1) Winfield (may be my favorite Buckeye ever)
2) Springs
3) Jenkins
My dad said Neal Colzie (beyomd my day) was darn good and honorable mention to Chris Gamble, for what he did vs. Andre Johnson in the 2002 BCS game alone.
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1 springs
2 winfield
3 clements
4 gamble
5 jenkins
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1. Malcolm Jenkins
2. Chris Gamble
3. Chimdi Chekwa
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Chekwa? Really?
Chekwa was decent his senior year but drove me mad his previous three. Mr. Pass Interference in my opinion.
Winfield is my clear cut #1. It's not even close. None of the others could provide run support like he did in addition to being straight up lockdown in coverage.
After that, I'd probably take Jenkins over Springs but just by a nose.
Yes and Yes.
since i cannot upvote you
~Because we couldn't go for three~
Agreed. Completely..
1. Jenkins
2. Winfield
3.Springs
4.Gamble
Out of the backs/safities Mike Doss Probably all time favorite
Winfield
Springs
Gamble
Clements
Jenkins
I grew up in Akron when Winfield was playing HSFB at Garfield. They interviewed one of the other City Series coaches during his senior year (I want to say he played safety in high school, in addition to RB). The reporter asked him about Winfield's defense and he said something along the lines of "I told my QB to figure out which side of the field he was playing before the snap. Then throw the ball to the other side, regardless of how covered the guy was. Every time we threw it to his side, he either intercepted it and returned it or our WR got injured."
So I know my pick is a bit homer, but I still love Winfield.
When told OSU set school record for 50+ games this year, UFM said "That's good. We're gonna break that next year."
Number 1 is easily Antoine Winfield. Not close for me, either
2. Shawn Springs
3. Malcolm Jenkins
Winfield
Springs
Gamble
Jenkins
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Same as above ^^^^OSUbias with Gamble and Jenkins switched.
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I'm a bit of a Gamble homer...
1A) Winfield
1B) Gamble
2) Jenkins
3) Travis Howard ;)
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winfield and then it's everybody else
sfgoods
Winfield may be one of the best pure football players we have ever seen. Blanket cover defender, second to none tackler, and hit like a freight train. I think it was the '98 Michigan game, the year Woodson won the Heisman. Winfield was all over the place. Keith Jackson and Bob Griese were doing the game. Griese was all over him. And Jackson, in vintage form at one point said somethng like "and there's Winfield again. Boy, give me 11 of him and I'll take ya out in the parking lot".
I have so many fond memories of Winfield. He made a play on punt coverage his freshman year where he caught the ball over his shoulder looking over his head, right at the goalline. Then had the presence of mind to basically reverse jam it back over his head before he fell into the endzone. Someone else downed it (or it rolled dead, I forget) at like the .25 yard line. Spectacular.
When told OSU set school record for 50+ games this year, UFM said "That's good. We're gonna break that next year."
Keep Calm and Ignore the Trolls.
Winfield and then Gamble. Gamble was fun to watch. He became one of my favorite Buckeye's because he played both sides of the ball and was good at both. I liked the film they would show at the stadium of him picking up trash and selling concessions and doing "everything" around the stadium. The interception return against State Penn was a thing of beauty.
Finally Nate Clements getting some love!
But personally for me it's...
1. Malcolm Jenkins
2. Chris Gamble
3. Dustin Fox
4. Antoine Winfield
5. Nate Clements
Gamble. He shut down his side of the field and was a great 2 way player. The others are great and Winfield overall, but when Gamble shutdown Andre Johnson the way he did, that was it for me. Got his jersey and all!
Now granted it did help having Doss, probably the all time best DB in the past 20 years! My all-time favorite safety is Kurt Coleman. He is undersized and probably had half the talent of most DBs, but he played his butt off and made opponents hurt when they made the mistake of coming over the middle.
I like Coleman as well, I'm kind of surprised more haven't mentioned him.
He was a Safety not a CB
Thanks, for some reason I was thinking DBs and not strictly CBs.
1)Winfield
2) Jenkins
3) Gamble
4) Doss
5) Clements
"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."
