SarahMHughes87 Sarah Hughes
According to @ChadSimmons_, #Alabama leads for 5* RB Derrick Green.
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This is hilarious. The kid really is enjoying the recruiting game.
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Stefon Diggs 2.0 anybody?
This dude changes his favorite every few days. At points, Ohio State, Clemson, VT, Auburn, and Alabama have all been "favorites". I'd be pleased if Green committed to the good guys, but I won't be disappointed if he goes elsewhere.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
While it's possible that he does change his preference every week, it's also possible that he is trying to keep people focused on him, and vis a vis, his teammates. He's said before that he isn't going to announce until after the season in an attempt to get some exposure for his teammates (who would have gone otherwise unnoticed were schools not there recruiting Green).
Not that I know anything, but if a bunch of schools think they're in the running to land one of the best backs in the country, don't you think that increases the chances they go to see him, and as a result, see his teammates?
Just a theory. But FWIW, my sources (whose identity I have to keep ultra super secret) tell me he's Louisiana Tech's to lose. And my sources are super legit.
I will probably puke if Alabama lands Derrick Green. Like they need another 5* player. Rich get richer I suppose...
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@Ethan ... I was actually thinking the same thing in regards to D.Green, he is playing the game to remain active so to get his teammates some D1 looks.
If your a power back as much as we hate Bama that is the place to be. Another wasn't needed in this class anyway.
We didn't take a power back this year.
^^^because we took 4 in the last 3 years.
We have enough power backs, I like Elliott over Green anyways just my opinion. Remember Warren Ball in route as well
Im over this kid. (unless we snag him)
This isn't true. Bama isn't that high on him they've got 5 RBs and Derrick has always been concerned about teams depth charts.
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we need lydell ross in this class.
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Agreed to UBZRENEWAL at top...been thinking that Stefon Diggs thing for a while now. We'll see what he says after Friday night
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Well by that theory UA...he sure wouldn't come to OSU...we have like 7 RBs or 9 counting the FBs...got to the OSU's website and count for yourself if you want. If Saban goes after him hard...he may go there but I'd doubt it. He and his mom supposedly "loved" Auburn...this kid is playing the game...very obvious.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
I think Sarah is wrong. Chad is talking about Derrick Henry I believe.
ChadSimmons_ Chad Simmons
5-star RB Derrick Henry returns from #Alabama and he talks visit, why they lead, and more here: recruiting.scout.com/2/1204692.html #Georgia #Tennessee
about 6 hours ago
You're right, Bronco. I don't think Green has even visited Bama yet. He did, however, just get back from Ole Miss and I know he enjoyed that trip. Sounds like a name mixup, as Henry did just come out saying Bama is the clear favorite.
According to this ESPN $ article, Green did visit Bama, Auburn, and Ole Miss.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/colleges/osu/post?id=1072
You're right, that was his first trip. You just don't hear him going gaga over it like you see with Ole Miss and Auburn. I think he's turned off at the idea of them already having RB commits with Derrick Henry (essentially the same kind of back) looking like a lock.
Green did visit Bama and liked it but I don't think he ends up there....I personally still think OSU leads and have always thought he won't be in this class only if there are spots....if Urban and staff turn up the heat on him this weekend I don't even think it's out of the question he commits before his season starts...that being said we will know more after this weekend and the kid does LOVE the recruiting game...he told me a while back he wanted to get his teammates looks and that is one of the reasons he is dragging things out a bit....my guess is he may silently/softly commit somewhere and still take officials but we'll see soon enough if the Bucks have room and/or Green's interest in OSU is as high as I think it is
Is the Curtis Grant connection the reason you believe OSU leads or something else? I know a lot of posters here have soured on Green and I can see why...he loves the recruiting game and we picked up Elliot, who looks to be a star in the making. That being said, I still think Green would be an awesome pickup and a great player for the Bucks if we manage to land him. I'd much rather see him in s&g than suiting up for some other team, especially if he has a high interest in being in Columbus.
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I don't understand why everyone is wringing their hands about Green playing the game. Alex has interviewed the guy a couple times, and he seems to have a really good head on his shoulders. I feel for his situation: he loves OSU and worships Eddie George, but we're chock full of power backs (albeit none with his speed), and don't really run a system that's the best for his skill set--or at least one that would showcase him the way that, say, 'Bama's "One Back" system would.
