It would be nice to see him in this class but I'm wondering how much Green really wants to commit to OSU the longer this goes on (that's a lot bigger list than I expected too SNOODOGG22. Especially after his comments about being a Buckeye fan since he was a kid...). Hope that 7/27 sells him on OSU and he commits on or after his visit. I've always liked this kid and would love to see him and Eze as a 1-2 punch one day. We'll see i suppose...won't be surprised with that list if he ends up elsewhere (I just hope not tTUN...fo sho).
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
he's a player we do not need (as in we have plenty of capable RB's and limited schollies) but u cant say no to a player like this. he's a workhorse back, already seems to have a college ready body for his position and as the person before me said he was an OSU fan growing up and idolizes Eddie George. Him and Vonn Bell are ferocious... they will just pop somebody. they're the type of players that make other fan bases and media respect ur team bcuz it's easy to see players like this stand out with their ridiculous size, strength and brutal hits.
@ this point...we don't win. That's just the stage of recruiting right now. I understand it ends in February or whatever, but Notre Dame, Michigan and other schools are winning the head to head battles. We need a season to see our offense in action before these kids can decide where they'll fit in. Urban's spread wins games, but it's not a pro-style where these kids traditionaly know they can become superstars and end up in the NFL.
Every single guy we've recruited has had competing offers.. Obviously you're going to strike out on some who will pick nearby schools, but Burrows, Elliott, Woodard, and every single member in this class chose to go to OSU over other schools, including ttun and ND.
We seem to get into this every thread but somehow it continues to come up. When you recruit and offer as many as Urban Meyer does, you're going to miss on players.
Nothing wrong with enjoying the process, but I'm getting the feeling Green is enjoying it just a little too much. There is no way all of those schools have a shot at him. I don't know which ones are out of the running, but I'd guess that he does.
Didn't he have a top 10 or a top 7 at some point... I've lost track, but it seems like he's going backwards.
Sometimes kids hesitate to cut a lot of schools simply because it benefits their high school teammates if coaches continue to come by... although, I think that period of evaluation is over for the 2013 group?
Man, I hate hearing this Pro-Style Vs. Spread argument. How can you say simply by playing in a Pro-style offense that it offers anymore chance at success in the NFL. If your good enough to make it in the NFL, you'll get your chance too. I was about to say unless you play for an strictly option offense, but looks at C.Johnson, and D.Thomas both WR that played for GT.
@BAMA don't necessarily agree. Guys like Percy Harvin have found success in the NFL, and spread-type TEs seem to even be more useful in the pros, but there are definitely times when there's a big shift. OLs assignments are a lot different, leading to bigger transition to the pros, and slot-type receivers, with exception of the very best, have little chance in the NFL. (As a Browns fan, the pick of Travis Benjamin was a travesty in my opinion).
But I do agree with you in that if a player works hard enough as an overall athlete, they can make chances for themselves no matter the system.
I may be in a minority but I don't really want this kid. He seems like a really nice kid and a heck of a power running back but I don't see a use for him in Urban's style of offense. I'd personally rather spend a spot on a top WR,OT or a more versatille ATH/RB type player. Green is gonna line up and pound it for 5--8 yards with an occasional long one but our offense is not set-up for that type of ground attack. It may sound crazy passing on such a highly rated talent but I think he fits more in a Tressel/Cooper style offense than a Meyer offense.
Yes... it does sound crazy lol. You will be singing a different tune if he goes to Michigan and lights us up for 200 yards one day along with Shame Morris. Obviously we wouldnt take him just because of that but can u imagine Brionte Dunn and Derrick Green? Wow, thats a very formidable duo. What I like about Urban Meyer is he's willing to change his offense around the talent of his players. Tressel never really did that. Think about what Pryor would do in Meyers offense. Its been said so many times on different threads but Meyer never really had these types of backs at Florida for whatever reasons except one year, probly bcuz Tebow was that guy. Most championship teams win with defense and the running game (along with clutch QB play), if we get Green then that solidifies all we need as long as we patch up the O-Line which I hope isnt too big of an if.