It's a testament to the knowledge of the 11W fanbase that Winfield is the favorite.
Like so many others, I remember what a beast he was in run-defense. The dude hit harder than safeties, and wrapped up with great form. He was great in pass coverage, but it was pure joy watching that guy come up to make the stick. Pound for pound one of the toughest guys I've ever seen play football (at any level).
And he was a monster in that '97 Michigan game.
How firm they friendship...
I was at that game, and even as a Michigan fan I was very impressed with him. He was probably the best player on the field that day for either team, even though Woodson got more press for making a couple game-breaking plays. Winfield made much more of an impression on me live than Springs did.
60% of the time it works.....every time
Winfield, duh...
I really LIKED Doss, not saying he is second best.Fox third, again, not saying he is better than the rest.
Jenkins
EDIT: Oops, I was thinking DB's...
@Steensn, I would have included Doss and Coleman and Whitner if we were allowed, he just asked about CB's though
When told OSU set school record for 50+ games this year, UFM said "That's good. We're gonna break that next year."
Best DB?
Before my time (although I remember he was with the Raiders), but Jack Tatum, The Assassin.
The best CB is Winfield, 100+ tackles his senior season? That's just astonishing for a corner, especially with being behind a quality front seven like the '98 defense had.
"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes
Best CB. Tatum was a S. +1 for Winfield.
Jack Tatum was a CB in college...-1 for not doing your research before correcting people. Malcolm Jenkins also a CB in college and a S in the NFL.
"Anything less than flagrant is just playing grab ass!"
+1 for owning the -1
"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."
The alignment was different, but Tatum played more of a Star. If anything, the position was closer to LB than CB
Don't know where they ranks in terms of ability, but my favorites are:
1. Antoine Winfield
2. Malcolm Jenkins
3. Antonio Smith
4. Shawn Springs
5. Dustin Fox and Chris Gamble tandem
Winfield is my favorite, but I think Springs had the most ability (best pure corner). Love Antonio Smith because he was originally a walk-on and became a solid starter. Fox and Gamble go together for me because they were the starting corners for our National Championship team of 2002. And Jenkins was just a bad dude.
1.Howard island
2. Eugene Clifford
3. James Scott
4. Dominick Clark
5. Chimdi Buckwa
Run_Fido's favorite word is strawman.
Buckeye Jason, if we were doing Safeties, you could have had Jamario O'Neal ... and 2 of my "favorites" Donnie Nickey and Brandon Mitchell ... Oh Lord.
Ashton Youboty, because he was actually a really cool guy and I beat him in Wii tennis. If anyone remembers former WR in the 03 class Devin Jordan, I met him too and he used to get made fun of mercilessly just for about anything. I guess he was "that guy" in the group.
I don't understand why people think Chekwa was any good? I swear every time you watch him in coverages, he always has his head turned away from the ball! I don't know how many times I saw the other team's Qb see this and take advantage of it for a pass interference call. Any time we were called for pass interference when he played, you could almost bet it was always on Chekwa because he wouldn't look back at the ball before he got to the reciever!
Thanks for saving me the time of writing that.
as of now, Roby reminds me of former OSU CB Derek Ross. You can see the talent and potential there. Ross, however left for the pro's early, wasn't ready, and flamed out of the NFL later to go to prison.
Hopefully Roby puts the work in, isn't rushed into having to be be the next Buckeye NFL DB, and allows himself to be coached to get better. After watching Roby be the one Buckeye defender chasing Miami Hurricane players down from behind in last year's game, I thought he had the ability to be an amazing player.
#1 Chimidi Chekwa
#2 Malcolm "Old man" Jenkins
#3 C.J. Barnett
F--- Michigan!
this chekwa talk is a joke correct? the trolliing sure is up nowadays around these parts
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
1) Winfield
2) Malcom -the blanket- Jenkins
3) Springs
4) wish Doss could have been on this list.... His "I am coming back for my senior year" plus the tears press conference made me jump off my couch in joy.
