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Confirmed dead after reports of a shooting in his home. Very sad as he was an excellent player and will be missed. He was 43 years old.
wow so young...rip
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A lot of sources are reporting suicide
Yup, shotgun handgun wound to the chest. If indeed it is suicide, then it's eerily reminiscent of Dave Duerson back in February 2011.
Sad. When I was a kid, before I was a Buckeye fan, he was one of my favorite players. I loved the 94 Charger's superbowl run (my dad is from San Diego), and I still have an old AFC championship t-shirt with Seau crushing the Pittsburgh Steeler's helmets and holding the Lamar Hunt trophy on it.
Police confirm suicide
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
one of my best friends growing up had a bad ass poster of him with lightning in the background. we were 12/13 yrs old and thought he was awesome. so sad.
I know there's a game saturday, and my ass will be there.
Perhaps his driving his car off a cliff in 2010 was an attempted suicide.
Somewhere very high up on the list of "best games any opponent ever had against the Buckeyes," you'll find Seau's name. He was basically all anyone could talk about after the epic asskicking the Trojans laid on us in 1989.
All cases are different, but man, this is sure looking like a trend.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
Perhaps his driving his car off a cliff in 2010 was an attempted suicide.
Never heard about that.
Truely sad, rest in peace Junior! Thoughts and prayers go out to his family.
Run_Fido's favorite word is strawman.
Does anyone know if Seau was reportedly suffering from depression or brain issues from concussions or anything? I know I hadn't heard anything, and I know there are a myriad of things that could cause a person to consider ending their own life, I'm just curious.
Very sad news for sure.
Tenn- heard someone say he did this so they would study his brain or something.
Loved this dude when I was at Camp Pendleton. Passion.
@SATURDAY - I think you're referring to ex-Bear Dave Duerson. He committed suicide in an eerily familiar fashion, shooting himself in the chest and requesting the university of Boston examine his brain. They are doing research in a neurological disease caused by repeated head trauma. Seau might have had the same idea, but I haven't heard anything about him wanting his brain studied. Has anyone heard anything about a note?
Talk radio was saying they think he was in some financial trouble from his divorce. Tey also mentioned over 78% of NFL players go through divorce or end up in serious financial trouble. Terrible news. Loved wtching him play as a kid. I remember the cereal commercial he did. "I love to CRUNCH"
Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.
Some believe that is why he shot himself in the chest, Hodge, but I haven't seen it confirmed.
CSI had an episode on within the last 6 weeks that was about an MMA fighter that killed himself, but had previously arranged for his brain to be studied. I'm not sure of the name of the disease or syndrome that is linked to constant head trauma, but apparently it can't be diagnosed or evaluated short of conducting an autopsy.
Definitely sad if he was that messed up from all the hits over the years that he thought this was his last resort.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
The thing I find odd (if it was financial). All these NFL players say he would do anything for them and vice versa. His buddies coulda helped him out if it was financial. Also on the note of 78% of players go threw this, I wonder if that number would be lowered if they had to complete 4 yrs of school? Just a thought and dont wanna come off as a dick RIP Junior.
mark may wins douchebag of the year... again
How very sad it is when someone takes their own life. It seems as if the car crash in '10 was an attempt at it after a domestic violence arrest.
so tired of hearing about these people who had it made only to commit suicde.
wtf men and women who come back from the war with no arms and legs and they find a will to live,kids with cancer that choose to live, some football player takes easy way out and we condone it
whats the world coming to
"Give me Liberty, or Give me Death!"
^Not appropriate. While some of your sentiments may be valid (pertaining to war casualties), there is no need for such comments. Have you no respect for the man's family?
Depression/mental illness cares little how much money you make, how many cars you drive or how many kids you have. Depression is a thief. It steals your joy, your passion and eventually your soul. The abyss that one is plunged into is unfathomable and as hard as it may seem to others, death is the preferable option to waking up everyday with the overwhelming despair. I often hear people say how someone who takes their own life is selfish. Many people feel that by dying they are doing their friends and families a favor by not longer being a burden to them. Of course that is not true, but to a person who sees no hope it makes sense.
There is a stigma that surrounds mental illness that often prevents people from seeking treatment. Too many young athletes are dying by their own hand. I would presume that some of them felt that they would be perceived as "weak" when in reality they would be as strong and brave for doing so as they are on the field of play. We need those who have gotten help to speak out publicly as some already have.
