Eleven Warriors

Treadwell is one of the guys in this class that plays the recruiting game (so does Green), he has ever since he visited Columbus last spring. Not a shock to me that he hasn't committed yet. So I don't think that you can chalk it up as a loss to Michigan, that said if I was a TSUN fan I would certainly be nervous, and get more nervous the longer this drags on. If he does not commit during or shortly after his official to Ann Arbor it might be time to really worry.

 Hail, or other Michigan posters, what have you guys been hearing? And how long do you think Hoke will wait, all the way till NSD?

I almost feel bad that they're saving two spots for Treadwell and Green. They might be two of the top five guys who can change their mind any day, and have new schools come out of nowhere

the fact that Hoke threw EVERYTHING at Green last weekend and came away empty handed is telling to me.  Green thought about it, but I think whoever gets the last visit gets Green.  That's the kind of recruit he is.

Treadwell baffels me a bit.  I think he goes up north in the end, but puts the fear of god in everyone by visiting LSU and giving them a glowing review

Is it "playing the recruiting game" if you take your visits and say you like the school after the visit?  These guys are 7 months from signing day, they haven't even played their senior year.  I know the recruiting cycle starts earlier every year, but seriously there's a lot of time for these kids.  Why commit now when tomorrow LSU or Bama or Oregon could make an offer.  I would rather have a kid commit after he has all his information and can compare Ohio State to other schools and know that he wants to be here.  Some Guys like Marshall know Ohio State is the place for them and that's fine, but why wouldn't Green or Treadwell want to hear out LSU, or Auburn etc?

If I'm a top 20  type of player in America I'd pretty much see as many schools as I could, and make my decision after I digested it all.

I would still give it a 75/25 chance that Treadwell ends up at Michigan. They have been his leader all along. They're holding his spot so there is no reason for him to rush. As for Green, as said above, he could go anywhere. I'll follow the notion that he ends up at the last school he visits.

FWIW: I don't disagree with you guys. I wasn't criticizing them for wanting to enjoy their recruiting experience. Some enjoy the recruiting thing more than others. Clearly Green and Treadwell enjoy it, and that's fine. I don't have a problem with it. It is what it is. 

Treadwell and Green both said early on that they weren't going to commit until after their seasons, likely at an all-star game for Treadwell and possibly NSD for Green.

Treadwell has since said that he may be moving his timeline up to before his season, and could drop at any time.  Like many have said, I think he's just playing the game.  I'm confident he ends up at Michigan...for now.  If he doesn't, we likely bank the scholarship.

Green was blown way out of proportion because he was there for an extended visit.  He was never supposed to commit, it just seemed like the planets had aligned just enough where people were throwing out numbers like 60-95% chance he committed over the weekend.  Most feel Michigan is in his top 2 with Auburn.  The latest speculation is a RB who just decommitted from Oklahoma is heading to Auburn and they will be full.  Many still think Green ends up at Michigan eventually.  I say it's 50%, at best.

Remember, both of these guys have said they want to get their teammates more exposure.  That's probably not going to happen if they commit before their season.

I'm tired of the games.  These kids need to make a decision 6-7 months before NSD and before they play their senior seasons.  Who do they think they are?  Michigan's class should have been full by the end of July.  But thanks to these guys...NoooOOO. /S/

if i was a star recruit, i am taking my time, i am gonna take all my visits, i am not signing 6 or 7 or 8 months before loi day.

Nobody is signing anything before national LOI day. None of these guys are ACTUALLY committed. Any of them are free to be flipped by the time Feb rolls around. Verbal commitments hold no weight.

Personally, seeing how much of a circus this is, I'd "committ" early just to avoid being bothered by other coaches, random fans tweeting me, etc. But then, some of them like the game. To each his own.

We can't say verbal commitments hold no weight, most kids who committ end up with the team they committed to first. They hold some weight, but not 100% like the signed letter on NSD.

If I were a star recruit I would probably want to take my visits too, but I would know all along that I was headed to Stanford.  

That M looks like Minnesota's M. The Golden Gophers are getting a good one. 

I feel both will be tTUN unless Green pulls his MO and goes elsewhere at the end (he loves to play the recruiting game).  I see them both going up north in the end though.  Green out of spite and Treadwell bc they impressed early on. IMO of course before it gets shredded by our lovely tTUN fans that come to a Buckeye website to hang out and chat about opinionated crap...(I throw up in my mouth when I see that sunshine and sky color on this site).  

If you commit early and something better comes along and you decide to change your mind, you're trash.

If you decide to take your time and be sure of your decision, you're trash.

Lose-Lose situation.

Good for those that don't commit to "be sure" of their decision.

I'll be darned if I know the origination of that "M" hand signal.  I think it predates Shane Morris, but when, and by whom, I couldn't say.  It has become the unofficial gang-sign of Michigan's 2013 recruiting class.

By the way:  this business of Michigan's counting on Derrick Green and Laquon Treadwell in the recruting "win" column might be vastly overstated.  The term I used for both of them is "unsurprising."  Not "for sure."  Some Michigan recruiting guys doubt that we'll get both.  They both fill positions of need; I think Treadwell is more critical, but also more likely, and perhaps even less predictable (if that isn't a contradiction) given his other offers and possibilities.

let them go to Michi....whoop...just realized what I about typed and threw up in my mouth..anyway..let them go ahead and play for the team up north and see how well they do against our deffense..