~Because we couldn't go for three~
Safeties
1. Jamario o'neil
2. Corey Brown
3. Anderson Russell
4. Anthony Gonzalez
5.Robo
Run_Fido's favorite word is strawman.
Hop Cassady by far the best I ever saw.GO BUCKS!
I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.
Winfield by far, springs distant second. Gamble gets honorable mention for nat champ game.
Chekwa is not a joke. He is an aboslute beast.
F--- Michigan!
Charles WoodsonLeon Hall
Marlin Jackson
meh, nevermind
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
Leon "burnt by Ted Ginn" Hall?
"Anything less than flagrant is just playing grab ass!"
I thought about that a lot at the time too, but then realized it must have been a problem with Michigan's safeties in hindsight. Only reason I say that is because look at what has happened to both Hall and Ginn since they got to the NFL. Hall has been a pretty high quality CB while Ginn has been primarily a return man with speed. It's not like Hall got any faster between college and the pros.....he probably just has more competent safety support around him now to protect against the deep ball. And that was pretty much Ginn's main trick as a receiver in college - use the speed to get by the CB and hope that most teams wouldn't have good safety support to stop him. Once he got to the NFL, that was tougher to do for him as a WR.
60% of the time it works.....every time
Can't really disagree with the assessment of Ginn, but I can't complain about the results he got us in college either
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
You're right, the results in college for him were excellent. But it just goes to show you how what truly goes into making an elite defense. Michigan's 2006 defense had some high caliber NFL prospects (Woodley and Hall, plus future NFL'ers in Crable, Trent and Branch) but OSU still shredded them because the weak links on the unit (safeties, nickel DB) were subpar.
60% of the time it works.....every time
Antonio Smith is a personal favorite, as a walk on who became a starter. Plus, he was a Mechanical Engineering major.
Antoine Winfield - Far & away my fav, for a guy that was what... 5'8"?, he'd sure lay some guys out coming up on run support...
Shawn Springs
Nate Clements
Chekwa would not even be in my top 10. Nice player, but one of those that succeeded at a young age and leveled off to mediocrity. Ask Marvin McNutt and Nick Toon how much they enjoyed matching up with him. Barnett is a Safety, and still does not make any list.
1. Winfield - would take winfield over all three below combined.
2. Springs
3. Clements
4. Gamble - as much as I loved him can't go any higher. I still think about this play every year the Wisconsin game rolls around. But otherwise was as gifted as the two ahead of him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4sLYNI2PLg&playnext=1&list=PL5262F409F1E...
Winfield by far is my #1
Jenkins #2
Springs #3
Howard#4
Clement#5
wow..forgot about that one, GBM
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
I can't understand how Chekwa is being mentioned at all. He wasn't Marlon Kerner horrible but he's not even top 10. His ball skills were terrible. He frequently had no idea the ball was even in the air.
I think maybe its just fun to type Chekwa.
~Because we couldn't go for three~
I'm with you- I never thought Chekwa was as good as people gave him credit for. He never seemed to know where the ball was.
THANK YOU CHRIS!!!! I'm glad someone else saw all the times the man never looked back for the ball!!!
that's what i was going with. I feel like every big play given up a couple of years ago, i just knew without the review it was going to be him getting beat
"Winter is coming" - Urban Meyer
Malcolm for the all out passion he had. Winfield for the monster hitter he was...especially for such a small guy.
Chekwa was an absolute monster!! but clearly not in a top 5 or 10 or anything like that still awesome though what about ahmed plummer and donte whitner though? I pretty much agree with everyone else's list but plummer and whitner were two I usually mention when I'm explaining how OSU is without a doubt Cornerback U. As well as tailback linebacker and wide receiver U ehh who am I kidding we're everything U
"I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault."
--Jack Tatum
Winfield was the best. Followed by Springs, Colzie and Jenkins (close - could go either way)
No love for Ahmed Plummer and not much for Nate?
I would take Yabouty over Chekwa, any day. And that's saying something
Whitner was a safety.
