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terrible terrible terrible draft pick in my opinon
completely agreed. No quarterback would succeed in that offense. Give Mccoy a chance
Shoulda taken Reiff. Him and Thomas would be very solid on the outside of that line
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Stephen Hill would have been a better pick, and now the -explicit- Ravens, who we all hate so much, get to pick him... WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!
I like Weeden, but not at 21. I wanted Stephen Hill and wait for Weeden at 37...who was gonna take him before 37? Minus a trade up of course.
I don't mind the pick. Provides us with a backup in case McCoy goes down and honestly he very well could surpass McCoy this offseason. He's extremely accurate and throws a wonderful fade route, his skillset would fit the West Coast very well. There are still plenty of quality wide receivers, running backs and offensive lineman left. RBs=James, Martin, Pead and Polk. Oline: Martin, Adams, Sanders, Massie, and Potter are left at the tackle position. At the guard position you still have: Glenn, Osemele, Brown, Brooks, and Allen as quality picks in 2nd-4th rounds. WRs: Ryan Broyles, Joe Adams, Reuben Randle, Juron Criner, Alshon Jeffery, and Mohamed Sanu.
hes good but not 21st good
He's going to have to retire in 4 years what's the point? NEED RECEIVERS
The Browns have opened up entire new dimensions of stupidity with this draft, bizarre quantum dimensions of stupidity where the cat is dead in one box, and in the other box the cat is dead too, but you drafted it in the first round anyway.
@Redstorm Staubach was what 27 as well? Of course your counter argument will be so was Weinke, I presume? The guy was the 2nd best QB in the draft behind Luck. RG3 will be a monumental bust and set back the Redskins another 5-6 years.
You can get a guy like Weeden in the 2nd or 3rd round. Such a reach in the 1st, and he's not much of an upgrade over McCoy. They probably have the worst crop of receivers in the NFL, lost Hillis, and their D is average. Weeden's not a "can't miss guy" and they needed to pick up a 1st round receiver.
Not sure what the demand was for that 3rd overall pick, but they gave up a lot to move up one spot to take a RB in Minnesota's spot when they already have Peterson. Again, don't know what the demand was to move up and get that pick, but just because you have 13 picks doesn't mean it's wise to bundle 3 of them up to move up one spot.
Sorry to all the Kiper worshopers, but Richardson is just as bad a pick. Mark my words, Martin will have a better career, but neither deserves to be top-5, let lone top-20. Trading up for a running back? This isn't 1956, the Browns would be better off picking up a running back with the 227th overall pick. *sigh*. Horrible job today by the Browns management... although I do hope they prove me worng.
RGIII, btw, is the real deal... 1st and 2nd pick were no-brainers.
Heckert said tonite that somebody was going to trade up to get Richardson if they didn't.
Weeden is the same age as Aaron Rodgers. When is he retiring?
The D was 10th in the league, last time I checked Top 10 is pretty damn good. While I agree there were better picks, this wasn't the worse one. Honestly I would've rather had them take Kalil at the 3 since they wasted picks to move up there anyway. Also I think Doug Martin would've been a solid pick at 22 instead. A running back was more important than a WR though. The thing is, there are tons of quality wide receivers left in this draft. Check all of the ones I listed above. Also RG3 is far from the real deal, his throws have no velocity, just like Matt Leinart and besides giving up this years 1st and 2nd plus the next 3 years 1st round picks is insane, no player is worth that many picks.
edit: The Dolphins are out of their minds taking Tannehill with the 8th pick.
Sorry guys but I like the pick. T-rich will be your workhorse RB and will be a stud right from the get go. Weeden has a great arm and nice accuracy. Complain now but I bet he proves you all wrong. They could have done worst and drafted Tannehill!!! At least Weeden fits the west coast!
Obviously Richardson was a great pick. I didn't like weeden at first but it's growing on me. He's a prototype. We will probably end up trading the colt this week which is sad because hes a good player who wasnt put in a position to succeed. With an average o line, no rb, no talent at wr and most of all no offensive philosophy or strategy there is no way he could have succeeded. Sad story and the qb carousel continues in cuyahoga county. Why do you think we are all such loyal buckeye fans? It's it's only winning team we have.