Meyer had Tebow to do between the tackles running at Florida and little shifty dudes to run to the outside. Now he has a shifty, fast guy at QB and will find a way to get some mauler carries up the middle. Tebow certainly got his share.
I guess the point is that there is room in this offense for an Eddie George, or a Beanie Wells or an Earl Campbell, or Jerome Bettis type of fellow.
And Tressel did change the offense, look at the difference between the Maurice Clarett/Craig Krenzel offense and the Troy Smith/Teddy Ginn offense. I don't think that he did a great job figuring out exactly what to do with Pryor, but the offense evolved over the years to suit personnel. I think that Tressel is underrated, even amongst Buckeye fans.
Here, I'll help trim it for him (in order)...Clemson, OSU, Auburn, Michigan, and Alabama (with Va tech a dark horse). This is not factual, but I wouldn't be surprised if it looks something like this when cuts are made.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
not sure if I care for Green, the way Elliot is rising and just the way the entire process in recruiting Green has been, I'd feel perfectly happy if he went elsewhere
hail, michigan did make the cut so that says a lot. i think just about all the teams have a legit shot at landing him. having said that, I've also noticed he has high praise for most of the teams he discusses and he's 'enjoying the recruiting process.' so i take most of what he says with a grain of salt.
I was reading about his performance this week at the 5* event going on. Sounds like he was unable to get to the corner against the faster LBs, and in the words of the analysts there, he was "dominated" by Rueben Foster. I do think he is a great kid and a talented FB player, but I'm less excited about him then I am about some of our other targets that I'd rather see - Mizzell, Foster, Quick, Gibson, or David Williams.
Absolutely agree. He bounces around in every interview. A school is in his major contender one week and then not mentioned the next. I guess this is an on week for us.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
Probably posted somewhere else on the site sorry for the repeat if it is. But Green is rooming with Elliot at the opening, if they hit it off that certainly cant be a bad thing for OSU.
Just saw on Twitter that D Green and Elliott are rooming together at The Opening.... Will Elliott befriend Green and convince him to compete against him or will he try to undersell the bucks to lock down his spot...
NYBuckeye- Yeah I had heard that guys would be rooming by position. Hearing Elliot and Green are rooming together coudl be a good thing. I saw a tweet that TE Jake Butt (from Pickerington and a UM commit) was rooming with TE Marcus Baugh (OSU commit from Cali), which I thought was kinda funny.
The Opening is a very cool idea. All of these top prospects get the chance to get to know each other personally and that will make their rivalries that much more special and intense down the road.
yeah, most of these guys know each other pretty well (was it the NFTC camp in columbus with the Morris photobomb?). Several of these guys were there. Even though they have fun with the rivalries, I think they're all rooting for one another.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
It's gonna hurt a little when Derrick Green inevitably goes somewhere else, though it will help that he won't be at Michigan.
But it's gonna hurt the same when he's another one of many in a stable of talented running backs, and we'll have to write articles about him like we are now about Rod Smith, because who the hell knows how good you can be if you're stuck behind other guys.
Unless he falls in love with the big back utilization this year, it's not happening.
Was hoping for a more narrow list but oh well.
Tough times never last, tough people do
It would be nice to see him in this class but I'm wondering how much Green really wants to commit to OSU the longer this goes on (that's a lot bigger list than I expected too SNOODOGG22. Especially after his comments about being a Buckeye fan since he was a kid...). Hope that 7/27 sells him on OSU and he commits on or after his visit. I've always liked this kid and would love to see him and Eze as a 1-2 punch one day. We'll see i suppose...won't be surprised with that list if he ends up elsewhere (I just hope not tTUN...fo sho).
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
he's a player we do not need (as in we have plenty of capable RB's and limited schollies) but u cant say no to a player like this. he's a workhorse back, already seems to have a college ready body for his position and as the person before me said he was an OSU fan growing up and idolizes Eddie George. Him and Vonn Bell are ferocious... they will just pop somebody. they're the type of players that make other fan bases and media respect ur team bcuz it's easy to see players like this stand out with their ridiculous size, strength and brutal hits.
