Well, considering it takes awhile to get a hold of a recruit, it was past 9PM, and the NFL draft was on, I think only he and his family know. Chill, there'll be news if it was important; there needn't be a thread for every tweet about OSU recruiting. The information will come eventually.
Everything bothers him if its not coming from his own mouth...its usually best to ignore it...
On topic, it looks like he's made a few comments about "just talked to so-and-so's coach" throughout the past couple weeks and I don't think much will transpire from this single conversation. Its got to be a good sign that they are talking, especially since he recently made a comment that he has only talked to Urban once
Thanks alot Fail good to hear some positive news about green I thought we were out on him. Wtf recruit buck chill out man, your amongst la familia Holmes
I'm not angry guys lol? I'm not sure what else I was supposed to say?
Don't tell me what to do Buckeyenation, the thread doesn't bother me (trust me, I want Green more than most other offensive commits), the timing was just a bit off (considering most writing staff would be writing about the draft, not investigating a phonecall to a kid past 9PM minutes before, it would be highly unlikely that he would answer any reporters)
Wtf Northbuckeye, if you have a problem with me please tell me (find me on Twitter @officialmtj), don't say shit about me. I've never done anything to you.
Everything bothers him if its not coming from his own mouth...its usually best to ignore it...
It doesn't come out of my mouth, it comes out of my keyboard (fingers if you will) btw. The tone wasn't angry, like I said:
The information will come eventually.
Tells me to chill when I'm entirely relaxed, I replied that I was entirely relaxed lol, what else was I supposed to say? I love how you guys tell me to "chill" when I'm perfectly fine, the only thing that can ever accomplish is getting people pissed off. Please, tell me what else I'm supposed to say.
"Don't be a jerk" is the golden rule of the commenting policy. I'm not sure I've done anything wrong besides delivering the straight truth [yes, that pisses people off sometimes, get over it], but the unwarrented attacks against me are unnecessary (@UpNorthBuckeye).
It is often difficult to determine one's tone, sarcasm, etc. when reading a message forum, but there are occasions where you come off as being somewhat harsh RecruitBuck. I don't think you intend to do it so I've given you the benefit of the doubt, but I could see where some interpret it negatively. Just something to think about
So you're saying I should sugarcoat things rather than telling the real truth? I don't speculate just based on guesses, I make predictions and am usually right.
So what if I'm blunt and am going to be firm on where I stand on things as far as they're reported. If you guys don't like that, that's your fault, not ground for attack. Sorry, you can't change my personality; I'm not a jerk, I just like to think that I know about what I'm typing about, which is why I'm often the first to report on here breaking commits (except Bosa/Neal, I was actually working at work) etc.
I'm not "harsh", I'm blunt. There's a difference, I check my fanhood at the door.
It's not that I don't like you guys (as UpNorthBuckeye seems to insinuate, I love you guys lol), it's that I usually know what I'm talking about. I love it here, after visiting Rivals/Scout/247 boards. This and TheOzone's forums are awesome, except there's typically more people commenting here.
Remember everyone, theres people of ALL ages who post here...I think some people show their age more so than others. In the words of a great philosopher "Can't we all just get along"!
I do agree that not every tweet deserves a thread. However, you can tell the truth while maintaining some level of civility, and without sounding like a dick. And how long should someone wait after reading a tweet before posting?
I think this guy read the tweet and thought that we had backed off of Green, but when the head coach is calling maybe that is contradicted a bit. He just wanted some update if there was one and I don't think he needed one that night, just as soon as anyone had heard anything.
Back on topic: I am interested to know what our standing is with him and how hard our staff is going after him, since a call indicates pretty solid interest.
Well, considering it takes awhile to get a hold of a recruit, it was past 9PM, and the NFL draft was on, I think only he and his family know. Chill, there'll be news if it was important; there needn't be a thread for every tweet about OSU recruiting. The information will come eventually.
Please point out where I was a dick. I'm never uncivil when writing.He asked if anyone knew anything, and it was highly doubtful at that point that anyone knew anything. If it was important, it will come out. There's nothing more to this than that. He than told me to relax, then I said that I was entirely relaxed, and everyone thought I was mad (wtf?).
