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I think they should send him back down to Texas. Clearly not a cold weather guy. Hes pretty fail and has baby hands.

I watched every Browns game and respectfully disagree with you RecruitBuck. Before I get into it, I was against the Weeden pick. I wanted to get RB, WR, and OL with our top three picks and give McCoy one more year to see what he can do (and if he still sucks we go all in for Matt Barkley). 

That being said, Colt McCoy was completely ineffective last season. He is scared against the blitz (so teams blitzed at an astounding rate), he can't throw downfield, he doesn't anticipate throws, he is inaccurate even in the short-passing game (was supposed to be his strength), and he simply couldn't move the ball. He was able to put together some late-fourth-quarter drives but for the first 3 and a half quarters he was Mr. Irrelevant. Part of the blame goes to the coaching staff and the offensive playcalling, but to me McCoy shoulders a large portion of the blame for the Browns scoring a measly 13.6 or so points per game.

McCoy supporters cannot point to anything in his game to justify their support. They either say that he won in college or that he's tough. Both true, but it takes more than that to lead your team to the Super Bowl. 

Weedens numbers vs pressure were the worst in the country. Not sure how you think that screams upgrade to me. Big arm no question, but he's a reach at 22. He would od been on the board at 37 and probably further.

Not a Browns fan but thought Colt deserved a shot this year.    He had no training camp last year, a new coaching staff,and no weapons around him.    If nothing improves then give up next years draft for Barkley.    

I agree Weeden was a reach at 22, but his arm alone makes him an upgrade because he will be able to stretch the field. The west coast offense utilized in 1990 and run by Colt McCoy does not work any more. You have to be able to stretch the field and throw the ball downfield in order for the short passing game to be effective. 

I would have been fine with giving McCoy another shot this year- in fact I would have preferred it over Weeden.. but it isn't because I like Colt McCoy

Same river of crap and us Browns fan are swimming in it. I don't like the Weeden pick. And I am torn on McCoy.

I wasn't sold on him as a starting QB in the NFL when they drafted him, but I feel like he has not gotten a fair shake at trying to be a starter. In his 1st year under Mangini the offense was a piece of crap with Peyton Hillis being the only bright spot. Then Mangini gets fired and they bring in Shurmur to run the West Coast, but in order to run the West Coast you have to have receivers who can separate and make plays. Look at the Browns roster, do you see anyone on the roster who an opposing defense looks at and is nervous about facing? And don't say Josh Cribbs, he's not a true receiver. I feel like Colt was playing QB last year with one hand tied behind his back because the Browns gave him NOTHING to work with. 

And what do they think they are gonna be able to get for an unproven QB? Cleveland needs playmakers. Why does it seem like Mike Holmgren is not exactly the genius everybody thinks he is? 

I wasn't in favor of the Weedon pick, but I think it can work if the Browns draft well from here on out.  Look at the players that are still on the board that were potential first round picks:  Jonathan Martin, Cordy Glenn, Stephen Hill, Mike Adams, Reuben Randle, and Alshon Jeffrey.  And there are three other players that I think have first round talent and fit needs in Mohammed Sanu, Bobbie Massie, and Lavonte David. 

I think the Browns could even take a player with the 37 pick and move back into the second round by packaging some of their later picks (and maybe McCoy).  If the Browns could get one of Hill/Randle/Jeffrey/Sanu (I actually Sanu would be the best fit) and one of Martin/Glenn/Massie I think we could lable this draft a success.  It's possible that one of these guys might still be there with the Brown's third round pick (I'm looking at you Mike Adams).

Put McCoy behind a stout O-line and I guarantee he will pick you apart.  He is the most accurate college QB I have ever witnessed.  He wouldn't have been successful in college without a strong O-line, and he won't be successful in pros without the same.

If that's the case then why aren't teams clamoring to bring him in as a starter now that he is on the trading block?

Colt McCoy is more of a game manager QB than one that is going to pick you apart. Yes he was awesome in college only because he had studs all around him. Not that he does not he is being exposed for what he really is. Cleveland needs to get a run game going so they dont have to rely on McCoy's arm as much.

Colt McCoy is not an starting NFL QB. Which sucks, b/c I really like the guy, and love to root for him, especially compared to some of the qb's in the league. (Rivers, Cutler, and Rapistburger come to mind). To put it in perspective, Brady Quinn has similar career numbers (I'll admit with probably a more talented supporting cast) and Tim Couch was way better (with a significantly worse team around him.) I don't think we should've drafted Weeden, (I don't think Aaron Rodgers could succeed w/ Cleveland's offense around him, so how is a 28 yr old rookie going to) but Colt McCoy is not the answer.

Doesnt matter who the QB is , they just have to teach him how to throw the ball to a receiver that isnt open and do it while running from 3 or 4 deffenders comming at him virtualy unblocked. If they get a QB like that then ill be happy otherwise they need to fix the rest of the offense first.

Browns led the league with 33 drops - guess that was his fault too

This was and is a bad team. These picks will not increase the win total

As a lifelong Browns fan I feel like I should just bite the bullet and get a leather maker to fashion a permanent paperbag to wear to games. 

So Vontez and another WR will save the browns season? Get real. That franchise is cursed!

I hope them the best every year as well. Just never seems to get any better though unfortunately.

@DMCDOUGAL- Man I fell like your speaking for me. I've been trying to articulate these same sentiments to my fellow Browns fans but i get so frustrated and angry with their aruguments i just get incensed.

I do feel bad for Colt. I think he'll eventually be a solid starter down the road. Just wasn't the right time and place in Cleveland for a number of reasons.

I am a Cleveland Browns fan and have been for my whole life (31 years) . I remember the good old days of Browns football in the 1980's with Bernie Kosar, Webster Slaughter, Ozzie Newsome, Kevin Mack, Ernest Byner, Clay Matthews, etc. I remember watching them on TV when they used to actually win games and going to playoff games in the old stadium. Fast forward to 1995 when Art Modell moved the team to Baltimore to become the Ravens. The three seasons 96, 97, & 98 were hard for me because my team didn't even exist. Then came 1999 and the "new" Browns returned to Cleveland.

Since 1999 the "new" Browns have been awful. They've had only 2 winning seasons, and made the playoffs just once. With the claim that Brandon Weeden was drafted to be their starting QB, that will mean since Tim Couch was drafted #1 overall in the 1999 draft, 17 quarterbacks will have started a game for the Browns since returning to the league.  The Browns have had 5 head coaches since 1999 (6 if you include the interim coach named after Buctch Davis resigned). Plain and simple, the 'new' Browns have been nothing more than a river of crap that all fans have been swimming in since their return to Cleveland. Being a Browns fan, especially now, is not easy. Browns fans are starving for something, anything, to be remotely excited about. As I tell all my friends, being a Browns fans keeps me humble. 

I don't believe in curses, but heck, maybe the Browns are cursed. The organization is a graveyard for coaches, for quarterbacks, and for fans. And I've said all of this just to say that Colt McCoy was doomed from the start by coming to Cleveland. I wish him well and hope that he finds some level of success wherever he lands. 

Hey everyone! This is my first post........Good to be with my Buckeye Bretheren....as far as McCoy being told the Browns weren't going to take a qb, I'd like to know exactly when they supposedly told him this because in my mind making a play for RG III would have indicated that they were in fact going to take a qb in this draft or at the very least make a trade for one. It, at least to me makes Colt not look so smart................just an observation....I have more things to say about this subject when i have more time to type