, Stoney, the DBs, Sabino, and Williams are replaceable. Guys like Simon (work ethic, leadership) and Hall (unique skill set) are less so. I won't worry about Roby and Hankins until they both declare.

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Buckeyejason on 19 Aug 2012 - 11:51am #

Yep

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