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Usain Bolt vs Insane Denard

Denard says he thinks he can beat Bolt in the 40yrd dash. Nevermind that De'Nard ran track for michigan 2 years ago and finished 9th in the 60 meters and failed to qualify for he Big 10 championship finals. I tried not to make assumptions based on his dreads but now I know he's smoking weed.

 
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johnblairgobucks on 13 Aug 2012 - 11:30pm #

60 meters does not equal 40yards.  who knows?

Usain taking 2 strides to Deeenard's 4 would be funny to see.

I think Ted Ginn would beat Deeenard in a 40yard dash.

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avail31678 on 13 Aug 2012 - 11:42pm #

This story may have died down by the time we play UM in November...so I at least hope that Bama fans EAT this up and make all sorts of signs taunting Denard for their game on Sep. 1st.  I get the whole idea that Denard would have a chance since Bolt's supposedly slow out of the blocks and uses his long yet quick stride to overcome opponents in the last 50m or so....but world class sprinters were barely ahead of him (if at all) 40 meters into the 100m and 200m in the Olympics.  Denard is dreaming. 

@ JohnBlair...true...but shoot, I think Pryor could give Denard a good run in the 40.  I remember all the hype about his deceiving speed - everyone on the team swore he was the fastest Buckeye, and he had a supposed 4.4 time.  I think there are MANY people that could take Denard in a 40, Usain Bolt being at the top of that list.

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nmaxwell on 13 Aug 2012 - 11:43pm #

while denard is faster than anyone on either michigan or ohio state's roster currently, no way he competes with bolt.  he has a couple of things working for him (great acceleration, not too tall) and a couple things that work against bolt (him being 6'5" and never seeming to be spectacular in the first half of his 100m races).  but bolt is used to reacting to a starting command, and denard has proven to be only slightly above average in terms of track speed.  his strength is in keeping some of that speed with pads on.  i bet it would be closer than most think, but literally 5 yards after the finish line, bolt would pull away at an exponential rate. 

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osubuckeye4life on 13 Aug 2012 - 11:56pm #

 

 

I would have loved to have seen Ginn vs Robinson though. If I remember correctly Ginn qualified for the Olympics in track. 

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D. Anthony on 13 Aug 2012 - 11:55pm #

It shouldn't be hard for someone to figure the 40yrd point in Bolt's record 100 dash and see what he ran, albeit not in pads/cleats etc. The only reason it might seem kinda close is due to here fact that there's not much time to separate in such a short race.

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Buckeye_in_SEC_... on 14 Aug 2012 - 12:03am #

@NMAXWELL... Denard is faster than a 4.31 in the 40? I can't remember if it was Roby or Hall who ran that, but I can't see Robinson being faster. If that's the case, he will be a top 10 pick as an athlete in next years draft. They'll move him to RB or WR in the NFL if he is that fast. Don't see it tho.

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GlueFingers Lavelli on 14 Aug 2012 - 12:03am #

Theres no way in hell. Denard is fast, but not the fastest player in college football. Bolt would toast him in a 40 on grass or anywhere for that matter.  Imagine Bolt showing up on the UM campus and calling him out. Denard would shit down his leg.   Desmond Howard says he thinks Denard would win.  lol   I would love to see this happen.  Didn't Chris Johnson call out Bolt then back out? I thought I read that somewhere.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

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WoodysGlasses on 14 Aug 2012 - 12:04am #

Who cares?  The guy was probably half-kidding, and next thing you know the interwebs explode.  Geez.  And yes Buckeye, Detard is faster than both Roby and Hall.

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Alex Root on 14 Aug 2012 - 12:06am #

This is why Chris Johnson and Bolt never raced. Johnson wanted to do a 40yd and bolt wanted to something like a 60yd race, probably because bolt knows his first 40 isn't the greatest its his last 60 that is crazy. And by his first 40 not as fast he still probably runs a 4.3 or something. I wish they would do a 40 split in the olympic races just so we could see what they run.

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GlueFingers Lavelli on 14 Aug 2012 - 12:06am #

Is Denard faster than lets say Armanti Edwards?

