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sweet, the  SEC  is gonna love that kid

is game over?

Whatever the stats are, good or bad, the kid sure looks legit on that highlight tape.  I hope that we offer him.  His suddenness (is that spelled right?) is pretty damn good.  

I just wish I could see him in a camp setting, or a situation where he could play against competition and speed more on par with his own. It's difficult to see how a guy projects at the next level when the competition isn't comparable. I won't be sold on him until I see that

Urban and the staff did see him in the camp setting against better competition and he didn't get his offer. That's why it is pretty clear to me that Timmons is a Plan B guy behind guys like Quick, Gibson, Stevens, and North. Timmons gets his offer if we strike out on all 4.

Waycraken how are you "certain Urban wants him" when there are a half dozen other recievers that have been offered in front of him?

quick 8 catches for 116 yards tonight, not quite as good as timmons tonight. isnt quick one of the many in front of timmons?

Of note Quick was going up against Jalen Ramsey's team and chances are they went up against each other.  If they did go against each other I'd say Quick had a pretty good night for going up against a high 4* USC committ CB.

In Jim Tressel's 10 recruiting classes, he had at most 5 to 6 guys committed to a class before September rolled around.  Folks, there are still 5 months till NLOI Day with less than 5 LOI's left to fill.  A lot can happen.  Maybe this staff wants to watch these kids play their SENIOR season before they take any commitment, or offer up any offers.  Urban closed on and offered a slew of kids, and didn't start his attemps until December last year.  Look what he did in 2 months.  He has 5 months now.  I'm pretty sure he'll find and offer who he wants.

till then, guess will have to read these posts about who is better.  it will be like sitting around a fishing hole watching two guys throw bait in the water, getting excited over a bobbing bobber.

Ok so if we trust Urban, why is this a discussion? He doesn't have an offer, after camping, visiting, and having his film seen by the staff. Since the staff seems to have backed off all slot options, it seems that he won't get one. The staff knows more than we do.

And JohnBlair, Just like fishing, no one is making you watch it.

amen to that johnblair

Who is this and why do we care?

"no offer...enough said..." hhhmmm is someone getting testy? oh and yes trinity is awesome, number one in ky.

Timmons isn't coming here, Quick is better and it isn't that close. I'm getting sick of this.

I was at fnl .  I saw gibson .Plenty of speed , But droped a lot of passes. Saw allen he was ok . All i know is these kids got the shit worked out of them it was a really fast paced camp.At the end when you thought the event  was done  . Coach mick lined each group up and they did the fastest to the finish. So all recivers had there shot to see who was king. Ryan T won his group. Then when they took all winners from each group .To see who was the the fastest of the event . Ryan T just smoked em all and wasnt even close. I recall all the people in the stands saying who the hell was that. So if urb wants to get a guy who blows the top off the d . I would have went over and said son we need you to be a buckeye. Cause you just worked for 4 hrs then just kicked all there asses. And i saw it in person.  GO BUCKS

^Well said sir.

@Stu, you're right, signing day is a ways off, but with the class size limits that we have, it's unlikely another slot rb/wr is even being considered. Whitfield was backed off on when Jacobs committed, so you have to think unless there's a decommitment, Timmons' window is closed.

1. If you respected Urban Meyer, you would know his name doesn't have an "s" on the end.

2. Percy Harvin and Marcus Lattimore (who is more of a power back + speed a la Carlos Hyde, not like Harvin) were 5 stars coming out of HS for a reason. Everyone knew what they could do, and they performed as such.

3. Again, Quick was single covered by a top 20 DB while Timmons was defended by a mediocre at best Kentucky defense. I refuse to believe any defense that gives up 62 points to anyone can be regarded as quality.

He's more a power back than a slot hybrid guy like Harvin, and like Timmons is being recruited as by OSU and Arkansas, the two current most likely candidates for his services.

That being said, that isn't even the point: The two guys you named were extremely dangerous, but also adequately rated as such and noticed by the same experts who have seen Timmons' tape and not ranked him highly or offered him.

I do, but why use the example of two 5 stars? You're saying people don't know what they're capable of or something, but they're not on an even playing field with RT. Let me reiterate man, I want Timmons to succeed as much as you do. I'm just not sold on his talent yet, and sadly, the odds of him being a buckeye are pretty slim, seeing as his position is regarded to be full at this time.

I don't know if basketball talent really demonstrates football physicality. Craft was a QB, you're not gonna throw the kid in as RB and expect him to take that wear and tear.

Thanks man, know that I do respect your arguments. I agree with some, and disagree with others, but when it comes to wanting to see Timmons succeed, we're on the same side.

Hey Waycrack...found something you may like...read this below: It's from an moderator at BP and it's alittle old.  Sounds like good things for Ryan if all else fails...which it may (Quick, Foster, Stevens, and Allen/North).  

http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/football-recruiting/620909-2013-out-s...

You missed my point. Compare the stats for Quick against other KY teams (all of which are better than any team Franklin Co. plays). Also, Quick doesn't get as many touches because Trinity has more than one offensive weapon. 

Furthermore, Trinity and "most other Catholic schools" aren't like that. I grew up in the catholic school system in Louisville and players are recruited just as hard by public schools as they are catholic ones. Public schools got waivers for players to switch districts all the time, so don't buy all the bs that they claim. Also, not a single player I ever played with was held back in the system in order to be a 19 year old senior, hell we only had a few 18 year olds on the team. We had a few players come just across the river from Jeffersonville In, but that is it. Lastly, your "12 counties" reference is way off base. 90-95% of the players grew up playing together in the catholic grade school system in Louisville. To make such claims when you have no idea what you are talking about hurts your arguments for Timmons and lessens your credibility. 

Look Waycracken, i understand that you think Timmons is a diamond in the rough and want him to succeed and i agree for the mot part and rescpect your opion. That being said  saying hes better than James Quick is absolutey rediculous. Any nonbiased fan could watch those two tapes and see that James Quick is on a whole different level than Timmons. Quick looks like he's playing against middle schoolers out there while playing the toughest high school schedule in America. His speed without pads is as good as Timmons and with pads on it's not even close. You can't really compare stats because Trinity's streangth of schedule is alot better than Franklin County. There is a reason he has not been offered by Ohio State and there is a reason he has a lower ranking on every single recruiting service than Quick. Honestley i do want him to succeed and he sounds like a solid kid and player but i'm getting sick of seeing posts about him on here when he is clearly not coming to OSU (especially since we have two players who play the exact same posisition as him already in the 2013 class) and there are better players still on our radar.

but personally i trust the guy with 2 national championships

It's true Quick is playing better competition, but he's also playing with FAR better players on his team than Timmons is.  He has a very good QB, who is being protected by a very good O-line, then there's a terrific RB who is taking carries and keeping the defense honest.  It's impossible to say how either guy would play if they were in the other's shoes, but my guess is we'd be having a similar argument only we'd be saying Quick isn't getting enough respect.

There are guys who have been great college and even made the NFL who didn't play great competition that came from NKY.  Derek Smith, Jared Lorenzon, Shaun Alexander, and Brent Grover are all examples. Barker, the QB that hasn't played a snap of his JR year yet, the guy people are saying we need to offer now because he's going to be a terrific leader and help recruit the rest of the 2014 class.  He plays weak assed competition as well.

You can find physical reasons you like one guy over the other but can we quit talking about the competition they play, because you can just as easily make an argument about the talent surrounding each player and how that contributes to their success as well.

I don't think of Jacobs as a slot guy, not to say that his moves aren't good, but I think that he ends up on the outside.