Eleven Warriors

^tough to argue with that though

Alabama wins by 20 plus. They Knock Robinson out for most of the season. Scums goes 6-6.

I hope the stadium implodes... No more M!chigan, no more Alabama, and no more Jerry World.

I wanna see someone run up behind Robinson and tackle him by his stupid ponytail and then someone come from the front and smack him in the mouth!....BWAHAHA

Roll Tide.

Break Robinson.

703Buckeye has the best solution.  But since JerryWorld implosion is unlikely, I have to agree with J.Mo.  As fun as it would be to crush the national title hopes of an undefeated Wolverine team in the Shoe, I wouldn't be able to take the Meatchicken fans crowing for the 10 weeks leading up to it.  I can't bring myself to say "roll tide" (without gagging), but I will enthusiastically say, "Michigan Sucks!  Screw Blue!"

Regarding the game, Bama has the best O line in CFB next year.  They will control the clock, drive the field, grind michigan to dust in the trenches, and end up scoring between 30-40 pts.  Bama also has the edge in the trenches on D.  Bama will be green in the secondary, but DRob doesn't have the accuracy to take advantage of it. DRob might break a run or two but they won't be able to sustain any offense beyond that.  Bama wins by 14+.

Regarding who I want to win, are you kidding me? In CFB, perception becomes reality.  Hoke is already cashing in on recruiting by convincing prospects the michigan is on the upswing.  A win over Bama helps them on the recruiting trail, and we go head-to-head with michigan in recruiting battles more often than we do with Bama.

ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cant stand michigan, my hope is they go 0-12 this year. well actually every year. living in SEC  country can be tough on a buckeye fan, but still, i hate michigan that much and more. ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 63 to nothing in favor of the tide, would be almost pleasing, almost. 84 to nothing would be real nice. GO BAMA!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know man, 703's stadium implosion is best, but I would much rather deal with scUM fans on cloud nine for the whole season if it means they fall from a cloud instead of already standing in the sewer that is the "sun" and "bleu" colored campus in Anne Arbor.

Let's ask the scUM fans that we (well, some don't) are on good enough terms to engage in civil dialogue with.  

Hail?  Where are you man?  Which would hurt worse, a loss in the shoe as an undefeated national title contender, or coming in 5-6 and coming out 5-7?

He may be the only one with the real answer.

I watched Michigan's spring game. They are not impressive. I think Bama takes them by 30 or more

The arrogant fans of that team would be so energized they would all be here starting threads about their team. Alabama will handle them easily. They have the speed to stop Robinsons big runs. Stop Robinsons big runs you stop them. Roll Tide by at least 3 tds.

Go B1G.

If not anything else, it will at least be entertaining as Hell.  Seeing college football's most electrifying playmaker up against the nation's most vaunted D...it should be a treat.

As a general rule, I never root for Michigan. But I am torn because, as a general rule, I also never root for an SEC team. So I think I have no other choice and I will be rooting for them both to lose...

tough to say which scenario i want to happen.  but i think if by some miracle michigan stomps bama, they go undefeated until the game.  and if they're still the same team by season's end that beat alabama decisively (no big injuries or anything) then i think we could be in A LOT of trouble.  

i think our defense is going to be nasty soon, but we're not there yet.  if alabama can't manage to contain denard, we won't either.  then it'll be up to braxton to keep pace with scUM's scoring.  definitely doable, but not a given.  unlike some fans here, i'm optimistic, but not to the point of idiocy.  to think that there will be no growing pains, hiccups, injuries, or other unexpected issues is a bit unrealistic.  there's a reason only 1-2 teams in the entire country go undefeated per year.

both OSU and scUM are on their way back to the top for sure.  scUM hasn't been relevant since 06-07, and OSU just had the one down year, but the B1G is going back to the Big 2, little 10 (sorry crybaby brett and dantonio)

For all those people that complain how pathetic it is to hear our buck-toothed southern neighbors strike up the chant of "SEC SEC."  Just consider how much more pathetic a chant of "Boo SEC, Boo SEC" would sound.   My allegiance is to the Buckeyes not the Big 10 11 12 10, and my rival is that team up north, not the conference of those who still swear allegiance to Jefferson Davis.

No, if they go 11-1, they still go to the conference championship game, and then in typical UM fashion, they will take that as a huge victory because despite their lack of successes, they are pompous douchebags about the ones they do have.

So go Bama, I hope Um goes 0-12, and I'll be reading mgoblog joyously for months.