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

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GlueFingers Lavelli on 14 Aug 2012 - 12:09am #

I used to love watching Tim Dwight run, Nothing like watching a 5'8'' white boy outrun the Menver Broncos on that kickoff return in the superbowl.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

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M Man on 14 Aug 2012 - 12:11am #

You asked for it, MGoBlog's got it; Usain Bolt faaaaster than Michigan's quarterback.

Then, YouTube's got it; Michigan's quarterback faster than the Buckeye track team 60m specialists.

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johnblairgobucks on 14 Aug 2012 - 12:43am #

2009- 10 carries 31 yards

2010- 18 carries 105 yards

2011- 26 carries 170 yards

54 carries for 306 yards.  He's fast, but OSU has plenty of guys that know how to get to him. 

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hail2victors9 on 14 Aug 2012 - 8:08am #

09 Tate Forcier was the starting QB...Denard played 2 or 3 series.  '10 and '11 he averaged 6.25 yards per carry...wouldn't be bragging on that.  If you want to add in '09, it drops to 5.6 ypc.  I'll take that any day from any player at any position.

If you want an argument, see exhibit "SPARTY" c/o "NARDUZZI."  MSU has had great success containing Denard.  VaTech also, to a lesser degree.  At the opposite end of the spectrum, see "BEET FACE."

FWIW, Denard isn't faster than Bolt, nor could he win a race against him.  However, I doubt Denard was serious in those comments.  He was interviewed along with several other M players discussing the olympics, and was talking about Bolt very jokingly.  Said Bolt couldn't cut it as a QB, but that he [denard] could be a track star (already has been, to a degree) and that he misses track.

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Jdadams01 on 14 Aug 2012 - 8:16am #

No.

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sir rickithda3rd on 14 Aug 2012 - 8:23am #

wow theres a case of entitlement..i can do what the best in the world does but he cant do what i can...

1st denard youre not a good qb hate to break it to u... and i still want to see him and roby run the 40.... 4.31 is a very strong time

 

 

mark may wins douchebag of the year... again

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LouGroza on 14 Aug 2012 - 8:27am #

Thought all the jawing might have died down some up there. The recruits apparently were delivered a message to shut up since they haven't popped off in a while. But now the starting QB starts something else. At least wait for a couple winning seasons in a row to mouth off. After that you may have earned the right. Until then please shut it. Understand it's not FB related but still gets out there. Do not get all the look at me that team does. Can't help but bite them in the butt at some point. Imagine John Simon ranting about being able to outlift the olympic lifters. Would be ridiculous along with a waste of time even if feasible, don't you think?

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johnblairgobucks on 14 Aug 2012 - 8:29am #

@ Hail, wasn't bragging on anything.  Wasn't saying I'm faster the Bolt, haven't claimed to not tie my shoes even when I was 8 wearing my velcroed Kangaroos, I don't eat imaginary cereal, and I'm not 1-2 vs my rival.

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BlueBayou on 14 Aug 2012 - 9:27am #

Below is a repost of a comment I made on the Monday Skull Session.  It appears to be more appropriate here.

Looking at the evidenced provided by an earlier link and since it is wiki, I found the author's calculations to be a little flawed and decided to run through what I thought would be a better analysis on my own.

The following analysis is on Usain Bolts world record time of 9.58 seconds in the 100 meter dash where he did not let up at the end.  I used the information at the following link for my calculations.  http://www.sportsscientists.com/2009/08/analysis-of-bolts-958-wr.html

Bullet Points
1) Approximately 20 meters  = 21.87 yards
2) Usain was aided by .9 meters/hr wind (estimated it reduced time by 0.05 seconds)
3) Usain Bolt’s reaction time was recorded at .165 seconds
4) Usain Bolt ran first 20 meters in 2.89 seconds
5) Usain Bolt ran second 20 meters in 1.75 seconds
6) Usain Bolt ran third 20 meters in 1.67 seconds
7) Usain Bolt 40 meter split = 4.64 second
 

First Method to calculate 40 time by using 20 meter split times.