P.s. I do not believe in holmgren yet. I think he's happy to collect money and have unlimited power while our apathetic owner hides behind his European soccer team. Pat shurmur is also an idiot.
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If the Browns made the pick, it was probably a dumb one.
I think should keep McCoy. If Weeden beats him out, still need a solid backup. Seneca Wallace is no longer a viable #2. He is third stringer. I do think Weeden will beat out Colt.
Another thing, the three quarterbacks drafted ahead of Weeden in the draft were all beaten and outperformed by Weeden in their head-to-head matchups.
Weeden vs Stanford: 29/42 for 399 with 3 TDs and 1 INT
Weeden vs Baylor: 24/36 for 274 with 3 TDs and 0 INT
Weeden vs Texas A&M: 47/60 for 438 with 2 TDs and 0 INT.
QB's play defenses, not each other. Also helped he had BLACKMON on his team.
Reference to Weeden's age was slight sarcasm, come on guys. Still, a potential "future" QB being older than your current one? You might get 5 good years out of him at the most. I don't think takinig Weeden helps the 13 points a game offense.
They were 30th in rush defense at 147 yards a game. Houston game? The chunks of yardage come in the passing game, but teams could easily just ball control the Browns last season because they couldn't stop anyone on the ground.
Weeden was drafted to be the starter. Heckert already stated they're going to trade the colt.
Happy with Richardson. Hate the Weedon pick. Im pretty sure Colt needed some receivers to throw to more than the receivers we have needed someone different to throw!
I hope the majority are right about Richardson... he is a first round talent. I just think he isn't a 3 down back (assuming such a thing existed anymore) and the 3rd overall pick gets you a lot of options. I also know that Richardson was going to be a top 5 pick, no doubt others were high on him... I am not. On any given Sunday I would rather have 2+ vetted late round runners behind a line full of first round talent than the number 4 draft pick behind a mediocre line. I still maintain a game-breaking receiver is a big deal for a quarterback, and Blackmon would have helped out Colt. I recognize you set up the run to pass, but lets not overstate how difficult it is to run behind Alabama's line before selecting your first pick. I do think Colt has the tools to get the job done if surrounded by the right talent, but this years draft seemed like we were gunning for Barkley next year.
As far as RGIII, I admit there are risks for him at #2, but I believe he will do better than Luck in his career. As a Buckeye fan, the worst part is believing TP was better than him coming out of HS, but kudos to RGIII for maximizing his talent.
gotta keep in mind that Colt was battered last year. I am sure they were concerned about his health enough to feel they needed a QB. Old or not, still better pick than Tannehill. You get the elite player in T-rich. If Weeden shows up, this is a huge draft for the Browns. Now should try to get Upshaw, Worthy or perhaps Stephen hill to add to your QB and RB.
I just read the trade for T-rich. Now I don't think it was that great of a pick. Give up 3 more picks to move up 1 spot? Not sure about that.
Reiff was there! All the Redskins fans around me were laughing right at me.
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The more I look at this pick, the more I like it. He has the best arm in the draft and is one of the more accurate QBs as well. Age isn't as big of a factor when it comes to QBs since you can barely touch them nowadays. Look at Kurt Warner, his career pretty much started at 28 and he played for 11 years after that. If the Browns can get 6-7 good years out of Weeden this could turn out to be a nice pick. With that being said DeCastro and Reiff were both available and Weeden probably could've been taken with the 37th pick. Although the Browns can still get Cordy Glenn with the 37th or a quality wideout like Broyles, Sanu, Criner, Jeffery, Randle or Adams.
Lions fan here and I'm pretty happy that the Browns didn't take Reiff!
"Love my State, hate the football"
I pray to God I am wrong, but Weeden was the dumbest pick of the draft and if I am right, I will drop my alliegence to them and put my heart somewhere else. After all these years, I have had it! My family has been Dawg Pound season ticket holders since the Sipe Era, and I hve been a fan since birth...... I can't take it anymore!