That said, I don't think that this is a guy that you can say "no" to. Personally, I'd love to redshirt him his first season; selfishly saving his eligibility for when our RB depth weeds out a bit, our offense is truly clicking, and we're ready to make a legit title run (2014). I've also mentioned this before, but I think that Meyer's system may be better than most for him: he'll be showing off every aspect of his playmaking ability (because Meyer loves to get his best guys the ball, in any way possible), and doing it with less carries--meaning he'll be less "aged" if/when he goes pro.
Don't forget how easy it is to get a couple running backs injured. Then what? If you can fill a spot that is susceptible to injury with an A1 player, do it.
I think he is going to scUM i have a wierd feeling about this.
My super secret inside sources tell me that New Mexico State has jumped up his list and is now sitting squarely at #2 behind Bama. Look for that to change after his visit.
I wouldn't cheer for Michigan if they were playing the Taliban.
If he went to Alabama he would be buried in depth. The same could be said for us unless he is that much better than Brionte, I am not sure about that. Those love stains up north probably give him playing time and put him into a system that best suites his skill set. Hate to see them get someone this talented though.
I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.
We'll know more after FNL as Alex said.
However, little birdie told me OSU continues to recruit Dontre Wilson. Also, they said Wilson higher on board than Green.
Something to keep an eye out for.
I guess good news with Wilson, but since he wants to run track, I am not sure why he would come here. He is guaranteed to win a national championship there (even if it is just in track).
Good point about Wilson and track, I think he stays there. I can see Green either staying in V.A. or going to Auburn. Also, I don't have a good feeling on Mike Mitchell coming here anymore, i hope I'm wrong.
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Might not be room for him even if he wanted to.
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Michigan would seem to be out of the Green sweepstakes with Ross Douglas committing today.
Presumably only one spot left. (Laquon Treadwell)
Unfortunately agree^^^^^ seems like Treadwell's been high on tTUN for a while now.
On another note, Wilson's still in the mix even after his verbal commit to Oregon hmmm??? I wouldn't have foreseen them still going after him. It would surprise me if Green didn't commit if Urban and the guys put on the full court press...if they are actually going to do that. Could be interesting to see what happens.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
Whats wrong with what Green is doing? As Hodge said, if you heard him talk or read his interviews he seems like a very fine young man. Alot of hypocrits around here, just like people with such harsh views on Joe Paterno and others who did not actually touch any little boys... how many of you have Michael jackson, a convicted? child molester on your Ipod?
^^^Come on man. Not trying to be combative but there's a pretty big difference between knowingly harboring, enabling and covering up for a child rapist and listening to music that was put out by someone who later became a child molester. Not to mention a lot of Michael Jackson's hits came before he went cuckoo for cocoa puffs.
Not big on Michael Jackson or anything btw. Me? I'm more of an ACDC/Creedence kinda guy.
BTW: What were Michael Jacksons last words? ....nevermind. Probably inappropriate at this juncture. too soon.
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how does a couple of child molester's get on a Derrick Green thread?
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Yeah, Green is a beast. You don't turn him down if he wants to come, per Alex.
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I honestly believe he'll choose either Ohio State or VT, but I'll laugh if he chooses Auburn
/Duff'd It
I also believe he's helping get his teammates exposure, since very few D1 schools actually come to recruit players in Virginia. It'll be great for the AAA Central region as a whole.
/Duff'd It
NOVA: Very few D-I schools come to recruit players in VA? I beg to differ. Major D-I schools come in to VA all the time to recruit.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
Green very talented. Smoke Mizzell may be better fit. Imagine Smoke, Marshall, Jacobs, and Zeke. Sick of Green threads, do not know who TOSU football coaches are recruiting, players or positions. The last few avail. schollies 4 football team I am sure will fill a need. Just my opinion, RB is not a huge need.
We're eliminated from Smoke.
thanks urbz.
@AGL - To be fair, QB wasn't a huge need in the '02 recruiting class--at least not after we'd landed Zwick--yet Tress spent his final sholly on a little-known QB out of Cleveland; a guy who would later win a Heisman while piloting us to the National Title game. Some guys are worth that scholly, even if the depth chart doesn't necessarily warrant said move.
difference between the impact of a QB and that of a RB though, especially a QB like Smith.
