Does anyone have any new info. As to how we're doing with him? I keep hearing (AL local news) That Bama gaining a lot of ground with him. Would be great to hear something to the contrary.
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Curious as well. I haven't heard much on him recently.
I thnk it stands where it stood before. If Urban wants him to be a buckeye, he will most likely be a buckeye. However, there are still some flags from his visit, I think both sides are working to repair the relationship and see if Robert would be a good fit for the buckeyes and the buckeyes would be a good fit for himself.
I wouldn't expect to see many changes (at least from the buckeyes) in his recruiting for awhile. I wouldn't think that his recruitment will be over anytime soon.
He needs to attend FNL
foster's- australian for prima donna.
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I think your post is funny , however I will take a prima donna if he is as good as Foster
i'd take him too, but as long as we know that we're potentially opening up pandora's box.
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As I've said numerous times, he's done nothing to show that he's a prima donna, he rarely even talks to media members. I'd take the kid in a heartbeat. Guys like Derrick Green and Laquon Treadwell have shown to be much bigger headcases than Foster
what about his recruiting trip when he acted like he was too good for the program and was visibly disgusted the whole time- like he was the pope at a porno convention?
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Because that never happened... People took one tweet about "old heads", and then ran away with it. If being bored by authority is being a prima donna, then someone is messing with my dictionary.
For example: I dislike my job, I cop out of some of my duties because I do bitch work, and I don't enjoy it. If anything, this makes me lazy, not a prima donna. He never shows any sense of entitlement, or constantly blabs about his top schools changing (Green, Treadwell, McNeil, countless others). He lives his life and made one tweet about what all recruits probably feel during the more boring sections of visits, and now he's some sort of jerk. When Nkemdiche and Rueben Foster, two of the highest ranked recruits actually gave us reasons this week to call them prima donnas.
People need to stop running away with one tweet/rumor, and have an open mind. You made one simile about popes and porn conventions, that doesn't mean I'm gonna go running off telling everybody that you're Ernest Hemingway now.
I think it has been confirmed by multiple sources that the OSU staff was none too pleased with Foster's attitude and actions on his visit there. This story has more behind it than just the tweet from Foster.
Again, this doesn't mean he's a prima donna. This is proven by the same sources claiming he's trying his best to get back on OSU's good side, despite having an offer from pretty much everyone that matters. if the kid thought he was too good for OSU, he could easily take his Bama offer and run, but he's not, and if nothing else, this should show why we shouldn't just jump to the conclusion and then take it as gospel.
Well I'll take him. Every great WR has a hint of prima donna in'em. Its in their DNA. However as Buck I.8 said he has made how many tweets??? He isn't always in the spot light, or seeking it either. So sign him up. I'll take him w/o thinking.
@Dallas,
Since then the relationship has improved (apparently), which is what I think the OP wants to know about. I would assume it's just an academic priority thing.
In every interview he's giving subsequent to the OSU visit, he's come off looking like a total class act. Wants to get the process over with, doesn't want to make a big deal out of his announcement, etc.
I'd absolutely love to get this kid. He's one of the most naturally gifted receivers to come out of high school in years.
I wouldn't cheer for Michigan if they were playing the Taliban.
I agree with Buck-I.8
Thank you, Buck-I.8. I've been saying this about Foster the whole time.
I agree with buckI.8...foster spends a majority of his time tweeting about shoes. Haven't seen him beg for followers, start wars between fans of rival fanbases or made an outright spectacle of his recruitment. As far as I know, after he visted bama he qhasnt visted, camped or even said a word about his recruitment. If that makes hhim a prima donna id hate to hear what people think of treadwell, mcneil or any of the multitude of athletes who's twitter feeds are full of retweets of fans. Hell, jaylon smith is perceived to be a solid, well rounded kid. Even he did the whole follower shout outs and fanbase wars. Why is robert foster being viewed as a bad kid because of one tweet about being bored during a visit? I don't get it.
I think he is being looked at that way because it was rumored the coaching staff had backed off their recruitment of him after his visit. Obviously they saw something they didn't like from him and I'm sure it was character based. It was also reported that Foster had to reach out to the coaching staff to get back in their good graces. With that said, I trust UFM to make the right decision on whether to recruit him or not. I'd like to have him in this class because I feel like we lack playmakers especially at the WR position. The defense is loaded and it looks like we are headed in the right direction with the 2014 class on the defensive side of the ball. I'd like to see the staff bring in a couple of highly touted WR's to go with Marshall (ATH) and Elliott (RB).