Let's look at my sentences:
1st: the call was around nine, soon after this was posted, there were more things for writers to be focused on (first round of NFL draft). It was highly unlikely that anyone (writer wise) could get ahold of him at that leg of night.
2nd: Most tweets aren't important when it comes to recruiting. Fact. If it was important, it'll come out in a "Catching up with..." or quick bits. You aren't going to get instant info from a recruit so the thread was oddly timed.
3rd: Summary of second.
Where's the anger in those? UpNorthBuckeye?
He then told me to chill.
4th sentence (second response): I was entirely relaxed, there was no need to tell me to chill. What else was I supposed to say? If I had said "rawr I'm mad at you, rageragerage" you all would have elicited a worse response lol.
So where exactly was I mean, dickish, or a jerk? I know what I said and how I said it for a reason. I live by "say what you mean, mean what you say".
I don't think I've ever broken the commenting policy, but attacking me is really childish.
I think it was the tone of what you wrote. What you intended may not have been how it came off. Listing all of those reasons why no one will know anything yet makes it sound like you are calling him an idiot for even asking about it. Also calling someone out for even making the thread in the first place is always going to sound dickish no matter how right you might be.
You could have said:
"It will be interesting to see how this plays out, I am curious to hear what comes out over the next couple days since we probably won't know anything for a little while."
IMO, telling another poster that he need not create a thread on a topic of his intrest, because you didn't think it was necessary, is where the problem lies. Though I really don't think it is a problem. Anyone can post/create what they desire, as long as it adheres to 11W guidelines. We all have different emotions, patience levels and thoughts. We can all learn a thing or two from each other, if we can try hard to understand things being discussed. If you don't want to discuss a thread, don't.
We are all Bucknut crazy, things roll along, and we'll be partying like rockstars together soon enough to welcome Miami, OH to Columbus.
EDIT: 11W is stupendous. All posters combined make this site awesome. I don't agree with everything that is typed in. I'll state my case and then it's time to move on to something else in the CYBER BUCKNUT WORLD. Usually a disagreement is such a small thing. The smaller we can keep them, the bigger the good stuff on the site becomes.
So it's okay for me to post a new thread everytime a potential commit tweets about OSU, the Buckeyes, the Silver Bullets, or the coaching staff? That's what you're saying, correct? Just trying to see things clearly.
Perhaps we should have a "Recruit Name | Class Year | Official Thread" system similar to BuckeyePlanet, as to focus things. That seems to make sense...anyone else agree? We could shove all their tweets, interviews, and such things in there (at least until we get the new recruiting DB that we keep hearing about). Finding solutions within conflict!
Sure, Recruitbuck. Dude, let it go. Not everyone has to like you. You defended yourself, no need to keep beating this dead horse. You're not going to convince everyone to like you.
It's the totality of it all, Recruit. In itself it's probably not super dick-ish, but taken in the context of the rest of your comments, it's enough for people pop off. You're kind of the annoying know-it-all of the 11W commentariat: you are always telling people what they should post, how they should post, correcting people's mistakes, bragging about who posted something first. That doesn't bother me all that much but by the sounds of most of the people on here (and how quickly they dogpile on a negative post against you), it's not the best way to make friends and might land you somewhere in the ballpark of being a jerk despite how vigorously you defend yourself against such an appellation. So take that for what's it worth; not trying to be a jerk in return. Just what you called yourself, blunt and to the point.
"You're kind of the annoying know-it-all of the 11W commentariat: you are always telling people what they should post, how they should post, correcting people's mistakes, bragging about who posted something first."
I don't tell people what to post. I just thought aloud that lately there's been a lot of "look what so and so tweeted" threads, which could be posted on a pre-existing thread.
I don't tell people how to post
I correct people's mistakes because I read everything. I don't want people to be misinformed. I will stand by what I say and take criticism when what I've reported is factually wrong.