While the RB may be dead in the NFL, a workhorse RB is worth his weight in gold in college football. It could be easily argued that in '02, RB was at least as valuable as QB--especially in Bollman's system.
Haha, look at Adrian Peterson, Arian Foster, Ray Rice, and MJD; the RB is not dead in the NFL
Not dead, but their impact is WAY less than a dominant WR, QB. RBs in the NFL rarely last over 3-4 years anymore at a sustained level, so with a turnover that high at a given position, its impact is diminished greatly.
Not dead, but it's certainly not what it used to be. Playoff teams (especially super bowl winners) are running less and less. Quarterbacks are the true positions of necessity in the NFL, an exceptional running back is no longer required to compete at a high level in the league. The fact that your list of "elite RBs" only includes the four RBs of major prominence in the NFL proves my point. Nowadays, you have multipurpose backs, which is where guys like Rice really prove their worth--not just in North/South yards from scrimmage.
My apologies, I shouldn't have used dead; I meant that the Golden Age of the workhorse back is dead--at least in the pros. Manning, Brady, Rodgers, and Brees made sure of that. Hell, Brady basically ran an airraid last year in NE.
Just look at your list of RBs. Rice, Foster, usually rack up plenty of catches out of the backfield. Other RB's like Forte and Chris Johnson typically have a lot of receiving yards too. It's not unusual for these guys to have 50-100 Yards receiving to go with their rushing yards.
As a matter of speaking, you need a running back to play football. In the NFL you don't need a great one to win. Teams WITH great workhorse backs haven't done anything in the modern NFL. How do you think Vikings fans feel about this up and coming season? I bet the Jaguar fans will tell you they aren't Super Bowl contenders either. The Ravens use Rice as more than a workhorse back, while the Titans paid, over paid, then over over over paid for Chris Johnson.
Anyone who thinks you need to run the ball to win is a caveman. You don't. Heck, you don't even need to run in crappy weather to win. Green Bay, New York, New England are all bad weather teams and won plenty of games (oh and that Super Bowl thing) without a real strong running game. Fact is, if you don't have a big time QB, you don't win in the NFL. Since 1993, only two teams (Baltimore and Tampa) have won the Super Bowl without a current, bonafide, or probable hall of fame QB. (Yes, Ben Roethlisberger is a bonafide hall of fame QB. Save that argument for someone who cares)
I'll take a QB over an RB any day of the week because its what wins.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
The rule changes have lead to a pass happy league, they favor offenses big time.
A stud RB is alot more valuable in college than the NFL. If we can land a talent like Green we take him!
Green will not be a Buckeye. Here's a recent tweet from him this evening...
"The Ohio State Coaching Staff has decided to go in another direction."
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
^ If true, apparently he IS somebody you say no to...that's a little surprising
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A real shame. I really wanted this kid in S&G from day one. I continue to trust in the staff!! scUM has room for one more. Do they take Treadwell or Green if it comes down to accepting just one more commit?
I think losing D. Green is a shame...were there other reasons for OSU stopping its pursuit of him other than lack of scholarships?
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Stunning. How do we accept a 2-3 star in Jacobs, but deny a 4-5 star in Green? I understand they play different positions, but talent is talent. I do not understand why we are recruting by need right now, doesn't make sense. Did we take Jacobs because staff doesn't feel good about anyone else other than Gibson? I honestly do not think we are in a position to land any top WR for 2013 other than gibson, at this point...
@216, With all due respect, I don't think you or anyone else (including the people that make the ratings, and myself) are more qualified to make the call on what is best for the offense than the coaching staff.
They don't care about what a kid is rated, they picked up a playmaker at a position with little depth, and turned down another playmaker at a position with more depth. It really isn't that stunning, but you'd love to have this kid.
Apparently Michigan insiders are now saying they will take 2 more (25), leaving room for both Treadwell and Green, although I think Green will go SEC. Is Hoke at risk of the dreaded oversigning? It would seem so.
I don't think Hoke will oversign. He likely just knows things about the team that the fans don't. Frank Clark may open up a spot if he gets dismissed from the team, and they'll likely handle the rest with attrition.
@ Buck-I.8. I agree. I'm really curious to seem how the rest of this class pans out.
Zeke said from the beginning he was told he would be the only running back taken in this class. I think this speaks a lot to how much Meyer and Drayton like Zeke and what they think he will bring to this team.