Not saying he is a prima dona, just pointing out that the disconnect between the staff and Foster was based on more than just a tweet. Just trying to point out that fact.
Saying he didnt act immature, entitled, arrogant, and disrespectful during his visit would be a bold faced flat out lie. The good part is Bob apologized for how he and his friend acted and really strived to get back on Urbans good side. We will see how much he really cares or if he wants to take the easy route and go to Bama
Urban? Is that you? Give us your inside information, please. Also, to say that going to Bama is taking the easy way out is laughable, you think you don't have to work for success anywhere you go? They don't win by magic
Haven't we been given that exact inside info, or was that another site? Either way multiple insiders have confirmed that Foster was immature and disrespectful on his visit. Are we allowed to take their word as being legitimate?
What I was bringing to the fore was what I took to be legitimate inside info which was confirmed by multiple sources on multiple insider sites.
Everything I've heard is that he seemed bored during academic discussions. Who can blame him?
Im not condoning anything though. And I also don't claim to know all the details, because no one but he and the staff know that. What I am saying is that he may have shown disrespectful tendancies at worst, but at no point has he shown himself to be a prima donna.
Still not saying he was a Prima Dona. Merely stating that there have been multiple insiders give accounts, from those members of the staff with whom they have a relationship, that portrayed Foster as a less than respectful young man at the time. It would appear that he has learned his lesson, which does point to the fact that he is not a prima dona, merely a kid who didn't treat his visit like a business trip.
I just want a WR in this class haha...I have to ask, does anybody really know what happened on his visit outside of the generalisation that he was disrespectful and immature? Also, does anybody really know that he is trying to get back into the 'good graces' of Meyer/do we really know what he is doing? I am not saying that people are wrong to speculate on this at all, just curious to know if we have any more details? Might help clear a few things up for those wondering about Foster.
@Fromthe18 Like I said, no one knows but Foster and the staff. So why make him into something he's shown no evidence of being?
I would love to have him commit (despite his "supposed" lack of interests in academics and off the field issues). He's a stud and we need them at WR. I hate to say this though, but I think it's Pitt or the Tide...unfortunately. At this point I just hope OSU gets 3 "good" WRs...it only seems like four or five are being targeted.
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@Buckeye76bhop ... and just what exactly have you seen/heard that makes you feel that way? Seems to me NOBODY has a read on his recruitment. He doesn't talk much, and has stayed in the shadows, and like Buck I.8 has already stated the defending National Champion wants him bad, so if it was only between Pitt, and the Tide seems like he'd just say screw Urban, and OSU. However its "SEEMS" like he has reached out to OSU to try and make amends. That in its self shows growth, either he has grown up a little or he has the right somebody talking in his ear. Oh, and least we not forget his best buddy is a OSU fan, and wants to play for OSU as well, and they have stated they want to play together. So I think OSU is still VERY much in play for Mr.Foster.
@buck.i.8....
I totally understand your points and agree with them, that I think the reaction was overblown.
However, to say that ONLY Foster and the coaching staff know what really happened is a real simplification of it.
For starters, we're dealing with two 18 year olds who I doubt keep everything to themselves. Secondly, how do you think that sites like 11w, scout, 247, etc get information on recruits before they commit?
People obviously know that something was amiss with Foster. The reports vary from like you said simply disinterested/disengaged to prima donna MoC/TP in waiting. I won't cast judgment beyond his visit did not go well in the eyes of the current staff and that he has work to do in order to be a part of this class.
I don't think that is a stretch to say
Other sources know what people want to tell them. So they may know the exact details, but even they don't KNOW if they truly know. You follow?
@Buck-I.8 That would make sense if it were a single source feeding all of the insiders, but from my understanding it is not. It is much harder to beleive that multiple different sources from inside OSU would be selectively sharing the same thing and selectively withholding the same information, than it is to believe that the events happened just as they were portrayed.
Corroborating evidence from multiple sources is how one reconstructs the events of history. This is the basis of textual criticism and historiography. There is a reason that insiders (the good ones at least) tend to nail commitments well before they happen at a pretty good percentage.
Occam's razor comes to mind. All things being equal the simplest explanation is to be preferred. To me the simplest explanation is that multiple people from OSU's end were less than thrilled with Foster's behavior on his visit and shared that with multiple OSU insiders. The more complex explanation being that multiple OSU insiders simultaneously did not check with their source(s) and merely took a tweet as evidence that Foster was a punk on his visit.
HUGE pre-madonna
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Premodanna is being overused here unfairly...
it amazes me how quickly people to take the words of "insiders" seriously...
Cause I couldn't go for three
Insiders that have been vetted warrant belief.