@AHH SATURDAY - thanks dude, I literally LOL'd. Just finished some time at DARPA where a lot of quantum science stuff is going on. They'd have loved that.
I like the Richardson pick, and I like Weeden as a player, but not picked at that spot. The OL need was more important IMHO. But what do I know, I thought the Ted Ginn draft by my Dolphins was stupid too and look how that turned out. ... oh wait...
Like him or not he will be the starter next season. Just read in the PD that the Browns will start to shop McCoy around to possibly move up in the 2nd round.
"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)
Browns fan here. I wanted Riley Reiff, Courtney Upshaw, or Stephen Hill. I am not a fan of Weeden at all, but what upsets me the most is that he would have been there at 37. Not only are you getting a 28 year old quarterback but you're not even getting him at great value.
I keep trying to remind myself that we still got Trent Richardson. Today I'm hoping they get Reuben Randle, Stephen Hill, Cordy Glenn, or Jonathan Martin at 37. Wouldn't mind seeing Janoris Jenkins either. Hate the Weeden pick.
Like many others I wish they had taken Reiff, but I'm okay with them picking Weedon as long as they don't tolerate another quarterback controversy. Listen, none (well, almost none) of you would be complaining if it weren't for the fact that Weedon is old, but a 28 year old quarterback is fine as long as you don't waste a couple of years with inane quarterback competitions, not to mention the distraction that it would be for the team.
The Browns need to trade McCoy.
On a lighter note, two starting redheaded quarterbacks (Weedon and Dalton) for teams with orange helmets (Browns and Bengals)? That has to be a first, right? And if Dalton is the "Red Rifle", should Weedon be the "Red Rocket"?
"Paralyze resistance with persistence." -Woody Hayes
I thought the Browns had bigger problems than Colt McCoy at QB.
Browns need WR's yet did not get one of the top 3 in this draft. I thought we were giving MCcoy a chance but we take Weeden? I personally would have not taken QB instead get Colt some much needed help.
There is no plan with the Browns. Taking a RB at #3 and then following it up with a 30 year-old QB at 22? It appears Heckert is manic. Last year the Browns don't draft Julio Jones because they want to build from the inside out. This year they panic and take a RB who will be hurt in Week 10 and QB that will retire in Week 12.
What happened to building the line and defense? Claibourne and Haden would have made a fantastic duo and the Browns would still have three more picks! At 22, wasn't the best player available DeCastro? I understand the Browns like their two guards at this point, but DeCastro is a mauler. He makes even more sense if you pick Richardson! The Browns had the opportunity to have the best OL in football (2nd round grab Massie at RT) with DeCastro and a 2nd round right tackle. They also had the opportunity to have the best young CB duo in football.
So frustrating. So bad. What happens when the Browns have the #1 pick next year? They will, just look at the schedule. Pass on Barkley because Weeden is the new face of your franchise? Stupid.
Terrible pick. You use first round picks on quarterbacks that are supposed to be franchise players. Weedon will be 29 in the first month of the season. You cant project that he will be the started for the next 5+ seasons because he will be 34 in his 5th season. Add in the fact that he has had a history of shoulder issues that contributed to his failure as a pitcher and at best he is a short term solution for about 3 to 5 years. And that is a bet case scenario assuming he comes in and plays well from the get go, which is doubtful. The browns still have no receivers and a weak right side of the offensive line. Every profile of Weeden states his biggest negative (other then the fact that he is 28) is that he does not handle pressure well and is not athletic enough to get outside the pocket. So his weaknesses will only be magnified in the Browns offense. This pick makes no sense to me, the Browns have preached building though the draft and getting younger, then they pick a 28 year old rookie QB.
Lol typical Browns... Loved the Richardson pick at 3 didnt understand the Weeden pick at all. I dont think Colt is that bad and is a serviceable QB. Team has alot more needs and like others have said, he would have been there at 37!! Lol
Well, bye bye Colt, which is good b/c McCoy isn't a starting caliber NFL QB. I think this pick means that the Front office thinks we can win soon, b/c you're not really gonna develop a 28 yr old qb. I don't think we have enough pieces in place for aaron Rodgers to succeed in Cleveland, but I'm not working in the NFL either. I didn't like the pick (we could've solved our offensive line problems; I'm a believer that you win football games in the trenches) but at this point, I'm crossing my fingers and praying for Kurt Warner 2.0.
