- Jonathan Hilliman unofficially visits Rutgers
- 2014 WR Johnnie Dixon rocking Gators shorts at practice
- Laquon Treadwell says officials he plans to take are Ole Miss Okie St Oklahoma Auburn. Maybe see Florida also
- Drew Barker says he will definitely hit games at Ohio State Louisville Cincinnati & Purdue
- Johnnie Dixon says he is supposed to call Ohio State coaches tonight
- Demetrius Knox is not committing today
Cornelius Elder still unsure on athletic path 
Cornelius Elder doesn't know where he's going to college. In fact, he still doesn't even know what sport he'll play when he gets there.
The four-star running back prospect from Nashville (Tn.) Ensworth said he is still undecided if he'll pursue one of a batch of strong football scholarship offers or pursue his passion: basketball.
“I'm not sure yet,” the ESPN 300 prospect said. “I still haven't made that decision.”
Levonte Whitfield (Orlando, Fla./Jones) is ready to take away all the suspense.
And the decision could come sooner than some anticipated for the 12th-ranked wide receiver in the nation. No. 84 in the ESPN 150, Whitfield hinted the time has come to offer his services up.
“It’ll probably be some time next week, but it could be this week. I’m not sure when,” he said.
The one thing Whitfield is sure of is his final schools, as Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Ohio State and West Virginia are in the mix.
The 5-foot-9, 176-pound Whitfield has an official visit planned at Ohio State for the Nov. 24 Michigan game because he can't wait to see the history being played between those two schools and the rivalry.
Does this mean no official for Treadwell to UM? He's been there several times, but I would've thought they'd get an official visit since they're holding a spot for him and all. I would love it if some other school sweeps him off his feet and changes his mind about going Blue.
I think he said he's not gonna take an official to UM since he's been there so much and its the closest/least costly of the schools to visit
Favorite Buckeye: Obviously BJ Mullens
I figured it was probably something like that.
What was reported on Timmons and OSU on rivals today
Timmons???? Why? No offer=not going to OSU. He'll be a Hog or going elsewhere. He impressed at FNL, but he will not be a Buckeye. He almost didn't go but wouldn't pass up the opportunity. As fas as I know...that's all that has been said since 7/27....besides Alex's tweet that he "expects" an offer. Meaning Timmons expects one...not Alex btw...
No offense Cracken, but if he doesn't get an offer soon...he's not going to get one unless ALL other WRs are not available due to going elsewhere. The staff will wait for Quick, Allen and others before they give an offer to Timmons IMHO.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
@Bhop, Agree. Timmons will be a Razorback before our WR class becomes clear enough for him to get an offer.
Every person I know that have seen both Quick and Timmons in person pick Timmons. Allen is not even close to either. He looks about 4.6. You know you have to be faster than that unless your a TE. Timmon will be able to build upon his 7 percent body fat index. Dont know if you know this but he is D1 basketball as well. A true athlete.
Waycracken: One of our good 11W writers reported from FNL than Timmons is good, but not superior to anyone. Timmons is blazing fast, but is not explosive; that won't fly in a UFM offense. If anything, Meyer would probably take an explosive guy over a burner any day.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
Do you have any idea why they run the 40 instead of the 100? I do not disregard an opion but saying Ryan Timmons is not explosive is very interesting. To be timed at 4.31 laser in one camp you have to be explosive. Take a look at his film and the 4 clips of him at FNL and you will see for yourself what he can do. Sorry if my promoting Ryan rubs some wrong. I would just like to see this special kid end up on my favorite team. Go to Hudl and view his films. You have 38 TDs to view. And he was the sole focus against every teams defense.
Timmons is FAST. That being said, it doesn't make him a polished prospect. He won't be able to outrun everyone at the next level, and he's not a polished runner, or a really strong guy. Quick is only slightly less fast, is a better run, has plenty of wiggle, and is larger as well. I think it's safe to assume the coaches aren't looking for another slot guy, and even when they were Timmons got offers behind Whitfield and Jacobs. Can we just trust the experts and let it go?
Top end speed against mostly poor athletes will win every time. Put Timmons against athletes just as fast as him and explosiveness will come in to play. If it were all about speed, Timmons would have been offered a long time ago.
Example: Usain Bolt is not a good starter but makes up for it with his freakish speed.
btw: I don't care why they run the 40 instead of the 100. They're both useless for football.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
The experts are in touch with him every day. Its the experts on here that keep mis representing. Timmons is stronger by the way. It seems like the experts on here didnt even recognize who he was. He has more muscle than most of the ones your mentioning. Especially Quick. Quick is second best on your list though.
So explain to me why Quick has offers from Oregon, Bama, OSU, UM, ND, and Auburn, while Timmons has Arkansas and.... Purdue. Are you trying to tell me that you're a better evaluator of talent than a group of coaches that have racked up double digit BCS bowl wins in the past 4 years amongst them?