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Regardless of rating a kid that camped twice and got an offer is in no way shape or form a reach. If the staff isn't head over heels for a kid they don't take the commitment, especially not in July. Jacobs was evaluated up close and personal by the staff twice in quick succession.
Meyer is yet to utilize a power rb at an elite level
Wanted green even though I knew it really didn't make sense to take him.
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I have a feeling we are all going to be watching Green the next few years with sick feelings in our stomachs. Taivon Jacobs better bring the heat and Donovan Munger better not have a commitable offer after this crap news.
@phx Why would you not want Munger to have a commitable offer? From what I have read the staff wants Munger very badly.
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I don't know. Tebow won the Heisman, right?
I feel like Gibson and Jacobs are the same player. Both slot WR's. This is why I'm a tad bit upset about missing out on Green. I guess they really want to recruit by need, oh well. Meyer has 2 NC's, he knows what he is doing. Im not too high on Munger, but it is what it is.
I'm very disappointed. Wanted green badly even though I knew it was a luxury. A lifelong fan of OSU and Eddie George, and a 5 star prospect? Woulda been awesome to have him but I guess it's on him for not jumping on board earlier. Scholly reductions sure do suck
I feel like we are striking out on elite o lineman this year so we want to get a DL and potentially switch him to OL. Seems like a reach to me, that's just what I have read but I could be wrong, definitely not an expert.
@crimson hes a qb. Threw the ball. Deshawn wynn is a helluvA power back got good pt with the packers in the nfl but meyer never utilized him well.
He is? I've seen him throw. I guess I wasn't sure . . .
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I trust Urban and crew, but this one REALLY stings. Not only does he seem like a great player, but a genuine fan of the school and a good kid. He's the kid you want to see in the program. Shame we don't have room.
Meh I always thought Green was kind of a longshot anyways. We have much more important needs.
Great player but the class is nearly full. OSU is now in the position to have to recruit for needs. With 2 LBs, an OL, a WR & & a DB likely coming in soon - I imagine the staff is going to be extremely picky now with the 1-2 spare spots - that is if they even push the class to 21 or 22.
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http://www.michigantremendous.com/2012/07/quick-derrick-green-update.html
Thanks, Urb. Derrick will now be spending 3 days in Ann Arbor (along with his parents). Unfortunately Shane Morris will be in Florida.
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Waited too long. That simple. With so many kids committing early this year, he should have pulled the trigger if this was truly his dream school. We offered him a year ago after all. I'm cool with trying to get your teammates looks, but a year is a longtime in recruiting.
espn reported osu pulled his scholarship and he will not be attending FNL
We didnt really pull his offer, we just simply do not have room for him, pulling his offer would've been if the staff had some off the field issues with Green which isn't the case according to anyone.
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We stopped recruiting him, the same as scUM had done with Anzalone and Schutt. In a year with sanctions, a second runningback is a luxury we cannot afford with WR/OL/LB/Vonn Bell spots to fill.
I really hope he doesn't go to Michigan because I want to root for him wherever he goes. Like others have said, if OSU truly was his dream school, he would have at least silent verbaled to the coaches a while ago to make sure they held a spot.
We do have more pressing needs as well. Would've been a good player but we have our guy in Elliot and still need to fit in 2-3 more WR, 2 LBs, an OT and possibly Von Bell.
Derrick says reason they are no longer recruiting him because of the recent commitment from Taivon Jacobs.
Ain't trippin. Taivon can line up at more spots on the field on offense, and we are already developing a solid stable of big and physical backs with deceptive speed -- Ball, Dunn, Hyde, and Smith. Elliot looks pretty damn fast too -- I think we'll be alright.
As far as Green goes, I'm sure he's doing what he thinks is best for him. Good luck to him. Time for everyone to move on.
He is going to commit to scUM this weekend. From what i am hearing from the insiders.
The thought of Green running behind "That Teams" last 2 OL classes makes me a bit nervy
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We love OSU, and we all love Eddie George, I wonder if we all wanted him more based on him stating he grew up an OSU fan idolizing E.George, because I'm not going to lie after reading about those two facts, and the weight loss to become a running back I was ready to sign him w/o even seeing any film on the guy. I've gone back and reviewed his tape again, and its not terribly impressive. I really liked this kid, and thought he'd be a major piece to the puzzle but I'm going to have to say he hurt himself w/the drawn out recruitment.