Some of you are out of line. The Big 10 has been embarresed by the SEC in the past. I hope it is close and Bama wins. I dont want another National Championship game fiasco, where one team takes a shit on the field. 

im hoping for 45-0 Bama

Don't get caught up in this B1G vs. SEC bullshit!  We, as fans of tOSU, are above that.  Since when have we beat the B1G drum?  We don't.  So fuck AACC.  I'm no fan of Saban, but he is heads and shoulders better than Flounder as a coach.  He will have his young team ready to go.  I would like to see the score reach triple digits on 'Bama's side of the board.  Detard and his nonshoelace tying, pretend eating ass needs to be humiliated on a national stage.  I also don't want to see TSUN in the B1G championship game until we are.

ESPN and the national media won't give the B1G credit for beating Bama.  They'll make excuses until the cows come home about Bama's youth and inexperience.  It won't hurt their national aspirations at all.  It WILL make life in Northwest Ohio unbearable for those of us that live here.  The trolls of the Sun and Poo will be out in full force yapping about their big win.  So no, rooting for those skunk bears is not an option.  There is no team on the planet that I dislike more than AACC.  I root against them every time they play.

For the people hoping Michigan gets killed, stop being morons.  The fact is, if the Big Ten gets demolished in marquee games, it effects the entire conference negatively. It will make recruiting more difficult for the entire conferece and willl effect both preseason and BCS rankings for the entire conferece.  For example, look at Texas A&M and Missouri.  Both are having great recruiting success thus far - much better than usual.  Why?  Because players want to play in the very-strong SEC, not the Big 12.  

@HAIL - You're absolutely right, but it's worth bearing in mind that we were the cream of the B1G, and our marquee losses were against their best teams.  The B1G has mainly played SEC teams through bowl games, which try to match up teams of similar strength.  As much as it pains me to say, we couldn't match up to the SEC's best in '06 or '07--and no one has been able to since then. After you take away those elite two teams, the middle and bottom tiers of the SEC are remarkably similar to the other conferences; hence the B1G's record of not-sucking-against-the-SEC-outside-of-OSU.  We'll always have that vacated telling night in New Orleans, though.

Point is with 'Bama, now Michigan's the B1G torch-bearer going up against the SEC elite.  I'm kind of ambivalent to the outcome, since I have a hard time rooting for UM, but a 'Bama loss eliminates them (mostly) from National Title contention (and also makes the SEC look mortal, for once; so much of their strength is derived from marquee out-of-conference dominance).  I'll probably be slightly pulling for UM, since I'm ready to see Robespierre's the SEC's Reign of Terror end.

Hodge: besides, New Orleans proved the point, even if the official result was vacated.

Their argument was always, "y'all can't hang with the SEC. Too much speeeeeeed!"

It was not, "even if y'all beat the SEC, your victory will get vacated!"

Actually Hail, I believe the NCAA did end up counting the WMU game.

^ Another shortsighted opinion.

I mean I understand the hatred for UM, but why do you hate them? Because of the rivalry. Why is it such a grand rivalry??? Because both teams are nationally relevant and have accounted for more B10 championships than the rest of the schools combined(I may be off on that). If UM, or OSU for that matter Hail, enter the game at roughly .500 what makes the game special anymore? Eventually the game loses its luster and just becomes another team on our schedule. I for one don't want this game to turn into an MSU or Purdue type game. Personally, it wasn't nearly as fulfilling beating up on the terrible Michigan teams as it is when they are good and have something to play for(05, 06, 07 come to mind). And whether some of you realize it or not, we need ALL B10 teams to win their marquee non-conf game so that if/when we beat them it helps our SOS...which is now a component of the new playoff system.

I agree with Cincy, a rivalry is not between a team that stinks on ice and a powerhouse.  It only matters if both teams are worth a damn.  I hope that we beat the piss out of them every year, but I hope that they are good when we do it.  

For Buckeye fans there's nothing gained by Michigan beating Alabama.  Doesn't matter what the SOS is in the B1G since Ohio State can't play in the post season anyway.  It has no impact on OHio State, so with that said, I always want Michigan to lose.  One thing that would be fun is if Michigan were undefeated coming to the shoe and we spoil that National Title aspirations, but with the Conference championship game to follow, they still have time to make up some ground and find themselves in the BCS title game.  Plus, they aren't going undefeated anyway. 

To put the game in perspective, one need only look at the Sugar Bowl.  The vaunted Um offense only managed a paltry 184 yards against a VT team that had at best an average defense last season.  For this reason, despite only 5 returning starters, I still feel Alabama will be far superior from a talent base than UM.

Now there are always things that can equalize talent, penalties, turnovers, Punt passes for tds, etc.  But strictly on paper I look for Alabama to still have numerous advantages.

That said, I will always root for the B1G in all out of conference games.  It was how I was raised.  So let's go kick some Tide Butt!