The Browns crapped the bed on both picks. They are behind the curve with the Richardson thing. Too much investment at a position that doesn't matter in the NFL like it used to. Secondly, you take a 28 year QB in the first round of a draft. Conventional wisdom tells you that by the time a first round QB is 28 he should be at the peak of his career. People seem to think Weeden is somehow NFL ready because of his age but his learning curve will be just as steep as any other rookie. You don't take a first round QB with the thinking that he will be able to contribute for a 3-5 year window at age 29-33. This was a total whiff by the Browns.
As for Richardson. They moved up one spot to grab him-my guess is out of fear that perhaps Tampa was going to move up? Regardless. You don't need a 'horse' at RB to win anymore. You don't even need a 35 carry guy to help in the Play Action game anymore. The entire position is changing. Look at your playoff teams-look at your Super Bowl. Running backs aren't worth top 5 consideration anymore. The Browns aren't any closer to Pit or Baltimore today than they were yesterday.
And was there seriously a comparison to Kurt Warner here? Its not a problem that he's 28. Its a problem that you saw him as one of the best 32 players in the draft and that you had to take him. Warner wasn't drafted in the first round. Heck, Warner wasn't drafted at all. Its not the same.
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Should have stayed at #4, take Blackmon, then take Reiff at #22. Colt becomes a better QB with good protection and a great receiver. There are good RBs available in the 3rd and 4th rounds. They can pick aanother lineman or receiver at#37.
Those who stay wil be .......Diinner!!
Just a question...I'm a browns fan. And while I think richardson is a hell of a back, how do you suppose he's going to anywhere against an 8 man front. No one will waste time covering downfeild with a stable full of possession recievers who can't catch a football. Also, they know the can send a three man rush on true passing downs and get to colt. So again, how did you improve our team there holmgren and heckert? You ignored a glaring hole on your o line. You ignored the fact you don't have a single burner to open up the field at wr. You took a qb who has little to no mobility. If you knew you were taking weeden, why in gods name did you not take blackmon? Because weedens stats are directly linked to having blackmon make him look good. And why at 22? you want a starter who can't escape a pass rush. Look at the division...baltimore and pitssburgh kill qbs. And cincy put together a nice pass rush last year. So you get a guy who isn't mobile to stand behind a supect o line and throw the ball into at least 7 in coverage on any given play? Nice. Real nice. I know I'm rambling, just still in shock at how epicly stupid our front office can be.
Peyton Hillis did alright with no passing help
If you want the third pick in the draft to have one good year for you and be off your roster, by all means you can have Richardson. He plays an outdated position in today's NFL. In my opinion, Cleveland should have moved down, out of the top 10 to grab Michael Floyd (best WR in the draft) and stick with DeCastro at 22. You could have gotten a second and probably another third for the pick that was going to be Trent anyway.
When was the last successfull BIG-12 QB in the NFL? The Browns led the NFL with 33 drops passes and McCoy got killed every game. I don't mind the Richardson pick but Weeden was bad. By the time the season start he will be 29 and still have no one to throw to great pick as usual Browns.
It's good to be home.
Not to mention...doug martin was there at 22. And I like martin as a late first rounder far better than trent richardson at number 3.
The jury is still out on Bradford in my opinion but other than that, there isn't much to write home about from the Big 12. Their QB's generally play in systems that do not translate to the NFL. Weeden is no different. If it wasn't for Seattle taking Bruce Irvin at 15, this would be easily the worst pick of the first round.
hillis also had the best fullback in the league in front of him in lawrence vickers(don't believe me? Ask arian foster). And a healthy eric steinbach next to joe thomas. And the playcalling in his breakout year wasn't as dreadfully predictable. Apples to oranges comparison.