@UABUCKEYE... with our defensive front in their way, Im not too worried... bout time Michigan put together a solid class... Green waited too long and I am well happy with having Zeke, Dunn, and Ball in the backfield for a few years... Dunn was rated a 5 star at one point in time, missing out on Green isnt that big of a deal...moving on
Gonna be great but probably won't thrive in the offense Urban is implementing as well as he would in a power back offense. This is the best decision for both sides and no one should be disappointed... unless he goes to UM.
If he commits to UM this weekend, I'm calling spite on his part.
Well, since Leon McQuay was clearly turned off by us taking Ross Douglas, I sure as hell hope you're calling it. Derrick Green and Treadwell might lock up a top 2 recruiting class for Michigan.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
Maybe the staff got word that Bell is coming our way, who knows? Trust the coaching staff. I personally watched Green in 7 on 7's and thought Zeke looked like the 5 star in comparison. Green will be a nice player for someone but it shouldn't put fear in anyone where he goes. Good luck to him no matter where he goes. Our d-line/defense will stop anybody.
Derrick Green in a scUM uniform reminds me of the EA NCAA 13 ad with Eddie in a scUM uni. In short, the last thing you want to see. If Green ends up at Michigan, people here (myself included) will be less than thrilled.
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Hail:
Agreed, if that doesn't lock up a top 2 class, I don't know what would. I think USC will end up as number 1.
Man, this must affirm Bri'onte's hype. Remember how Meyer convinced him to stay in Columbus, rather than bolting for Michigan? Originally I thought it was partially to save face for the new regime, but after the 70 yarder he reeled of in the open practice (for students), and with the staff backing off Green, I'm beginning to think that they see a lot of potential in this kid. I sure hope they're right! Good luck Derrick, even if you become a Wolverine.
I call bullshit that he is a lifelong osu and eddie george fan. I am a lifelong osu fan and eddie was always my favorite growing up, and i would never, under any circumstances, even consider going to michigan...
We are dreaming if we believe this kid in that we were his leader. He says that every school he visits was "awesome" and are at the top of his list. After he is in Ann Arbor for three days this weekend, I'm sure they will be his new leader. With UM now having two scholarship spots open, it might be very possible for them to land Treadwell and Green.
urban meyer has won national championships, i am sure none of us fans have, i trust in urban meyer to do what he needs to do to win national titles. he didnt come home to win big ten titles, he has bigger goals and the experience on how to get there. so green isnt coming to cbus, so what, look at the talent urban has recruited so far and he is just getting started. buckle up fans and enjoy the ride.besides i rather have ryan timmons.
BUCKEYESTU.....you have to beat scUM before you win national titles. Plain and Simpled this is not going to be the last 8 years. scUM is not going to lay down.
yes beating that team north of ohio is important and it is on urbans list of things to do, i trust urban to do what he needs to do to beat them, and win the natinal titles, i am sure urban knows what kind of talent he needs to do so, i for sure dont know, if i did i would be coaching, so buckle up and enjoy.
I think this series will truly take form in 2014 and it will be nearly impossible for the away team to win. I'm sure it will happen, but only when those teams are National title contenders.
I think Michigan has a good shot at winning this year and I think OSU will be considerably better than us in 2013 and a have a good shot at winning in Ann Arbor. After that, advantage home team.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
@ Hail,
What does "good shot" mean to you? As the AA representative on this board, how confident are the rest of your (cough/spit) wolverines regarding The Game this year?
Meh, I don't see, where Michigan every "laid down" against Ohio State. The DickRod era they were just bad, but the years prior to that there were good hard faught wins by an inferior and sometimes superior Ohio State team. No one really knows what kind of Big Game coach Hoke is, because he's never really coached any. I guess you could count the BCS bowl, but they played a team that wasn't very good.
We do know what kind of Big Game Coach Meyer is though. We know what he does in rivalry games and we know what he's done in the post season. The game may get a lot of it's buzz back because both teams will be highly ranked coming in every year from 2013 on, but if Urban's past history indicates anything, I'm not so sure things will be much different thant hey were in the Tressel era. Just my 2 cents. We'll see I guess.