I think a lot of the problem stems from financial issues, as Sir Rickithda3rd mentions. A lot of players in the NFL have no idea how to spend and maintain their wealth--75% have money issues. I don't know why the NFL PA hasn't done anything about this (they might have, can't remember if it was them or the NBA PA), but there should be mandatory classes that rookies need to take explaining wealth management and financial planning.
I believe that this death of such a well-known and regarded player will go a long way towards changing the way the NFL handles its players. Staples wrote a great article on this yesterday.
This is going to come out as another case of Chronic traumatic encephalopathy. Its a horrible condition that more and more NFL players are being diagnosed with. Since about 2007, we have been rethinking the way we look at head trauma in the NFL (and now the NHL in light of its multiple players death by suicide). Conventional wisdom had people thinking the big, magnificent hits the NFL is known for were causing the brain injury. People have since come around to the thinking that the multiple, sub concussive hits are the ones causing the problem. The Chicago Tribune did a study on your typical high school football player and said player makes an average of 3000 hits with his head throughout the course of a season, practice and games included. Imagine that is the case with Seau. He played 19 years in the NFL, 4 years in college, and lets say 8 years prior? If those numbers hold, that means Seau made contact with his head with varying degrees of force approximately 93,000 times. The effect those hits have on the human brain can not be understated. Football is a dangerous game, everyone who plays it knows it. But the risk these guys take really gets magnified when these guys are in the 40's and 50's and their brain literally betrays them. Seau's thoughts of suicide, and eventual action, will be determined to be the result of a brain that was systematically damaged over the course of 3 decades of football.
More so-to the person who is "tired"of hearing about people commit suicide, I hope it never affects your life the way it has affected other people. It is very easy for you to grow tired of something you know nothing about. In the case of Seau, you'll see-His brain is severely damaged. You don't think clear with a broken brain. I hope you eat your words.
Of course, maybe you'll still be tired of it by then.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
Pam is so eloquently right. My daughter's best friend's dad committed suicide a few years ago. In better times, he was a brilliant man at the top of his profession. He was a very hands on dad who loved his family, and taught his kids (and my daughter) how to fish, body surf and play poker. He fell into a depression so deep and so profound, despite seeking professional help, that he did truly believe that his family would be better off without him. Yes, he was selfish in a way in that in the end, he could only focus on his overwhelming pain and darkness, and not on how his death would devastate his family and friends. He would have never, ever done that to his wife and kids if he was not in such a terrible state. The idea that Seau, and other pro football and hockey players might have gone through/will go through such despair because of playing their sport is very, very troubling.
Autopsy has revealed a CTE indicator. As sad and calloused as normal depression is, Seau's is equally tragic because the game he devoted his life to ultimately turned on him.
CTE is an epidemic. And worse-its one people don't want to go away because no one wants to see football change. These guys give up a lifetime for a decade in the sun.
Thank you Pam! Well said.
Also, @the dude above, who has "condoned" anything?
hogwash,respect for family if family cared the man would not be dead period.
depression,its all in your mind don"t control your mind,really does not matter.
its called post tramatic depression syndrome
Please do the slightest bit of research before you treat us to one of your misguided opinions. Depression as a whole is a medical condition while CTE-Which Seau has, is all the rage in the medical field right now. The man had no choice. His brain had stopped normal functionality. 90000 times. Thats how many times I estimate Junior smacked his head against something. After a while the brain breaks down. Picture the liver of a heavy drinker. Its the same idea.
You are out of line, incorrect, and making poor assumptions. I speak from very close personal experience about the effects of depression and as football fans, you are blind if you don't see the damage CTE does to a player's life. Mike Webster, Dave Duerson, Chris Henry, Junior Seau. More to come-trust me on that.
As for the 'if the family cared'....that's a nice comfy stance to take. Lose someone close to you to suicide and give me your opinion. Until then, you need to shut your mouth when grown folks is talkin.
Sadly Deads comments speak to the stigma I mentioned in my post;thinking that depression is a weakness and that one "snap out of it" if only they tried hard enough. My reply when I hear that is ask a diabetic or someone with another type of chronic illness (such as high blood pressure) to snap out it, don't take your insulin or high pressure medication and see what happens. What will happen is they will die. Depression is a chronic illness that if not treated is often fatal just like diabetes and hypertension. I speak from my own struggle with this hideous condition as well a member of my family who could struggle no more.
Dead, watch the press conference with Seau's mother and then get back to me about whether she cared about her son. You are grossly ill informed.
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