PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
Can it be 2013 already?
Full box score for anyone interested. Kid had 312 rushing yards. That's insane.
When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.
But what about Timmons?
Sorry couldnt help myself...
Lovin it. Couldn't ask for anything more from the future buckeye game breaker! 2013 is looking to be a heck of a year. but I will not take this year for granted! :)
I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!
I still think he ends up at running back full time.
^ Any specific reason why? He's clearly working hard on route running, and his presence would be diminished strictly out of the backfield. Just curious
Apparently he had great route running at camps this year, FWIW.
He'll be used like Percy Harvin
^ Can see him perfectly in that slot back role. Who knows...run a little "wildcat" package haha probably not though. Still, hard to believe he lost his 5th star from a few sites and fell in the rankings. I heard he didn't impress with his separation as a WR at some camps, but when you rush for 300+ against St. X....give me a break.
He'll be used all over...
I thinks someone should personally return his 5th star with an apology. That was a huge game against a major big-time high school program. Sorry, Mr. Marshall!
he'll get it back
@buck i.8 ... Here is why I think he ends up full time in the backfield. We all know he has absolute ankle breaking "juking" ability, but from most of the highlights I've witnessed his long runs often time come from him breaking a tackle, or 2, or 3. More like a running back then a WR I think. He has the body type of a running back more then then a WR as well he is around 5'11'ish 190lbs'ish as a high school senior that's the size of some starting D1 running backs. He is built solid all the way through his legs he isn't just top heavy. Which means he is going to get bigger I can see him gaining 15-20lbs in a couple of years now we're talking 210lbs. Now you have all this size, power, speed, agility, in a HB with legit WR ability. I think it doesn't diminish his value, but increases it. Urban has already said he wants to run a power spread, and will have some I-formation as well. With a guy like Marshall in the back field he offers so much scheme versatility it wouldn't be far. It's conceivable we could go w/an H-Back of course from the I-Formation to 5-wide w/o a single substitution. Now that's something I don't think many teams in the country would have the ability to do, and I'm sure that would be a definite headache to game plan for as well. I often hear P.Harvin's name thrown around as a comparison, but how about R.Bush for a comparison, he wasn't limited to just the backfield, but his primary role was RB. This is simply my opinion of course, and I'm sure many will disagree.
Marshall will be an absolute STUD in OSU's offense. No doubter...he'll be what Hall's doing this year but light years better due to illusiveness and speed. When I saw his highlights last year I was very happy. Not surprised by these stats he put up last night and wouldn't if he puts up over 2000+ yards rushing and about 1000 yards passing on the year. Not to mention about 300 or so receiving.
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What do you do with Dunn, Ball, and Elliot then if you put Marshall at RB? Keep him in the slot..and let him return kicks. He'll he carrying the ball alot on end arounds, reverses, jet sweeps etc. anyways.
Marshall will be a do it all type of player. He'll probably return kicks, line up in the slot, take snaps as a Wildcat QB, reverses, hand offs. He's the type of player that you need in Meyer's offense. Some people call it the Percy Harvin role. But it's really the Ted Ginn Jr. role at Ohio State.
They can all take their 5th star and shove it...put those 312 yds in your bowl and smoke it
"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick
In other news, Corn Elder is killing it. (Currently on espnu) has 4 tds already. The one i saw was unbelievable.
Marshall went into beast mode last night. Can't wait till he suits up for OSU next year!
Corn Elder is a sweet name.
@BuckeyeJason ... You still play those guys as you normally would Meyer has never really had a bell cow back, I doubt if he starts one now, although its possible ...
@bama I like your points and it would be an interesting thing to experiment with, but here's a comparison between Elliott and Marshall.
Similar: Both thick through the legs, good lateral movement/stopping and starting. They both run in the 4.4 range, and they both have a nose for open space and devastating cut moves.
But here's where the difference lies. Elliott is a stud with creating momentum, making guys miss, and flat out burning. He has great hands out of the backfield, and has the ability that Marshall rarely utilizes of getting out to edge on run plays, and in the flat on non blocking pass options.
Marshall is more of a downfield runner, and he's larger and more powerful. We saw him outmuscle DBs at the Nike camps, his route running is steadily improving, and in a spread offense, that ability to break tackles can still be utilized, because he will take short pitches and handoffs.
I'd be more inclined to agree with you if we only had Marshall, without Elliott. But Elliott is your prototypical spread RB to offset the big guys, and Marshall will excel as a pivot player.
He won't be used as a running back as long as we have Braxton or a guy like JT Barrett running the QB. Urban wants to have both a big back and a small back to run the read option. If he has a bigger power running QB (a la Tebow) he'll use a smaller back for the threat of outside runs and vice versa (a la Braxton/Carlos Hyde). Marshall will be used like Harvin, get him the ball in open space out wide and also run some misdirection running plays for him. That's where he should be used.
I think with Elliott they'll hang some weight on him first of all, but secondly I don't think he's going to be used as an everydown back like a Carlos Hyde either...Moreso of a versatile flex type guy that will be used out of the backfield quite a bit as well. Marshall is just so good at making a definitive hard cut, breaking a tackle and going. I don't see him breaking as many tackles between the OTs at the next level though. I see him breaking tackles of DBs and making definitive cuts with his acceleration to beat LBs and safeties in the open field.
@Buck I.8 ... Don't get me wrong I love E.Elliot, and I agree completely with everything you said as well. I just like the scheme versatility J.Marshall would bring the offense, I guess I just see him out growing the position. If we're trying to speed things up like Oregon you have to have very versatile athletes to minimize subs. I can't wait to see this offense in a couple of years. In a couple more seasons we'll have the ability to go from the Double tight, I-formation to 5-Wide, without making a single substitution. There isn't a defense in ANY conference with the ability to defend that type of versatility. Just that idea alone gets me super excited. I do understand your point of view/logic on this matter as well. I don't dispute it either.
Hey man, I love an argument that hinges on how dangerous this offense can be. I hope we get to see both scenarios play out, because we'll definitely see some crazy scoring potential
JMar and EZ E!
Can't wait for him to get here. He'll be able to fill that hybrid role perfectly.
You have to remember that Harvin had more carries than catches at Florida.
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