I would agree that Michigan should probably win this year. They'll be better than this team that's learning a new offense and adjusting to a new coach. I completely believe we should temper expectations this season, but that said, I don't see Ohio State losing that game to Michigan this year. Reason number 1, it's this team's bowl game. Number 2, The seniors who have seen the highs and lows aren't going to go out with a loss to Michigan, and 3, Urban knows what this game means. It could be the most important game in his tenure at Ohio State to get the fans to buy in. Sounds crazy with all the Urban love I know, but what if this team has 4 losses going into that game? Then they come out and blow the doors off of Michigan. People are going to be unbelievably excited for 2013. Lose that game and have a 5 loss year and there will be some in the fan bases saying oh man, Urban's not the same coach, we made a mistake etc etc etc. He's going to put everything he has into planning for that game.
Like BTAlbert touched on, new coach, new offense, bowl/B1GCG ban, still mostly Tressel recruits, etc. I don't mean we are going to be the favorites, but only like 3 to 2 dogs. Also, I feel like some of those guys might be pressing because it's their bowl game, etc.
Yes, I know it's your bowl game and a big game for Meyer, but it's not like it doesn't matter to Michigan. In our minds, we need to win 5 or 6 more in a row to get things back to even (obviously that won't happen, but 2 or 3 in a row will do a pretty good job of it). We haven't won in Columbus since, what...2000? 12 years ago. This will likely be the best shot we have at winning in Columbus for some time and I feel like we have to pounce on it.
No disrespect to the players currently on the roster, but guys coming in the next few years are just scary...like John Simon scary.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
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First off about Green...he's not going to tTUN. No matter what Hail says...they're also near full as far as #s left (OSU has targets and only so many spots left unfortunately). OSU wanted him but will have 7RBs next year on scholarship and Dunn's a stud.
Now to this futuristic talk like we're Michael J. Fox in a f#$king Delorean. Before I start this....I'm in no way shape or form trying to be rude, mean, or otherwise. If tTUN fans want to come to OSU websites and talk...then this is going to happen.
We have no clue what's going to happen but you can be sure of this...Hail Rational Mfan or MMan or any other tTUN fan that dwells at an OSU website SMH...don't get too excited about that near loss at home last year against a 6-7 team. As I've said before...you and Wisky are the bowl games for OSU this year. Don't even try to get it in your head that tTUN will win...it won't happen. I'm trying like hell to get tickets for that game...bc that eating reference from Robinson will not be happening...only 121 days baby! If we really want to get into the future, I'd say 2015 may be a year tTUN wins one...but I'd seriously doubt Urban losses one game to this below...watch and enjoy;-)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPxPSzz0LBY
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
Apparently a player, Talbott, I think, has conveniently decided to leave ttun. This gives Hoke another scholarship. They see it as one for Treadwell and now one for Green (MGo). Interesting as to the convenient timing of this. I do not care where Green goes as I trust our staff completely. Just smh at how things magically happen up there and how that would be percieved if it was happening here.
Derrick Green or Brionte Dunn? Who would you take?
I would take Green but I don't think there is a huge drop off between Green and Dunn.
"Love my State, hate the football"
did Michigan lose a player to attrition? Yes. Let's not act like they're the only ones who do. Some players see the writing on the wall and realize playing time will be impossible to come by. Nothing sinister about it. From everything I've seen, Hoke is a high character guy. Let's not forget plenty of attrition happens to our program too, to make room for all those stellar classes we want to sign. Let's not stoop to others level and immediately cry foul because of crap like this.
Sam Webb who is probably one of the most reliable 3 or 4 guys that closely follows and reports Michigan recruiting says we have 2 spots left. He knows more than I know, and Hoke knows more than he does. Only time will tell, for sure, but it looks like there are two spots left.
@Fortmeyer, maybe this is just a bad internet translation, but it sounds like you're implying that Hoke forced Talbott out. You're way off base on this one, I can tell you that. Maybe you have followed the Talbott brothers since high school since they went to Huber Heights Wayne with Braxton. They are very close and both chose to go to Michigan. Terry left after a possible career ending back injury almost a year ago. Terrence apparently want to quit over the winter but was talked into staying. Terrence's name was getting all kinds of buzz throughout spring practice as an emerging talent who might challenge for a starting spot. This came as a surprise to most (at least the fans). It's actually pretty unfortunate.