Point being, you can have a great offensive line, sick fullback and a 6th round pick running back without any passing game whatsoever and still be effective. Our offensive line isn't great without a good run blocking G and RT. We could have filled both of those holes with the #22 pick and #37 pick. Look for your QB of the future when you have the pieces in places to allow that QB to be successful. The Browns don't have the pieces in place and are staring at a 1-5 win season in 2012 regardless of the QB. Could you imagine Matt Barkley playing behind an OL with Thomas, DeCastro, Mack, Pinkston/Lauvao, and Massie/Glenn/Martin? In year 2 of Barkley, grab him some downfield threats at WR. Makes sense to me. Oh wait. Didn't happen. Instead, we will have a 30 year old QB coming off his first season as a starter on a team that just finished dead last in the division without even putting up a fight and just as many holes as the previous year. I'm steaming mad.
I'm still shocked they did this. Weeden is solid, but you don't draft a 28-29 year old QB if your a bad team. A good team in transition could afford to gamble on him. The Browns needed too much elswhere to piss away a first rounder. We could have had Reiff, DeCastro, or Zeitler. Instead DeCastro goes to Pittsburgh and will spend over a decade proving why the Steelers are a better run franchise and will always own the Browns. FML
Stephen Hill would be a great pick tonight, but he's going to Baltimore.
If the Browns wanted to make a splash, they should have traded up and got Floyd. With Floyd and Richardson, you adress two major needs with stars, and you give the fanbase hope. Floyd with Greg Little gives the Browns two strong great run blocking WR's and help's Richardson in the brutal AFC North. McCoy is the last guy on that offense that should be the blame for anything.
Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.
@LouieG hit it on the head. There was absolutely no deep threat with this team, and they haven't addressed it. I don't mind the Richardson pick, but THREE picks to move up one spot? Another team gave up a 4th rounder to move up a spot. A steal by the Vikings.
The Packers won the Super Bowl with Jayson Stark...you don't need a big time back to win in the NFL anymore.
Weeden won't have anyone close to Blackmon's ability to throw to...so how's that going to work in Cleveland exactly?
With regards to Weeden....
"The third-best quarterback in this draft, Weeden was projected by some to go in the second round, but Heckert said the Browns had to pounce because some teams behind them were prepared to do the same."
everyone needs to chill.
the browns still have 8 picks in this draft. came in with 13 traded 3 to make sure they got richardson. This draft is very deep at WR, many quality guys to be had. And quality OT still on the board. Mike Adams would be a steal in late 2nd or 3rd (if still there, and team is willing to gamble on character issues). Plus, the staff clearly doesnt hold McCoy to high regards, and if you dont trust your QB the offense will not be effective. Now they got their guy, lets see what happens.
side note...how many times do guys get drafted in late rounds or come in as a rookie free agent and end up starting somewhere...happens often
Another thing to consider is with the rookie wage scale, we won't have to pay him traditional first round money. I think hes closer to a finished product than drafting a 22 year old kid. His maturity will be apparent in the huddle and on the sidelines. Hes got a prototype frame (6-3/6-4) 220 lbs, big arm and hes athletic. I believe by drafting a 28 year old we've bypassed the maturing process of a young quarterback. The more I think about this the better I like the move. Lets face it, with weapons or not, there are things on a field the colt just can't do.
plus don't forget, in 5 years he is elligible for his AARP card and the Browns won't have to pay him that much on his second contract! Now all you need is a mentally challenged player and the Browns will be like McDonalds!
Let's look at this objectively instead of as raging browns fans who are used to drafting bust QB's (Couch, Quinn, McCoy). Colt McCoy doesn't have it. Plain and simple. There is a huge need at QB for the browns. Is it the most pressing? Probably not, but let's play the odds game.
There is a good chance that Weeden would have fallen to 37 for the Browns, but if he doesn't , then the QB's remaining are not even 2nd round material. If they take a receiver or tackle and Weeden gets grabbed, we have a huge hole at QB. Now we can still get a wide receiver and tackle that are going to be okay. There is even a chance that Hill falls to 37 and Adams goes into the 3rd, or the browns use McCoy and a little extra to get another 2nd round pick. We could easily come out of this round with Stephen Hill and Mike Adams, addressing every major need of the team.