This is a Bama/Pitt and tTUN (hate to say that last part) war with us and PSU on the outside looking in from what I've heard for a long time. We'll see I guess...I want him to be a Buckeye. Just not sure that's what he wants... If he visits again for an official or unofficial, then I'll be more high on him being a Buckeye. Hopefully this will quench the thirst for all this prima donna talk...I see him being the #1 receiver in 2013, as well as best Freshman WR in all of College football in 2014 season...just saying (with Quick a close second).
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
1. I hope people that are saying pre-madonna are joking.
2. Dallas, you're not understanding me. Sources aside, no one has said he's done anything to show he's a prima donna. At most, he "shows disinterest in academic topics". OK? who likes to talk about grades when you're there for football. Not saying that he shouldn't have been more respectful, but that's not the definition of a prima donna, and anyone that is using those reports as an argument is arguing against their own point.
3. @bhop we're higher than UM on his list, he just put them in his top group because everyone covets the top schools' offers. Also, unless he redshirts, he'll be a sophomore by the 2014 season, so I'm not sure what you're saying.
@Dallas... no insider deserves instant belief, regardless of their vetting... it's a bad sign when you instantly believe everyone without thinking yourself and looking at the facts presented... it's the ESPN trap of "unnamed sources". Yes, there are a lot of people with good information, but don't act like everything out of these people's mouths are gospel
Cause I couldn't go for three
I'm with Buck-I.8 on this one.
This is why recruiting is such a crazy thing to watch. We really have no idea what's going on.
Need an example? Mike Mitchell, anyone? No one had any idea we were even really in the running until the Opening. Mike Heuerman? Ethan Pocic? Total locks...until they verbaled elsewhere. And the ink hasn't even dried on those yet. You never have any idea.
There is nothing final until February so relax and enjoy the ride.
Oh, and if Robert wants to come here, mark me one as ecstatic. Even if he is a prima donna. I'll take it.
That is why I said properly vetted sources. There are about 2 OSU sources that I trust because they have been right way more often than not over the 6 years that I have been following recruiting. Vetting and instant belief are antithetical concepts.
To reiterate, I never said he was a prima donna, merely that the OSU staff was not happy with the way the visit went. Is that being questioned? That is what the sources said, OSU was not happy with the way that he acted on the visit. It doesn't matter to me whether the staff was upset because he wore purple and jaywalked or defaced a national monument, what matters to me is that the staff was upset with him after his visit.
bhop, Michigan is most certainly on the outside looking in for this one. They aren't even really in it, not sure where you got that info. They have room for one more reciever tops and all signs point to that being Treadwell. While I won't go as far to say OSU is in te lead, I'd wager there's about a 100% greater chance he ends up here than at UM
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Dallas, no one said there's no chance he was being disrespectful during his visit, if that's you point, then there's no reason to keep repeating it, it sounds like you're arguing with me, and then contradicting yourself.
What I was trying to point out in the first place is that there was more to the story than just the tweet. The staff was upset with Foster... period. The point where we disagree (given your previous statements) is that you said "people took one tweet... and ran away with it." I was merely trying to point out that there was more to the story than that. I also don't think the "more" makes Foster a prima donna, so on that we agree.
the several dots after my comment should suffice.....
@DALLAS, that's fine, but this is where it started. I understand the visit didn't go great, and maybe I should've expanded on that in my original statement, but I'm not discounting the visit rumors. We're on the same side there.
@DUB I was referring to the poster below you
Yeah, I figured. Good on ya mate. Gotta love the ambiguities of message board communication.
@Buck-I.8, got ya. haha. I was hoping I could get a few people on the Pre-Madonna train, haha
I'm really sorry for this, but I can't take it anymore....it's prima donna not pre-madonna. Sort of like prima ballerina. It's not as if Robert Foster was somehow around or made popular before Madonna started rolling out the hits which would then make him 'Pre'-Madonna. In this case some of my fellow 11W's are accusing Mr. Foster of being a prima donna, to which I respecfully disagree.
"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."
Come on bad... you ruined the fun...
prima donna is also the only one thats italian, congratulations youre stupid in 3 languages (quote, love you Paul Rudd)
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If there were a bunch of diva-like guys in the South, would it be referred to as a Prima Donner Party?
It's still funny to try and imagine Robert Foster's parents getting an offer from Urban Meyer for their future son just before "Like a Virgin" topped the charts.
"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."
^^^^^This made me laugh extremely hard at work at an awkward time;-) Middle of a meeting
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
Can we all at least agree that it's "prima donna"?
No one said otherwise that wasn't being sarcastic