What does muscle have to do with this? Plenty of receivers do just fine with "lanky" frames; Cris Carter, Randy Moss, and Deshawn Jackson come to mind.
A list of offers doesn't mean everything, but look at Quck's offers and look at Timmons'...
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
By the way, I'm not trying to say Timmons is a bad prospect; I'm just stating my position.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
Waycraken, I don't want you to think I don't respect your opinion, I just think they're bodies of work speak for themselves. That being said, it's basically apples and oranges. Timmons is a slot receiver, an ATH on most sites. Quick is a versatile WR. Timmons is faster, but Quick is a better WR. This is the reason their offers differ. I'm not saying one is explicitly better than the other.
Good points but their was many other enquiries as to his interest and some schools like Wisconsin and many others. Bama USC are always in contact. Most of you are in agreement with his best position being slot/RB. One other big factor you have to consider Timmons had to climb the charts all on his own. He did not have the luxury of playing high profile school. His ratings increased more than any player in a 6 month period. Went from no rating to a 50 and now up to a 91. While most were getting there early offers he was completely unknown.
Rating on what site? And then you admit we can't adequately compare Quick and Timmons?
in a debate like this i look at offer lists and as stated by a few other posters, quick > timmons
O'Deez330
stark county football
Quick always receives single coverage. Timmons has the whole defense aligned his way. Always with double and triple coverage. Yet Timmons had nearly identical numbers in yds and TDs with half the receptions but doubled his numbers in yds and TDs with his RB numbers added. Averaged 25yds a touch! Scored once every 2.3 times he touched the ball. All while having defense alligned his way. His school did play 5a and their in state competition was as good as Trinity's. Franklin County IMO would beat Trotwood. Ohio high school level was really down last year.
Is waycracken timmons?
F--- Michigan!
I hear your points, and I respect the passion, but I have to side with the experts in the top coaching staffs in the nation here.
Thats funny. This kid is extremely quiet and respectful. I just hope I am not hurting his chances. He obviously doesnt need my kind of help. Dont dislike the kid because of my enthusiasm.
doesnt trinity play a national schedule while timmons plays kentucky football competition or does timmons team play out of state powers like quick and trinity?
O'Deez330
stark county football
Wow...I didn't realize what had happened until I got home from work and saw this above. In memory of Anchorman...I had to do this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7tgX_Uaqs
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
I said there in state schedule. Trinity was 1 in nation last year based largely on their out of state schedule. Franklin County is your typical public school that has to get by on a rather small budget and play under a different set of rules.
@bhop, you think this escalated? Check out the other threads today
You want Quick over Timmons any day of the week. Timmons is more of a tweener like Whitfield/Jacobs, Quick has that speed, but adds size and true WR capability.
That's what I'm saying: If you want a slot guy, Timmons is up there with Jacobs and Whitfield. If you want a true WR, Timmons isn't close
Kentucky 5a is no where close to the 6a competition
ok thx cracken but quick and timmons putting up similar numbers, quick vs elites across the country, timmons vs in state kentucky competition. quick's numbers are much more impressive when you consider this
O'Deez330
stark county football
I'm hoping for Quick, Allen and may be, just may be Tony Stevens. Those guys would be pretty darn good. I could care about Timmons (and I mean nothing bad by this). I just can't see him getting an offer till these and others are out as far as commits. I'd even be more interested in Foster over Timmons any day. However I think that ship has sailed for him...looks like Alabama and Pitt battle...at the moment.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
@OSU Bucks. With the exception of Trinity. Last year 6A was down just like Ohio football.
Tony Stevens may be the underhyped in this all. Big, fast dude with legit interest in OSU. Lit up Gridiron Kings.
Uncommitted:
1.) Quick
2.) North
3.) Gibson
4.) TImmons
5.) Allen
Committed:
1.) Stevens
2.) Stringfellow
When it is all said and done the staff is really hitting the defense hard because Meyer knows what it is going to take to win a national title. I don't think our WR's are as bad as they make them out to be. Otherwise, I think they would be on these recruits a little harder.
@Buckeye_in_SEC ... I agree I don't think our WRs are as bad either. Think its a motivation ploy courtesy of Mr.Meyer. Basically saying they need to step up ...
@Waycraken ... I'm a fan of Timmons no doubt about it, I like his ability running directly from the backfield, however I too would take Quick over him, Foster, and probably Whitfield too, Allen most definitely not. Hey like I always say you never know how things will shake out in recruiting.
^You take Foster no matter what lol, not that he's shown much interest since his visit.
Not saying Foster won't be great, but I think that ship has sailed. He may not want to come here anymore and I'm not sure the staff wants him anymore either. I don't get a sense from anyone "in the know" that Foster is a reality anymore.