1. Winfield
2. Springs
3. Clements
4. Gamble
I remember when Winfield played and man it seemed like he was in on every tackle. We also had Winfield Garnett on the D Line, who wasn't a half bad college player. Springs was wonderful, but Gamble was a little more fun to watch. Clements should be on a lot more lists in my own opinion.
I don't think that Chekwa should be on any of these lists either, but other than his awful ball skills, he could run with and mirror anybody. He was pretty good and would be high on a list of the last decade. If you go last thirty years, then maybe not, but try naming five guys better than him since 2000.
1 Shawn Springs
2 Antoine Windfield
3 Malcolm Jenkins
4 Bradley Roby
5 Cam Burrows
6 Eli Apple
Top corners in the last 10 years:
1.Jenkins
2.Gamble
3.Chekwa
4.Youboty
5. A.Smith/Washington/Torrence
Run_Fido's favorite word is strawman.
Bumping this one, because even though he has some unfinished business, it appears that what Roby wants, Roby gets.
Shawn Springs.
"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." Charlton Heston(1924-2008)
I know Winfield and Clements deserve lots of love, particularly given the NFL careers, but I'm a big Gamble fan. He just made so many plays. However, my one complaint with Gamble is this: 2003; Camp Randall; no safety help; Lee Evans; winning streak on the line; peaks into the backfield guessing run; touchdown. I still remember being so inconsolable in my anger when that happened. I knew I had to get my fandom under control.
Was at that game at Camp Randall. Robert Reynolds choke hold. Pissed on with 50 degree rain til half. Ugh.
Forgot about the choke....crazy
It was a Wisky player at Camp Randall. Small part of me understands.
That was 2003. Was also the 1st game we had lost since 2001.
I posted vid from that play up above somewhere. Gamble wasn't supporting the run, was literally turned into a 12 year old pop warner player biting on an out & up. Either way awful awful memory and neither of us should of brought it up. Side note, not supporting watching that video either though as I just did again and my stomach is now in naughts.
Any conversation about the best OSU corners in recent memory has to start with antoine winfield. Was a complete corner in every way. Coverage, tackling, run support...you got it all from antoine. After that...you can throw guys like nate clements, malcolm jenkins, ahmed plummer, chris gamble,shawn springs into the dogpile and any one of them would be solidly in the top tier of buckeye corners. Then you get to the guys like dustin fox, derek ross, ty howard, antonio smith...guys who were solid players. Chimdi chekwa seems to be a pretty sore subject for some people. But his effort in the sugar bowl against arkansas gives him a pass in my book. Dude was playing well, and made a hell of play on the ball when he broke his arm. But he isn't in the discussion as far as the guys I mentioned earlier. Just remember the feeling I had when I watched his arm bend the wrong way...just a horrible way to end your career.
Here's a name I have yet to hear..Mike Sensibaugh who i believe still holds the single season record for interceptions as well as career interceptions with 9 and 22 respectively
Battles are sometimes won by generals; wars are nearly always won by sergeants and privates. Football is no different, the guys down in the trenches win the games, not the coach.
Nice......+1 for the history.
Sensibaugh actually shares the single season record of 9 with Craig (son of Hopalong) Cassady. He snagged nine picks in 1975.
"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes
Sensibaugh was great (safety) as was Bruce Ruhl about 5 years later
WINFIELD. I was crushed when the Vikings did not re-sign him. He still has it.
I'll go:
1. Winfield
2. Jenkins
3. Howard
4. Clements
5. Doss (more S, but still a DB)
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Winfield
Tim Fox
not Dustin Fox
1. Antoine Winfield (didn't he win the Thorpe with 0 interceptions? Blanket corner. Huge hitter. Sure tackler)
2. Shawn Springs
3. Malcolm Jenkins
4. Chris Gamble
5. Antonio Smith. That guy came out of nowhere and had an outstanding senior year with less-than-elite skills. He had good anticipation and was a consistent player.
1a. Winfield
1b. Jenkins
2. Springs
3. Gamble
4. Clements
5. Plummer
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The post was "favorite" not "best." And I'm going to foul it up like others and list a couple of safeties. Damon Moore and...wait for it...Chico Nelson, who if I remember correctly, was the one who gave Elvis "I'd like to buy a vowel" Grbac the bloody lip in the 13-13 tie back in the early 90's.