So he cut all D-2 schools from his list.....
Wherever you are, there you be!
@Boom
Not quite, tsun is still on there.
@ this point...we don't win. That's just the stage of recruiting right now. I understand it ends in February or whatever, but Notre Dame, Michigan and other schools are winning the head to head battles. We need a season to see our offense in action before these kids can decide where they'll fit in. Urban's spread wins games, but it's not a pro-style where these kids traditionaly know they can become superstars and end up in the NFL.
"Winning takes care of everything. - Woody Hayes"
@BVILLe Yeah that's probably why ND beat us for Ezekiel Elliott
Every single guy we've recruited has had competing offers.. Obviously you're going to strike out on some who will pick nearby schools, but Burrows, Elliott, Woodard, and every single member in this class chose to go to OSU over other schools, including ttun and ND.
We seem to get into this every thread but somehow it continues to come up. When you recruit and offer as many as Urban Meyer does, you're going to miss on players.
Get him a bigger pair of scissors...
Nothing wrong with enjoying the process, but I'm getting the feeling Green is enjoying it just a little too much. There is no way all of those schools have a shot at him. I don't know which ones are out of the running, but I'd guess that he does.
Didn't he have a top 10 or a top 7 at some point... I've lost track, but it seems like he's going backwards.
Sometimes kids hesitate to cut a lot of schools simply because it benefits their high school teammates if coaches continue to come by... although, I think that period of evaluation is over for the 2013 group?
Man, I hate hearing this Pro-Style Vs. Spread argument. How can you say simply by playing in a Pro-style offense that it offers anymore chance at success in the NFL. If your good enough to make it in the NFL, you'll get your chance too. I was about to say unless you play for an strictly option offense, but looks at C.Johnson, and D.Thomas both WR that played for GT.
@BAMA don't necessarily agree. Guys like Percy Harvin have found success in the NFL, and spread-type TEs seem to even be more useful in the pros, but there are definitely times when there's a big shift. OLs assignments are a lot different, leading to bigger transition to the pros, and slot-type receivers, with exception of the very best, have little chance in the NFL. (As a Browns fan, the pick of Travis Benjamin was a travesty in my opinion).
But I do agree with you in that if a player works hard enough as an overall athlete, they can make chances for themselves no matter the system.
calvin didn't play at GT when they were running the option offense. DT is a good example though.
I may be in a minority but I don't really want this kid. He seems like a really nice kid and a heck of a power running back but I don't see a use for him in Urban's style of offense. I'd personally rather spend a spot on a top WR,OT or a more versatille ATH/RB type player. Green is gonna line up and pound it for 5--8 yards with an occasional long one but our offense is not set-up for that type of ground attack. It may sound crazy passing on such a highly rated talent but I think he fits more in a Tressel/Cooper style offense than a Meyer offense.
Yes... it does sound crazy lol. You will be singing a different tune if he goes to Michigan and lights us up for 200 yards one day along with Shame Morris. Obviously we wouldnt take him just because of that but can u imagine Brionte Dunn and Derrick Green? Wow, thats a very formidable duo. What I like about Urban Meyer is he's willing to change his offense around the talent of his players. Tressel never really did that. Think about what Pryor would do in Meyers offense. Its been said so many times on different threads but Meyer never really had these types of backs at Florida for whatever reasons except one year, probly bcuz Tebow was that guy. Most championship teams win with defense and the running game (along with clutch QB play), if we get Green then that solidifies all we need as long as we patch up the O-Line which I hope isnt too big of an if.
If we have big backs well still pound the ball often. Well do what works. If the staff takes him then they'll plan on using that.
People are typecasting Urban because of his offense at Florida. This is close minded. He'll adjust the system to the tools, he isn't RichRod
so hes 230 and runs a 4.3.....
maybe urban can use him at the percy position and just have him run over the safties and db's all game
So really he hasn't cut his list.