If Frank Clark gets the boot, don't be surprised if we take 26 since we have several guys planning on enrolling early.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
You still won't get Green...he's not going to tTUN...at least I hope;-)
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
@ BUCKEYEFAN52, Green or Dunn ? Been sayin since Dunn was a frosh in H.S. that he would be the next Big time back for TOSU. Moved to Columbus in early 70's and was fortunate to see some great RB's. Reminds me of Keith Byars. I like Dunn!!
Buckeye76BHOP.... stop denying there relevance. Hoke is most likely going to make them a national power and they are going to recruit. D Green is going to be at scUM for three days visiting, if that doesnt show someone who is seriously interested i dont know what is. I would absolutely hate it if he went there, but it is a major possibility at this point. Some of you on here are in such denial.
Went back to look at Greens highlights as I wasn't overly impressed the first time I watched them. I saw the same thing again. Did not see tremendous speed and he seemed to go down most of the time relatively easily for such a powerhouse type of back. He did not carry 3 or 4 guys twenty yards down field. His greatest asset was lateral movement at the line of scrimmage to find a hole to run through. After that he looked like a really good HS back. If he commits to Hoke they will have two identical backs in Deveon Smith and Green. As identical as could be in my opinion. You want a pair of backs to offer differences when possible. Don't get me wrong he is very good and will do well. Just don't think it's as big a deal if he goes to Hoke as some think.
So much homerism in this thread. Hoke has turned into a recruiting beast, let's admit it. Will he beat urban next year when they have like time to prep? I dont think so, but no one can deny he has pulled together two top notch classes two years in a row that will likely have them contending for the Big Ten championship and even possibly a national title.
Further, we cooled on green due to scholarship count reasons not skillets. He's gonna be a beast in college and I can onl hope he doesn't make um's already stellar class even better. He's gonna rck up some yards somewhere and OSU would have been. Better off if we had him.
How do you know D.Green is going to be a beast? Just because he is a 5*? Now that's funny!
Did I say anything about stars? Clearly I have an opinion that is agreed upon by many others. Had he picked OSU before the scholarship count got him I'm sure most would be sayin how awesome he is going to be as well. No reason to play the " how do you know" or "you're just looking at the stars" game because he's not going to OSU. Clearly anyone's saying anything at this point is stating an opinion so why be a turd about it?
I'm not in denial...if he goes there (which I've stated on another thread) that he and DeVeon Smith will be a nice one two punch. Anyhow, my point was more I don't think he's going to tTUN just because of this weekends visit. That's all...could they take Green??? Of course...I wish OSU would have...but that's a moot point now. I see him going there now out of spite...I really hope you're all not in "denial" about that. TTUN has two spots left, Green and Treadwell could very well be those spots. I'd say that sounds like logic...not denial. I just saw the visit (initially) as out of spite (which I still feel that way even if he commits).
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
The talk of DG idolizing Eddie George and lifelong OSU fan must not have carried much weight. Why didnt he committ? Elliott had no tie to OSU and wanted to committ early. Who loved TOSU more? It is perplexing why Green would push CUrtis Grant this way and make those statements, but not pull trigger early.
Regardless we will be more than fine. Id take brionte and Warren over Green, before we had no room. Elliot is a cerebral player who will suprise many.
Somethin doesnt add up with Green and I am comfortable.
Do you have any evidence that he would be committing out of spite? Frankly, that sounds like a load of horse poo.
Why didn't he commit already? We keep whining about how kids are commiting to early now adays. He hasn't even hit his senior year and were saying he just wants the attention. Speilman committed after NSD, can you say "pre Madonna?!" give the kid a break, who wouldn't want to run behind the UM online? Heck, half of us could be 1000 yard rushers behind their last two class haul. Let's not punish the kid for taking his time and looking at great options seriously. Seriously, why so much spite for the kid?
I'm willing to bet if he wasn't a 5* you wouldn't have said he is going to be a beast.
Personally think if he was going to be off the charts or whatever term used to relate greatness, beast, if you will, Urban would have pursued him to the end. He will indeed be very good but unless he is the annointed one you recruit for need which Urban is doing. Good luck to him no matter where he ends up except versus OSU.
Don't be stupid Buckinbama... Derrick is a physical specimen and very impressive in his junior film. The staff offered him as one of (if not the first) RB offers of this class.