@WOODYSGLASSES- Nice to see someone on htis post with my opinion and what I can't beleive would even be debatable. I'm not actually gonna cheer for UM to beat Bama but I want them to win for the Big 10.  The bigger picture here is that a spotlight game like this is just as big for UM as it is Big 10.  Our conference reputation is in the dumps and a win like this helps every team in the Big 10. I would much much rather have an 11-0 UM coming into The Shoe than a 0-11 team, it makes that OSU win look a heck of a lot better. I think there is a line between hatred for UM and common sense! Food for thought- Remember that Woody and Bo created this rivalry and although Woody HATED Michigan and BO hated OSU at the end of the day these guys could talk on the phone and were actually friends. 

Thumbs Up for Adamant73...

The Big Ten needs to start showing well against the SEC, not just for this year, but for next year and the year after. It effects the perception of OSU and therefore it can negatively effect OSU now and in the future. I root for:

1) OSU to win

2) Anything that helps OSU in the standings

3) Big Ten

4) SEC to lose...

The UM and OSU rivalry is built on both teams being national title contenders. 10 more years of the last decade and the rivalry goes the way of UM vs. App State or UM vs Ohio. Good tough rivalries, but not that big nationally...

(See what I did just there?)

I think with the recent additions to the SEC, our overall record against them is pretty good, just not in bowls

ROLL TIDE!

You realize that if Michigan wins against Alabama, we'll be hearing it from their fans about how "they" can beat the SEC and we cant! Hail already said it and the game hasn't even been played yet! I realize he didn't mean it snotty but he did say it. He's not even one of their jerk fans so imagine when it does happen. I'm not going to say, "Roll the Charmin" but I do hope Alabama wins. Yes that can affect the perception of the B1G or whatever we call ourselves now. But beating Alabama can also boost Michigan in the eyes of the recruits so it's 6 to 1 half a dozen of the other in terms of who it hurts.

I guess some of you cats are just more open minded, enlightened, and the can't we all just get along types lol...so you continue to look down your noses at guys like me who won't root for a team that I have pure (sports) hatred for (along with the Steelers, heat, red sox, art model, and cowboys).. I have nothing against Saban or Bama or the backwards SEC chanting fools (I always wonder does a vandy football fan really feel good about watching a team that kicks their butt, then win the title and they become overwhelmed by SEC pride and start chanting SEC? GTHOH!!...I have no love for my rivals and I'm fine with that, if that makes me not in the smart fan elitest crew, or a dumb fan then fine I've been called worse in my lfe....oh yeah Roll Tide!

Ummm...head to head doesn't really matter to them. Have you heard them running their mouths about how they beat us last year? I mean did they even watch the game? There was easily 3 scores that Miller missed his recievers on that should have won us the game! Yet there they are running their mouths acting like they've never been there before and "WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE CLASSLESS ONES" according to them. I don't know about you but I enjoy watching Michigan get beat by teams like Appalachian State and Toledo and then kicking them when they are down come November. It STILL to this day pisses me off watching that pony tailed freak Robinson doing his stupid cereal bowl antics after they would score. Yet somehow our kids get called for unsportsmanlike behavior for putting up a block 'O on their gloves? They don't get called for what Robinson did? "Give it to Mikey, he'll eat anything!" Well I hope our guys and Alabama feed him some turf this season! No in fact, I hope Alabama breaks his stupid legs and we don't even have to play him so I don't have to watch him on Sportscenter!

I should probably just leave it alone, but this might create enough dialogue to get me through this slow work day.  [With the exception of the RichRod years] The Game is THE GAME and records don't matter.  Last year was a perfect example.  Yes, Braxton overthrew Posey 2 or 3 times for scores, but how many of those did  you come away with zero points (obviously the final drive, but I don't remember the other two)?  If you to say "we would've won if...," then Michigan fans can say the same about the bad snap on the punt, Denard's fumble, and the bogus inconclusive review that took away the TD that would've sealed it.  Even if everything else happened the same and Posey scores on at the end, there still would've been 1:30 left on the clock for Michigan to get into FG range.

I don't think most Michigan fans would say OSU can't beat SEC teams; they just haven't really done that much.  But, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of the stipulations of being a Buckeye or Wolverine is that you must have an arsenal of smack talk about the other schools embarassments and shortcomings (i.e. App St, Toledo, RichRod, tatgate, clarett, the punch, win streaks, titles, awards, and many more).  In regards to Michigan fans talking smack about beating OSU this year---we haven't done it in 7 years.  That was a huge monkey off our back regardless what your record or coaching situation was.

I agree, but my buddies here in Ohio still talked smack each and every year for all 7 years, it just mellowed out a little at the end.  I definitely wasn't cocky after this year.  On the 3 1/2 drive home, my buddy and I were disappointed because it was so close and we were sweating at the end.  I swear it felt like we lost, so we kept saying after ever comment "but at least we won..."

Highball why don't you just sit the next couple plays out bud.