Meyer had Tebow to do between the tackles running at Florida and little shifty dudes to run to the outside. Now he has a shifty, fast guy at QB and will find a way to get some mauler carries up the middle. Tebow certainly got his share.
I guess the point is that there is room in this offense for an Eddie George, or a Beanie Wells or an Earl Campbell, or Jerome Bettis type of fellow.
And Tressel did change the offense, look at the difference between the Maurice Clarett/Craig Krenzel offense and the Troy Smith/Teddy Ginn offense. I don't think that he did a great job figuring out exactly what to do with Pryor, but the offense evolved over the years to suit personnel. I think that Tressel is underrated, even amongst Buckeye fans.
Urban will adjust the offense to the playmakers he has...
I think we will get a good gage of this by how he utilizes Boren this season as he has mentioned that Boren WILL see touches.
FWIW: The kid has over 30 offers, so he has trimmed it down by more than half.
Here, I'll help trim it for him (in order)...Clemson, OSU, Auburn, Michigan, and Alabama (with Va tech a dark horse). This is not factual, but I wouldn't be surprised if it looks something like this when cuts are made.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
I think VT is above UM, Bama, and maybe even OSU. Remember, he skipped ourspring game to go there
not sure if I care for Green, the way Elliot is rising and just the way the entire process in recruiting Green has been, I'd feel perfectly happy if he went elsewhere
Some water for the rumor mill (just enough to get Michigan fans hopes up and probably nothing more). From a live interview on ESPN:
Damon Sayles: Green: "They are very high on my list. I like how they have their top offensive linemen group. Me and David Dawson are really close."
Damon Sayles: Green: "I would like to play in a pro-style offense"
Comment From Tim
Derrick, you excited to go to the BBQ at the Big House?
Damon Sayles: Green: "Oh yes. Definitely."
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
hail, michigan did make the cut so that says a lot. i think just about all the teams have a legit shot at landing him. having said that, I've also noticed he has high praise for most of the teams he discusses and he's 'enjoying the recruiting process.' so i take most of what he says with a grain of salt.
I was reading about his performance this week at the 5* event going on. Sounds like he was unable to get to the corner against the faster LBs, and in the words of the analysts there, he was "dominated" by Rueben Foster. I do think he is a great kid and a talented FB player, but I'm less excited about him then I am about some of our other targets that I'd rather see - Mizzell, Foster, Quick, Gibson, or David Williams.
@HCAZUALCC
Absolutely agree. He bounces around in every interview. A school is in his major contender one week and then not mentioned the next. I guess this is an on week for us.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
Probably posted somewhere else on the site sorry for the repeat if it is. But Green is rooming with Elliot at the opening, if they hit it off that certainly cant be a bad thing for OSU.
Just saw on Twitter that D Green and Elliott are rooming together at The Opening.... Will Elliott befriend Green and convince him to compete against him or will he try to undersell the bucks to lock down his spot...
NYBuckeye- Yeah I had heard that guys would be rooming by position. Hearing Elliot and Green are rooming together coudl be a good thing. I saw a tweet that TE Jake Butt (from Pickerington and a UM commit) was rooming with TE Marcus Baugh (OSU commit from Cali), which I thought was kinda funny.
The Opening is a very cool idea. All of these top prospects get the chance to get to know each other personally and that will make their rivalries that much more special and intense down the road.
yeah, most of these guys know each other pretty well (was it the NFTC camp in columbus with the Morris photobomb?). Several of these guys were there. Even though they have fun with the rivalries, I think they're all rooting for one another.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
It's gonna hurt a little when Derrick Green inevitably goes somewhere else, though it will help that he won't be at Michigan.
But it's gonna hurt the same when he's another one of many in a stable of talented running backs, and we'll have to write articles about him like we are now about Rod Smith, because who the hell knows how good you can be if you're stuck behind other guys.
Unless he falls in love with the big back utilization this year, it's not happening.