Jenkins and Antonio Smith for covering the spread against Penn State in 2006! $$$$
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1. Antoine Winfield (made me want to play corner growing up playing football)
2. Chris Gamble (Our two way beast)
3. Ahmed Plummer (was fan of his and the 49ers)
4. Malcolm Jenkins (excellent awareness, position, & technique)
5. Bradley Roby (before it's all said & done, his style of play, desire to be great, & leadership may move him up to #3 on this list for me.)
"Leave...Your...Mark..."
I'm a Roby Top 5 believer but unless he changes his mind and stays 2 more years I can't make him a top 3 pick. I think the lack of exceptionally great CB's in the last few years have us over hyping him a tad bit along with my own personal nostalgia from some of my favorite buckeye teams/players.
There has not been another athlete at tOSU in the mold of Chris Gamble in the last 15 years. We have a lot of great ones but he is the greatest in my opinion. Pure CB/DB goes to Winfield of course.
IMO Winfield is # 1 but it's a lot closer for me than a lot of people are saying. Chris Gamble was an absolute machine and a key ingredient to our last Crystal Football team, something that none of the other corners mentioned can say, unfortunately. Take a look at this link and it makes you realize just what he did. I apologize in advance for the ESPN link, but 11W didn't exist back then so no downvotes please.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/magazine/archives/news/story?page=magazine-20030106-article5&src=mobile
An excerpt:
"Ohio State's Chris Gamble doesn't take plays off. Heck, the Buckeye coaches don't even let the 6'2", 180-pound sophomore leave the field. Coach Jim Tressel has made Gamble major-college football's truest two-way player in nearly 40 years. Not since the days before most American homes had television, before the Miami Hurricanes had black players, before JoePa had won a game, has anyone logged as many minutes as Ohio State's interception-grabbing wideout-or is it pass-catching corner?
Of course, other guys have pulled occasional double duty. Deion Sanders and Charles Woodson dabbled as two-way players, spicing up the offense every few series. Champ Bailey was a fulltime corner and caught 47 passes as a senior at Georgia, but even he wasn't asked to endure the gut-busting workload that Gamble has shouldered for Ohio State this year.
Just look at what Gamble did in the Buckeyes' overtime win at Illinois. Even though the box score tells us he had just one catch for 14 yards, three tackles and three punt returns for 31 yards, the game film tells a different story. Over the course of a three-hour 23-minute nail-biter, Gamble was on the field for 130 of the game's 146 plays. Gamble the cornerback took away two-thirds of the field from the Illini offense; Gamble the wideout continually extended the Illini defense. His two-way totals detail a workout of Olympic proportions: 35 10-yard sprints, 38 15-yard sprints, 25 20-yard sprints, 11 25-yard sprints, 6 40-yard sprints. Gamble's day amounts to almost a mile-and-a-quarter of sprinting. The World's Fastest Man, Tim Montgomery, says his most grueling workout is a regimen of nine 90-meter dashes, which covers only a half-mile. To put Gamble's day into sharper context, he covered nearly the same distance that the field runs during the Kentucky Derby-and he was running backward half the time."
When you consider that we was playing 100+ plays almost every game, most of the time against the other team's best player 1-on-1, it's incredible the type of athlete he was. So here's my top 5:
Winfield
Gamble
Springs
Jenkins
Plummer
Winfield
Danger is real. Fear is a choice.
Winfield by a mile. I think what separates him from the group is his fearless tackling. His ability to wrap up the opponents legs is legendary.
Honorable mention goes to Braylon Edwards. He had a knack for breaking up 4 down and 1 passes to himself!
There is a lot of truth in this comment! Priceless
1. Winfield
2. Springs
3. Clements
4. Jenkins
5. Gamble
I believe Roby is right there. A killer year from him and he's definitely bumping Gamble for me.
Dustin Fox because of how unique he was
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Your name becomes you, well done.
"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes
Antoine Winfield.... The rest.