Cause I couldn't go for three
All Buckinbama is saying is that because he has a 5 star rating it doesn't guarantee greatness. Plenty of 5 stars have been duds in college. Even those that look like Green.
No, he is saying that the only reason we are sating he is a stud is because of his ranking, which is just plain ignorant.
Ok, rant time. I love that 11W has delved head first into recruiting. I love recruiting news, and another (free to boot) source is ALWAYS appreciated, but with that comes an evolution in the way this community discusses recruiting. You can't act like every other damn fan blog because now this is a site of primary information. You can't drool over recruits then bash them when they don't come here. You can't aimlessly bash the staff's opinion because you (with absoultely no scouting experience in comparison) like that his highlight film has him running for 6 straight touchdowns (it's a highlight film, OF COURSE he scores almost every play on it).
Mostly we can't continue to have this just plain stupid stars argument. These stars are given by people who not only do this year round as their job but have been doing this MUCH longer than you have even really known anything at all about recruiting. Yes, sometimes they are wrong. 5*s bust for one reason or another and 3*s outperform their expectations. But, more often than not, these stars mean something. The 5*s have offers from tons of ELITE programs that have coaches that aren't gonna waste their scholarships on anyone. The majority of 3*s never recieve BCS offers.
Every team has reaches and steals. We won't be able to tell until they graduate who was what. SO STOP THIS SHIT. Stop dismissing people's opinions either because or in spite of star ratings. JUST STOP.
end rant.
Cause I couldn't go for three
http://www.maizeandbluenews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=articl...
no commit this weekend, no commit anytime soon. Now while UM may still land him, can we stop freaking out?
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
@Rampageripster ... I made a statement, and just because you don't like it doesn't mean I'm going to change it. Now you've displayed your level of ignorance, and stupidity with the 2 comments you've made. So like I said before if this dude wasn't a 5*, and was only a 3* I seriously doubt the poster that labeled him a future college football beast would be making that statement. So the people that evaluate talent decided to stop recruiting him. I do believe if UFM thought he was going to be better then the backs he currently has on the roster then he wouldn't have decided to go in another direction. We have a back similar to Green already on the roster, and his name is C.Hyde. So you can continue with your rants, but before you start throwing out insults get your sh*t together! Its more 3*s then 4*, or 5* players so 90% of most college football rosters are filled with those 3* players you say don't get BCS offers.
I'm not just disagreeing, I am saying that your comment is plain stupid. He is a 5* for a reason. He is a physical specimen, a freak athelete, and has had a fine career as a RB in HS so far. On top of that he has offers from just about everyone. I don't give a rats ass what his star ranking is Green is a damn good runningback prospect. Our current situation with our backfield has ZERO to do with that. We were out of room.
If he was a 3*, he probably wouldn't be a "beast" because he probably wouldn't be nearly as good of a prospect. Putting too little stock into star rating is just as dumb as putting too much.
I'm done with this argument cause it is just stupid. Stars mean something, but not everything. If people want to question the staff or bash a recruit, maybe they should actually spend some time watching film and reading beyond the quick bits. I'm not referring purely to you, but you seem to be stuck in this "stars don't matter, all you care abot is stars", metality, and that is an ignorant mentality.
Cause I couldn't go for three
Great summation rampage. I was going to say the same thing in response but no need to. There is a reason he's a 5 star and it is the same reason I think he'll be a beast. It's like saying, if he wasn't such a physical specimen and he didn't have such great tape you wouldn't think that.... Duh...
I was going to continue to engage you is this pointless debate, but after I read again where you said "most 3*'s don't get BCS offers", it showed your level of college football knowledge. So I'll pass. As for the "physical specimen" that is D.Green I hope he is a GREAT football player no matter where he ends up.
He seems like a good kid that could be a great back, but he's not gonna be a buckeye. Best of luck to him in the future, hope he picks the school that best fits him.
I actually liked Deveon Smith even a little bit more than Green. Smith has a level of nastiness and a Earl Cambellish stiffarm. As well as great lateral movement and tackle breaking ability. Both have great vision for youngsters and good speed, but Smith does little things that I don't see a lot of kids doing at that level (this is all based off of seeing about five minutes of highlight tapes, so you know, my opinion might be bullshit, but highlight reels are all I have).
@Yankeescum You have to remember though, Green plays competition that is infinitely more competitive than Smith. Smith plays in one of the worst conferences in Ohio