He may be more grown up than your average 22 year old first round QB but his learning curve is the same as any other rookie QB. That's my problem with him as a first round kid. You are taking all of the risks of mortgaging your future by drafting a first rounder with a lessened opportunity for longer term success. You have a shorter window for the guy who is already going to have his rookie struggles. People are selling the NFL pretty short if they think his age will mean he will adjust to the game faster. He may not be a knuckle head like some rookie kids can be but he is still going to have growing pains at an age where other QB's are expected to be excelling.
You are right, its not his age that will help him adjust faster. Its his experience in the minor leagues. He has been through training camps. He has had expectations put on him to be a professional athlete. He will not struggle like other rookies.
Plus with the rookie wage scale, you don't mortgage your future with first round draft picks anymore. Cleveland got so much from last years trade with Atlanta they could afford to take a bit of a risk with an extra pick. T-rich is the true first round pick this year. That is the player they need to become a star. Weeden is basically a bonus if he pans out or a failed attempt to try to get more talent. It will not push back the Browns progress anymore than sticking with McCoy.
Also, McCoy is pretty banged up after last year. He had a very serious concussion. If I was Cleveland, I would want to at least get another starter quality player because you don't know if Colt will get back on the same track he was before Harrison laid him out (illegally)!
Floyd is super talented, but a head case off the field. I wanted Reiff @ 22, b/c I don't feel like we're close to contending, especially w/ our schedule next year. Regardless, since we have Weeden now, I'm gonna look at the bright side. He's got an absolute cannon for arm, and if he was five years younger he'd definitely go before tannehill, and maybe even before RGIII. I think Colt would suck even if you gave him Green Bay's o-line and wr's, so Weeden will be an upgrade there. And yeah, even though Kurt Warner wasn't drafted, he was still 28 his rookie year. If Weeden turns out to be Joe Flacco for the next 5 years, I think we'll all be happy, and if he has a Warner-like career? He could play until he's 40 if he takes care of himself, he doesn't have 5 years worth of hits on his body. The thing that frustrates me is that it feels like we're starting over again. But hypothetically, lets say Weeden and Richardson (plus whoever else we draft) are worth 13 points a game. We would've won six more games last year. I'll take a 10-6 season.
I'm conditioned to expect that everything the Browns do on draft day will be titanically dumb.
Having said that
1) I don't think taking a RB high in the first round makes any sense in the modern NFL, and trading up in order to do so is even worse;
2) Weeden's age and lack of athletic ability scares me. Not to mention he still would have been there with the second rounder, in all likelihood.
Thanks to inactivity in free agency, the Browns still don't have an elite WR, or a right tackle, or an outside linebacker to replace Fujita (let alone any backups at LB), or enough depth in the secondary. Good luck finding all that in the next few rounds.
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I really do think trading all those picks to move up 1 spot for T-rich was a bigger mistake than taking Weeden. They were bamboozled by Minnesota!
Cleveland can easily land one of: Stephen Hill (just as good as Floyd IMO), Jonthan Martin (was a top 10 pick for most time. Good enough to block for Luck) and Courtney Upshaw (who may not be a true LB but a really strong pass rusher). Cleveland still has alot of picks left in the next couple of rounds. Heck, the fact that Ryan Broyles is available in the 3rd round is sick! That guy may be small but he catches everything!
I also think of it like this as well: Last year Cincinnati drafted AJ Green and Andy Dalton with their 1st and 2nd picks. Cleveland just draft T-Rich and Weeden with their 2 first round picks.
Cincinnati was lauded for their draft and in turn their team went to the playoffs. Cleveland is said to have made bad draft picks.
Now tell me, is there that much of a difference in #1WR, #RB,#1QB for each team?
Cincinnati 2011- AJ Green, Cedric Benson, Andy Dalton
Cleveland 2012 - Greg Little, T-Rich, Brandon Weeden.
