Eleven Warriors

When you win the big ten championship its opens up all those other doors.......

We can't get too far ahead of ourselves.  If Urban Meyer coaches 10 years, I think we can realistically expect 1 or maybe even 2 national championships.  It is hard to do, and even harder now that you have that B1G championship game in a sport where 1 loss can ruin your national title hopes.  I can foresee us having a lot of close calls, some 10-2/11-1 type seasons where we win our division and the conference most of the time we win the division.  I think we can get to a lot of BCS bowls and win most of them.  The national title is a huge mountain to climb, and you have to have a lot of things go your way on top of bringing your A game every week. 

Who has been a Dynasty in college football though?  No one ever wins 3 titles in a row of hell even 2 in a row.  I do think Urban's teams will dominate the B1G because a lesser coach with lesser talent was able to.  The B1G as a whole isn't any better than those days and lets face it, in the near future there isn't any sign of the conference improving at all.  Michigan may get back to where they were before DickRod, but Tressel had their number. 

Urban is a better coach, who attracts better athletes, and he's probably the best big game coach in America.  He has crushed his rivals at every stop and won bowl games. All but one that Michigan fans love to point out. 

I honestly think Ohio State's teams will be more dominant.  Do I think they will be in 2012?  Absolutely not.  I think realistically 2014 is the year Ohio State wins the National Championship.  I think the team this year will be good enough to win double digit games.  They only needed to be just a little bit better last year to win against Nebraska, Michigan, and MSU.  Offensively the team was horrible last year.  Just getting the team up to mediocre on offense will improve them enough to be an 8 win team next year.  The defense will improve too.  I don't think a 10 win season is all that crazy to expect next year.

10-2/11-1 season- 2012-Miller gets the offense going while the defense absolutely wreaks havoc. 

Rose Bowl-2013-Miller's first year with Jalin Marshall and his infusion into the offense.

Natty-2014-Miller will be a senior while Marshall is a sophomore. Washington and Spence will both be Jrs along with the myriad of other defensive studs Meyer's brought in. This is the year I think that we could *possibly* see the best OSU team ever..

Those are my expectations for the team under Meyer in the next 3 years. I think that he'll absolutely destroy the B1G, with Michigan being the only team that will be able to challenge us. As for a dynasty, I think USC was the last true dynasty that we will see, for the parity in CFB is definitely increasing. If Meyer wins two titles here in a 5-6 year span I think that he will have met the insanely lofty expectations we have for this team. Although I do think that 2 titles during his tenure is definitely doable and that anything more than that is just incredible. 

The teams goals fall inline with becomming a dynasty so yeah, why not? it may not be easy but its very plausable and they are heading in the right direction but they do have a long hard road ahead to get there.

One thing for sure is they will have to go undefeated to make it to the big dance  

Do I want a several NC's and a dynasty? Absolutely! No matter who the coach is. Do I expect it? Eh, maybe in my heart but my mind tells me differently. If I could just get the two to talk I would be in good shape. Better to shoot for the starts and miss than aim for the gutter and make it.

^Name a school that was more dominant during the aughts than USC. They had several seasons were they had incredible teams that stumbled once and lost out on a chance to win a title. If USC doesn't screw up against the UCLAs/Cals/Stanfords they win several titles over the SEC, easily at that.

Saying that USC was the best team of the aughts is not the same as saying they were a dynasty.  A dynasty means that they ruled, and although they ruled the Pac 10, they didn't rule the NCAA.  You can be the best and not "rule".  Lebron may be the best player in the NBA, but he certainly doesn't rule (yet), like his nickname would imply.

As for OSU, I expect Tressel-like success, with a few more surprise losses and a few more national-stage wins.  Satisfied with one title in the next 6-10 years, wouldn't be surprised with two, and would be overjoyed with three.  

Not being able to oversign and having the extra scrutiny from the scandals will be a real disadvantage for us vs. the SEC.  Imagine if we could cut an extra three players every year and recruit extra guys?  Remember, AJ Hawk was a 3* and Troy Smith was the last recruit signed that year.  What if they had three fewer scholaships those years?  Now, I disagree with those types of strategies, but they do make it harder to win the big one for the rest of us.  That's why I grudgingly respect Notre Dame (though I pretty much hope they lose every game) and Boston College, because they really do have stricter admissions standards than the rest of the top football programs (Tony Rice notwistanding).  

WTF? A dynasty on 1 1/2 national titles? One of which was vacated? Are you guys serious?  That's some nice "if this" and "if that" talk, but who cares, it didn't happen that way.  "If Cooper could beat Michigan, we would have had a dynasty in the '90's."  Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds?

I'm not voicing an opinion about what Urban will do.

I just want to clarify that everyone's definition of "Dynasty."

1) It requires more than one national title

2) Do they have to come in consecutive seasons?

Lets settle down he hasnt coached a game in the big ten. How about winnig games before we crown the guy. 

Hell I crowned him when he was at Florida. If hes not the best coach in college football hes def the 2nd best.

I don't know how you can't call '02-'08 USC a dynasty--7 Pac Ten titles, 2 Championships (1 AP only), 2 appearances in BCS title games, 6 BCS wins out of 7 games (only loss coming at the hands of Vince Young's incredible performance in the title game), and an 82-9 overall record?  That's exceptional.

That being said, '08-present 'Bama is a dynasty right now.  Though two finishes outside the top 5 make this one tough to call, pulling in 2 National Championships speaks for itself.  Ironically, Saban has more national titles at 'Bama than SEC titles.  If 'Bama pulls off another top 5 finish this season, there's no argument that they've picked up USC's torch.

The argument can be made for OSU during different parts of Tressel's tenure, but I think the team lacked the consistency against out-of-conference opponents.  Went to three title games though, but only won one.  '02-'07 includes all three championships, but includes two non Big Ten championship seasons in '03 and '04.

The last true college football dynasty before USC was the one we defeated in Tempe in 2003, the Miami Hurricanes from 2000-2003 were absolute monsters.  46-4, 4 Big East titles, 2 Championship appearances, 1 National Championship, and a 34 game win streak.  

In my opinion, though, the only undisputed dynasty of the last 20 years has to be the Nebraska Cornhuskers from '93-'97.  His teams went 60-3 over that span, with 4 Big 12 titles, 3(!) National Championships (although '97 was shared with Michigan), and won 4 out of 5 bowl games.  That's absolute nonsense, and a feat I don't think will ever be duplicated in the modern era.

Agreed.  It was that loss that really ended the Obsorne legacy--though he had retired 4 years earlier--and 'Brasky's national prominence.  It was ironically OSU's victory over Miami that sent those two programs in their separate directions:  OSU up, and Miami down.

'02 Miami is still the greatest team to have never won a national championship.  I'm convinced they would have absolutely destroyed '98 Ohio State.

Hodge - I would say I sort of agree on your points. I think that from 2001 - 2010 OSU would be the #1 or #2 most dominant college team of that era & a dynasty of sorts. Yes came up short a few times - yes lost 2 NCs but also beat that great Miami team you speak of for an NC & appeared in & won more BCS bowls than anyone else out there (I could be wrong on that statement - working off memory here). On the other hand I am & will always be a brutally blind homer.

DBit - The 2013 schedule is very favorable...I think a lot of our fans have some very unreal expectations & thats due in part to what both Jim Tressel & Urban Meyer were able to accomplish as coaches. That said, 2013 does look very favorable for the Buckeyes to at least get to the B1G championship game & who knows - maybe further.