I've never bragged about posting something first. Looking through my post history, that was one of the few times I've ever mentioned it.
Seriously, look through my post history. I post what I read because I find it interesting and not everyone can find all information. Gene and Alex are the only ones I know who do the same. I don't want people to be misinformed. I don't brag about anything. If you don't believe me, dive into my history.
One thing I've found funny is that I intentionally troll the Craigslist forums and they love me, I try to do the opposite here and the result quite the opposite.
My girlfriend is changing my password and I'm moving back to an old account.
Sorry to those I've offended, I'll try and be better.
Lots of love to those few who like what I posted with this account lol. See you later guys.
Recruit, after reading your responses I just really want to say, " I am sorry. I am sorry I took your lunch money as a kid and you now are overly sensitive to the slightest criticism. I realize I was wrong and if you leave your address here, I will mail all funds with haste." Sorry, couldn't resist bro. Have a laugh man! You'll feel better.
I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.
What the hell ... I look at this thread and see some new comments ... but none are about Derrick ... can we please keep this about the recruit ... all this other stuff isn't needed ...
BuckInBama, wrockhold: I agree. I was excited to see the topic bumped in the forum, hoping to find some follow-up information on the tweet. Instead, I see that the post turned into an argument that could have been completely alleviated with a simple "my bad." Everyone needs to re-read the commenting policy, specifically the section titled "Keep Perspective & Have Fun."
Gordon Gee's signature is on my diploma. I'm proud of that. Class of 2008
haha. If you have a problem with me, here is my twitter information. Anyone else see the irony in that? Get at me bro! Not trying to add fuel to the fire, but that was funny.
Well, considering it takes awhile to get a hold of a recruit, it was past 9PM, and the NFL draft was on, I think only he and his family know. Chill, there'll be news if it was important; there needn't be a thread for every tweet about OSU recruiting. The information will come eventually.
Alright man relax
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I am relaxed, thank you for your concern.
@recruitbuck... don't comment on the thread if it bothers you!
@Fail... some of us here appreciate it! Thanks for the update and keep us informed if you hear anything else.
GO BUCKS!!
Everything bothers him if its not coming from his own mouth...its usually best to ignore it...
On topic, it looks like he's made a few comments about "just talked to so-and-so's coach" throughout the past couple weeks and I don't think much will transpire from this single conversation. Its got to be a good sign that they are talking, especially since he recently made a comment that he has only talked to Urban once
"Love my State, hate the football"
Why are you so angry recruitbuck?
Muck Fichigan
Thanks alot Fail good to hear some positive news about green I thought we were out on him. Wtf recruit buck chill out man, your amongst la familia Holmes
Follow me @jaythesportsguy
I'm not angry guys lol? I'm not sure what else I was supposed to say?
Don't tell me what to do Buckeyenation, the thread doesn't bother me (trust me, I want Green more than most other offensive commits), the timing was just a bit off (considering most writing staff would be writing about the draft, not investigating a phonecall to a kid past 9PM minutes before, it would be highly unlikely that he would answer any reporters)
Wtf Northbuckeye, if you have a problem with me please tell me (find me on Twitter @officialmtj), don't say shit about me. I've never done anything to you.
It doesn't come out of my mouth, it comes out of my keyboard (fingers if you will) btw. The tone wasn't angry, like I said:
Tells me to chill when I'm entirely relaxed, I replied that I was entirely relaxed lol, what else was I supposed to say? I love how you guys tell me to "chill" when I'm perfectly fine, the only thing that can ever accomplish is getting people pissed off. Please, tell me what else I'm supposed to say.
"Don't be a jerk" is the golden rule of the commenting policy. I'm not sure I've done anything wrong besides delivering the straight truth [yes, that pisses people off sometimes, get over it], but the unwarrented attacks against me are unnecessary (@UpNorthBuckeye).
It is often difficult to determine one's tone, sarcasm, etc. when reading a message forum, but there are occasions where you come off as being somewhat harsh RecruitBuck. I don't think you intend to do it so I've given you the benefit of the doubt, but I could see where some interpret it negatively. Just something to think about
So you're saying I should sugarcoat things rather than telling the real truth? I don't speculate just based on guesses, I make predictions and am usually right.