I think Cleveland has a better running back and just as good (red-headed) QB. They could still land a top WR tonight to go with Greg Little. I think that is quite the offense. Heck, I like Greg Little so perhaps the Browns should draft Coby fleener for a stud TE.
cincy no longer has benson..they have green-Ellis now...but im not sure of how much an improvement that is..only slightly (imo)
but good points
It's a strange pick. Either they know something we don't about McCoy, or see something in Weeden they really like...if they were going to draft a QB I don't understand why Kirk Cousins wasn't the choice.
@squirrel The Browns already have Ben Watson and signed Evan Moore to a new contract. I don't think they are going to draft Fleener, as good as he is.
Dan, Hence why I put Cincinnati as 2011. Last years top 3 vs Browns this years top 3. Benjarvis I think is an upgrade just because he is a younger, hungrier back than Benson was last year.
Yeah, I saw those TEs on browns team. Ben Watson is not going to do much outside of blocking. Moore could be intriguing. I am sure Stephen Hill would be a nice grab either way. Point being, still alot of talent that will fit the browns needs. I think Jonathan Martin would be a nice bookend to Thomas! Then Weeden has no excuse to not succeed. Stud RB, great tackles and at least 1 decent WR. I wonder if a decent QB could get Cribbs to finally break out!
@squirrel...my bad, skimmed it while at work so i wasnt paying attention to details, haha.
McCoy won't be on the roster come preseason starts
^ Green Bay seems like the team that is most interested in McCoy. Feel bad for McCoy with how Holmgren/Heckert have treated him.
Unreal bad drafting by the Browns. The same braintrust that loves the super old qb just two years ago loved Colt too and said his whole problem was drops and playmakers. The Browns need some sort of executive office workplace shooter to clear out the deadweight of the 27 or so high level executives they have pissing away the lives of their fanbase.
I read where Weedman is immobile (can you say statute) and will take a lot of hits. At the wrong OSU, he played in a spread and will have to remember how to play under center.
Given the status of the Browns line (notwithstanding the 2nd round questionable pick), he had better be able to move in the pocket . Otherwise could be a real short season for gramps
And no WR through round 3. Could have had Posey, but no
I swear Weeden looks exactly like Steve the Pirate from dodgeball...
John Hughes!?!?!? We draft Cincinnati's second best DT? "YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!" -John McEnroe
Another funny one I noticed. Harrison Smith from ND looks like Steve-O from jackass.
I can see the headline on the next steelers-browns game, "adams smoked weeden". lol
Btw when was the last time Weeden played regularly under center? 11yrs ago?
I'm not crazy about the pick but all this pro Colt talk is revolting! Wtf are you people watching?!? This guy has done NOTHING to prove he's capable of being a consistent and productive QB in this leauge. Even when his wr's are wide open he still misses em with ease. And yeah Weeden did play exclusively under shotgun, as if Colt didn't? All these Big 12 offenses are the same and is was Ok for Colt because he's "such a winner" and "tough" Gimmie a break. While you do need those attributes, but not nearly as much as accuracy and ability. two things sorely lacking in Colt Mccoy
Dude when did I pep talk Colt. I'm pointing out Weeden is crap too. Picked way earlier.
WR Travis Benjamin to the Browns
Awesome a 5'9 KR in an era where the KR is dying from rules and we already overpay a KR pretending to play WR. (Puts paper bag back on head).
Jesus I don't like all of the browns picks either, but the last two draft the browns have done well, so lets give them a little break.
This draft just solidifes that the Browns front office has no idea what they're doing. $10 mill a year for Holmgren, and they are absolutely clueless in the draft. Minnesota baited them on the 3rd overall pick, and they were the only suckers to take it. If Tampa really was interested in that pick and Richardson, why hadn't they completed a deal up before draft day? Browns had the trade done just 2 hours before the draft started, come on man. Weeden was a REACH at best. Hughes wasn't in the top 300 of most draft analysts. Round 4 for a WR??? You have no #1, and you take a 5'9'' guy who had 3 TD receptions all of last year? I can't take it. Holmgren looks as good as Scott Howson right now.
Brandon Weeden=Tim Couch 2.0
Mike Leach was OC at Kentucky with Couch. Dana Holgorsen learned the air raid at Tech, took it to fakeOSU where Weeden was the QB......GOOD LUCK BROWNS!
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