Hmmm....I've given your suggestion about >-< that much consideration....sorry, not gonna do it! There was nothing wrong with my opinion in the first place. I don't like Michigan. Never have, never will. I didn't say anything else about Cincy's post. I agree with what he said about the rivalry not counting if it hadn't been for the 10 year war. I don't however agree with his comment about me wanting someone to actually get hurt. It's a simple misunderstanding is all. No hard feelings.

@RickB25 Well said.  It's just a matter of the lesser evil and there are always going to be exceptions.  I think you're right, but I doubt that Alabama fans will be rooting for Auburn to beat anyone, and vice versa.  That rivalry is right behind ours, IMO, but they have more lunatic fans that frankly scare me at times.  OSU and Michigan fans are more levelheaded, for the most part.

Hodge, you may be the first OSU fan I've ever heard or read to acknowledge that OSU and Michigan played football before Woody started coaching and admitted that it actually meant something.  Bravo.

And nice post, too.  I hadn't heard about the flowers and train ride before.  Very interesting, indeed.

@HAIL - I think a lot of it comes with the fact that we won more games from 1950-2000 than anyone else (ironically, didn't Michigan win more games from 1900-1950 than anyone else?), but so much of that was due to those formative years.  Hell, Chic Harley was the reason Ohio Stadium was built; and it was on his back that we were delivered our first win over Michigan--in 1919, 22 years after the first game was played!

@CINCY - Yeah, I watch that documentary every year before The Game; I tear up every time haha.

^^^Someone else mentioned this yesterday, look up Vtechs rankings. I believe they were in the top 10-15 in the major categories. I wouldn't call that mediocre.

^....Absolutely!!! Roll Charmin!

And if your really an Ohio State fan, you know all that stuff about the rivalry. Facts like Ohio States first game was in Delaware Ohio against Ohio Weslyan which Ohio State won. Ohio States first home game was against Wooster which Ohio State lost 64 to nothing..

Over the next eight years, under a number of coaches, the team played to a cumulative record of 31 wins, 39 losses, and 2 ties. The first game against the Michigan, in Ann Arbor, was a 34-0 loss in 1897.

Smith - You're going to "disrespectively" disagree?? Way to be mature about it. As I, and others, have said...The Game does always matter. But it only "always matters" because neither team has had a sustained period of mediocrity. If UM had 20 years of sub .500 football you better believe the game would begin to lose some of it's luster and would no longer be THE Game. It's also funny that you quote Woody as he did indeed have an intense hatred for UM. He also respected them and one of his best friends was this guy you may have heard of...Bo Schembechler(sp).

How am I stirring the pot? Did I "disrespectfully" disagree with anyone as another poster did? Others have posted opinions, as have I. Why is it ok for you to call out fans who don't agree with you, yet I can't? Please explain.

Look, maybe we both just need to keep our comments to a general audience. That way it doesn't appear like we are maybe "picking" on someone in particular. Again, no hard feelings!

I will NEVER root for Michigan and I dont care who they play! Seeing them get pounded into oblivion is almost as good as seeing OSU run up and down the field on them! I hate scUM with every ounce of blood in my body. As far as the SEC goes, they are the best conference right now and have every right to brag until someone knocks them off the top. I would rather OSU pound them (SEC) out in a future bowl game than see a Denard Robinson lead scUM team get a boost of confidence by beating them. The perception of the B1G will only be changed once we (primarily OSU) starting winning big time bowl games against the SEC. Michigan beating Bama will do nothing. People will just make excuses for Bama and say it was only one game and the SEC still has the toughest scheduling etc etc etc. Nothing changes this except winning post season play against them year after year after year! Thats how the SEC became dominent they did it year after year. How many times have we seen powerhouse teams lose to a unexpecting school yet it does nothing for the winning teams conference?! Nobody cares about one game, its about consistency and doing it when it matters. Its only one game early in the year and the only thing people remember are bowl games and NC's. Bama by 28!!

It's tough to call.  Honestly, it's kind of a win-win for Buckeye fans if you think about it.  If Michigan wins, then the SEC gets taken down a notch or two.  If Alabama wins, then Michigan gets humbled.  Truth be told, a Michigan victory is barely going to dent the whole "SEC is GOD" perception.  To stop the perception, you got to hit them where it counts - the national championship.  If Alabama loses to Michigan, and LSU, or someone else from the SEC, comes out and wins it all, nothing changes in terms of their inflated perception.  Meanwhile, Michigan getting pasted by 3 or 4 TDs would be quite humbling to those who have an overly-inflated sense of how great their team is after last year.  Me likey humble Michigan. 

I'm not going to use that horrid catchphrase of Bama's, but I will root for them for one night. 

If only you could have a 0-0 tie.  Better yet, if only both teams could lose.