So what if I'm blunt and am going to be firm on where I stand on things as far as they're reported. If you guys don't like that, that's your fault, not ground for attack. Sorry, you can't change my personality; I'm not a jerk, I just like to think that I know about what I'm typing about, which is why I'm often the first to report on here breaking commits (except Bosa/Neal, I was actually working at work) etc.
I'm not "harsh", I'm blunt. There's a difference, I check my fanhood at the door.
It's not that I don't like you guys (as UpNorthBuckeye seems to insinuate, I love you guys lol), it's that I usually know what I'm talking about. I love it here, after visiting Rivals/Scout/247 boards. This and TheOzone's forums are awesome, except there's typically more people commenting here.
Remember everyone, theres people of ALL ages who post here...I think some people show their age more so than others. In the words of a great philosopher "Can't we all just get along"!
Haha very true. I'll try (hard) to be more cheerful, guys :)
I do agree that not every tweet deserves a thread. However, you can tell the truth while maintaining some level of civility, and without sounding like a dick. And how long should someone wait after reading a tweet before posting?
I think this guy read the tweet and thought that we had backed off of Green, but when the head coach is calling maybe that is contradicted a bit. He just wanted some update if there was one and I don't think he needed one that night, just as soon as anyone had heard anything.
Back on topic: I am interested to know what our standing is with him and how hard our staff is going after him, since a call indicates pretty solid interest.
I never lost a sense of civility or was a dick?
Please point out where I was a dick. I'm never uncivil when writing.He asked if anyone knew anything, and it was highly doubtful at that point that anyone knew anything. If it was important, it will come out. There's nothing more to this than that. He than told me to relax, then I said that I was entirely relaxed, and everyone thought I was mad (wtf?).
Let's look at my sentences:
1st: the call was around nine, soon after this was posted, there were more things for writers to be focused on (first round of NFL draft). It was highly unlikely that anyone (writer wise) could get ahold of him at that leg of night.
2nd: Most tweets aren't important when it comes to recruiting. Fact. If it was important, it'll come out in a "Catching up with..." or quick bits. You aren't going to get instant info from a recruit so the thread was oddly timed.
3rd: Summary of second.
Where's the anger in those? UpNorthBuckeye?
He then told me to chill.
4th sentence (second response): I was entirely relaxed, there was no need to tell me to chill. What else was I supposed to say? If I had said "rawr I'm mad at you, rageragerage" you all would have elicited a worse response lol.
So where exactly was I mean, dickish, or a jerk? I know what I said and how I said it for a reason. I live by "say what you mean, mean what you say".
I don't think I've ever broken the commenting policy, but attacking me is really childish.
I think it was the tone of what you wrote. What you intended may not have been how it came off. Listing all of those reasons why no one will know anything yet makes it sound like you are calling him an idiot for even asking about it. Also calling someone out for even making the thread in the first place is always going to sound dickish no matter how right you might be.
You could have said:
"It will be interesting to see how this plays out, I am curious to hear what comes out over the next couple days since we probably won't know anything for a little while."
Like I said, if they have a problem with me, my Twitter information is posted above.
C'mon people, let's move on from this arguing!
I would love to see Green warm back up to the Bucks. That kind of speed is something you don't see every day.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
There was no arguing before people started attacking me, like always on here.
I defend myself and my ideas, I don't know what's wrong with that. I don't sling mud, I sling facts.
IMO, telling another poster that he need not create a thread on a topic of his intrest, because you didn't think it was necessary, is where the problem lies. Though I really don't think it is a problem. Anyone can post/create what they desire, as long as it adheres to 11W guidelines. We all have different emotions, patience levels and thoughts. We can all learn a thing or two from each other, if we can try hard to understand things being discussed. If you don't want to discuss a thread, don't.
We are all Bucknut crazy, things roll along, and we'll be partying like rockstars together soon enough to welcome Miami, OH to Columbus.