1st 20 meter split time – reaction time + 2nd 20 meter split time *(40yards - 21.87 yards)/21.87 + wind factor

40 time = 2.89sec – 0.165sec +1.75sec*1.094/ (40yd-21.87yd) +0.05 = 4.226 seconds (if wind factor is ignored then he is at 4.176 seconds)

Second Method to calculate 40 yard time by subtracting additional distance time off of 40 meter split.
 

40 meter split – reaction time + wind factor – average time of 2nd and 3rd split / 21.87 yards *3.74 additional yards ran = 4.233 seconds (if wind factor is ignored, he is at 4.183 seconds)

The breakdown of Usain Bolt’s world record time he set in 2009 in Germany seems to put him at 4.23 seconds for the 40 yard dash using starting blocks.  Does anyone know if Chris Johnson used starting blocks when he was recorded at 4.24 seconds?   The only number I estimated based on no documented evidence was the wind factor of 0.05 seconds, but I thought it was reasonable and if the wind is greater than 2 meters / hr, the time won’t count for a world record.  A wind factor was used because I believe the combine times are indoors and don’t have the benefit of being aided, unless they have the heat turned up that day.
 

So considering Usain Bolt’s world record was set in 2009 and he hasn’t matched it since, it is reasonable to assume that he may currently have a slower 40 time than his WR pace.  Also, if Chris Johnson’s combine time was established without the use of starting blocks, that seems to make it that much more impressive.  I’m willing to give Chris Johnson the benefit of the doubt that he may be able to beat Usain Bolt if he is still at his combine performance level.

As for Denard, this seems to be a reporter lead scenario, and my assumption is it wasn’t a boast as much as a tongue in cheek response.  He probably was just having fun with the reporter.  Regardless, could he beat Usain in the 40 yard dash?  I don’t know since his time hasn’t been clocked in a combine like setting as far as I know.  The fastest time I’ve seen for him is 4.32 seconds, but I’m not sure how that was calculated, so there is really nothing to be able to attempt a comparison.  My guess is Usain would beat Denard, but it probably would be closer than this forum expects.

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steensn on 14 Aug 2012 - 9:50am #

You know what would be fun? Someone taking Denards 60 meter indoor video, split screening it with Bolt's 100 meter video, time them so they start at the gun starts them at the same time, and mark a 40 meter line and play them together. That'd be a fun video, to bad I have no idea how to do that....

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BlueBayou on 14 Aug 2012 - 10:38am #

Steensn, I agree with you, that would be interesting to see a video.  Ginn would be interesting too, probably one of the fastest to ever play the game.

As for another eyeball test, one can look at Olympic sprinter Justin Gatlin.  Justin's fastest 40 time at the NFL combine in 2008 was 4.42 seconds.  Justin ran this when he could run the 100 meter in 9.77 seconds.  So Justin's 100 meter time is 0.19 seconds slower than the 9.58 seconds run by Bolt.  So given these facts, let's estimate Usain Bolt's potential combine 40 using Justin's time as a benchmark.  Since they tend to be neck and neck around the 40 yard mark, this seems fair.

1st Method to calculate 40 yard time by averaging the gap between Gatlin and Bolt over the 100 meters and then applying it to Justin's 40 time.

40 time = 4.42 seconds - 0.19 seconds/109.361 yards * 40 yards = 4.35 seconds

2nd Method to calculate maximum 40 yard time assuming the entire gap between Gatlin and Bolt was acheived in the first 40 yards

40 time = 4.42 seconds - 0.19 seconds = 4.23 seconds

Since this incorporates an Olympic track sprinter's time in an NFL combine type scenario, it really seems to be lending creedence to the fact that Chris Johnson may have been able to take Bolt in a combine type setting.  I don't know about Denard though, but still believe it would be closer than people believe, maybe even in the track scenario.  Keep in mind, all these calculations are based on the fastest time ever recorded.

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BuckeyeFreak4844 on 14 Aug 2012 - 10:37am #

As much as i hate michigan, im sure he was playing around. 

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