Trinity, in regular season only played 3 instate schools and it was because they had to play those district games. Every other regular season game came against out of state schools that are very good. At the same time though, Timmons could be that good, it's not his fault that his school isn't as good and doesn't have the power to schedule teams from all over the country like Trinity.
That's why recruiters and coaches make the big bucks though. They are paid to evaluate his performance against the talent infront of him. I remember watching Shaun Alexander at Boone County shred the weak assed teams around here every week. He didn't have great competition but he was the real deal. I've seen kids from Highlands destroy AAA competition that was subpar and go on to play at a high level in college too.
Anyway, I know one thing, me viewing youtube videos of the kids playing definitely doesn't make me qualified to say one is better than the other. I'll leave those decisions to the guys who get paid to do it.
Next arguement: Whitfield vs Jacobs.
Whitfield>Jacobs. But essentially they're the same, Whitfield is just a little faster on the field.
@BT, I agree on both posts. However, Foster really hasn't shown much interest (vocally) in any programs other than Pitt, OSU, and Alabama.
Right this second: Whitfield over Jacobs
Potential-wise: Jacobs over Whitfield
@Waycracken, Quick does not always receive single coverage, if you watch large portions of game footage you see he is bracketed on most plays. Had he played against the same competition as Timmons it wouldn't surprise me if Quick had 38 Touchdowns. Trinity played the four toughest teams from the state of KY in Male, Manual, St. X and Scott Co., Franklin did not even play bowling green from 5A so to compare the in-state schedules is inaccurate. Your right it isn't Timmons fault, but it isn't Quicks either.
Also, Quick is the first freshman to start a game of varsity football since Trinity began to field their own freshman team (Brian Brohm never started as a frosh and he was Gatorade Player of the Year, USA Today offensive player of the year, and was vying for a heisman as a jr at UofL). That should indicate Quick's talent.
FWIW, Quick ran a 10.70 100m at the state track meet and Timmons ran a 10.84. Timmons is a very good player, but he is not on the same level as the top 2 or 3 WR currently on our board.
@BTALBET: do you know that Shaun Alexander named his daughter Trinity?
@Smith for what its worth, Timmons had 18 recieving touchdowns, so that number is a little less inflated/incredible
Wow, I didn't know Timmons had that many rushing to inflate his numbers. I believe Quick had 16 receiving, so take that with the SOS and I don't see much of a comparison.
I disagree Whitfield isn't better than Jacobs. Faster probably, better I don't think so. I think Jacobs could be a difference maker in all 3 phases of the game. Whitfield 2 phases.
I cannot win the argument Trinity played better competition. As for that argument all of your other recruits especially Allen didnt either. Two of OSU's recruits has commented how good Timmons is including Burroughs at VTO and Eliot. 38 TDs on 100 touches with 2500 yds. His Tds wasnt goal line TDs easy math here 25 yds a touch.
No you can't, because Trinity plays one of the hardest schedules in the country.
Again, no one is saying he's not good. And most of us agreed he's more prolific that Allen. But again, they don't play the same position.
Okay, I'll bite. It seems that we've compared Whitfield to Jacobs, so how do Timmons and Jacobs compare?
At this moment, I'd say Timmons is a better prospect, and the services tend to agree. But Jacobs has a frame to build on, comparable speed, and better route running abilities, so I think he has a higher ceiling.
Gotcha, sounds like the exact same reason that we picked up Sprinkle this year, and even Marcus last year.
I think Marcus is a different story. He's a little raw like a lot of prospects, but he's not a project, he's already a beast physically and instinctually. I think he was just severely underrated in HS, and we got a big time steal.
Marcus will play this year, book it. Whilst on the subject, Cam Williams will play too, give him some time, he is a monster as well. In fact, I expect all three (Marcus, Williams, and Freak Perkins to see some time this year).
It's interesting to see Cam Williams highest on the depth chart, ahead of a few LBs that enrolled early. That should really show his readiness
True, I suppose I was referring Meyer's "doesn't know up from down" quote. I suppose it could refer to him just being a Freshman in the system, but it appears that all the reports out of fall camp are framing Marcus as a more unpolished prospect than Spence and Washington. Regardless, I can't wait to see this kid in action, he's going to be a special one. Imagine him playing Viper, rushing the QB with Simon, Spence, Hankins, and Williams...talk about a massacre.
Well yeah, he won't be the same level as two of the top DEs in the nation in HS. And he is very raw, but I think we can credit part of that to playing a different position than he did in high school. Washington lined up inside and outside for Taft, his transition to 3 tech won't be as difficult as Marcus' to LB.
Williams was playing on third team defense at the mike position when Curtis Grant returned. As for him being higher than the early-enrolled guys, Josh Perry is on second team behind Shazier. Not sure why Perry isn't getting much love from any publications, but I know Meyer had some nice things to say about him during spring camp.
Class of 2016. Go Bucks!