EDIT: 11W is stupendous. All posters combined make this site awesome. I don't agree with everything that is typed in. I'll state my case and then it's time to move on to something else in the CYBER BUCKNUT WORLD. Usually a disagreement is such a small thing. The smaller we can keep them, the bigger the good stuff on the site becomes.
So it's okay for me to post a new thread everytime a potential commit tweets about OSU, the Buckeyes, the Silver Bullets, or the coaching staff? That's what you're saying, correct? Just trying to see things clearly.
Perhaps we should have a "Recruit Name | Class Year | Official Thread" system similar to BuckeyePlanet, as to focus things. That seems to make sense...anyone else agree? We could shove all their tweets, interviews, and such things in there (at least until we get the new recruiting DB that we keep hearing about). Finding solutions within conflict!
Sure, Recruitbuck. Dude, let it go. Not everyone has to like you. You defended yourself, no need to keep beating this dead horse. You're not going to convince everyone to like you.
@NYC,
I don't care if people like me or not (if you don't have haters, you aren't doing it right).
I care when people attack me, there's a difference. If you don't like me, that's not grounds for attacking.
Okay, well you defended yourself. What's the point of keeping at it? We're all Buckeyes here. Koombayah.
It's the totality of it all, Recruit. In itself it's probably not super dick-ish, but taken in the context of the rest of your comments, it's enough for people pop off. You're kind of the annoying know-it-all of the 11W commentariat: you are always telling people what they should post, how they should post, correcting people's mistakes, bragging about who posted something first. That doesn't bother me all that much but by the sounds of most of the people on here (and how quickly they dogpile on a negative post against you), it's not the best way to make friends and might land you somewhere in the ballpark of being a jerk despite how vigorously you defend yourself against such an appellation. So take that for what's it worth; not trying to be a jerk in return. Just what you called yourself, blunt and to the point.
Seriously, look through my post history. I post what I read because I find it interesting and not everyone can find all information. Gene and Alex are the only ones I know who do the same. I don't want people to be misinformed. I don't brag about anything. If you don't believe me, dive into my history.
It's a long way until the season starts.
One thing I've found funny is that I intentionally troll the Craigslist forums and they love me, I try to do the opposite here and the result quite the opposite.
My girlfriend is changing my password and I'm moving back to an old account.
Sorry to those I've offended, I'll try and be better.
Lots of love to those few who like what I posted with this account lol. See you later guys.
Sooooo....how about them Yankees
So how about Derrick Green?
Recruit, I hope I can find out your new (well, old I guess) username because I truly appreciate all the info you bring to this site
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
These forums have been trending towards annoying at best the past few months. People are being amazingly beat street.
^^^ second that about enjoying RecruitBucks info
Recruit, after reading your responses I just really want to say, " I am sorry. I am sorry I took your lunch money as a kid and you now are overly sensitive to the slightest criticism. I realize I was wrong and if you leave your address here, I will mail all funds with haste." Sorry, couldn't resist bro. Have a laugh man! You'll feel better.
I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.
What the hell ... I look at this thread and see some new comments ... but none are about Derrick ... can we please keep this about the recruit ... all this other stuff isn't needed ...
Maybe time for an updated comment policy? All these back and forths lately are ridiculous.
What's with all these damn Michigan fans here, anyway? /s/
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
BuckInBama, wrockhold: I agree. I was excited to see the topic bumped in the forum, hoping to find some follow-up information on the tweet. Instead, I see that the post turned into an argument that could have been completely alleviated with a simple "my bad." Everyone needs to re-read the commenting policy, specifically the section titled "Keep Perspective & Have Fun."
Gordon Gee's signature is on my diploma. I'm proud of that. Class of 2008
Don't forget about this nice comment:
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/football/2012/04/levenberry-to-fsu-per-espn
jw
I am trying to get an interview with him. He messaged me on FB and said everyone is still equal.
haha. If you have a problem with me, here is my twitter information. Anyone else see the irony in that? Get at me bro! Not trying to add fuel to the fire, but that was funny.
Your nuts recruit block lol.
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