PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
Never would have guessed...good luck to him though
"Love my State, hate the football"
Enjoy the Motor City Bowl Adam.
Bummer but your right Alex on to Mike Heuerman.
Hard to recruit against strong emotional ties to a university. Wish him well except for one game each year. ;)
I bet Josh McNeil is happy :)
Read that Breneman told Alex Anzalone that once he commits he is really going to recruit him hard. We know that's to PSU now.
Alex Anzalone might actually want to win championships though...Breneman isn't going to have much luck recruiting anyone thankfully
Music to the ears of Josh McNeil
Picking PSU before the fed's are done with them....very shocking but I think we all saw this coming.
It's starting to look like a one-year hiccup for PSU.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
Alex Anzalone visiting at end of month still makes me feel good with him still, if he still makes that trip, gotta feel good about Urban maybe having last look if he committs sometime after that in early April.
Favorite Buckeye: Obviously BJ Mullens
He better not shower in the football complex...
I'm just amazed that kids are going to PSU, given what (allegedly) happened with Sandusky. Breneman tweeted something to the effect of "#ReturnTheRoar"- I highly doubt the roar will soon drown out the sounds of the children.
If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target
I highly doubt the roar will soon drown out the sounds of the children.
I highly doubt the roar will soon drown out the sounds of the children.
Oh, be quiet.
A lot of mistakes went down out Penn State, and their program is paying for it and cleaning it up. The Penn State board of trustees handled the scandal in the best way they could. They cleaned house and they have every right to start moving forward again. "The children" (who I doubt who truly care about, as evidenced in your exploitation of them so you could make a clever slight at Penn State over the internet) have and should have their attention directed towards Sandusky and those no longer a part of Penn State.
October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day
As long as the Penn State avoids any kind of major sanctions, it is looking like they are going to replace Wisconsin as our main competition in the Leaders division. Just think if we did not get half of their last recruiting class to switch.
I told all of you Bill O'brien was a good hire. I also told you all that American's have short memories and that the scandal would not affect Penn State long term. If O'brien can coach half as well as he can recruit, Penn State will be a force, and there should be some epic Meyer vs. Obrien games in the future to decide the Leaders division. If Wisconsin can keep building on their success these past few years, if PSU and OSU return to being perrennial top 10 programs, and if Illinois becomes more competitive under Beckman, the Leaders division may very well be akin to the SEC West in a few years. May very well have a year where we see four teams out of this division ranked with three in the Top 10-15.
Lets all not jump to conclusions on PSU. Is PSU going to have further problems from the investigation? Probably, but we don't know. Is BOB a good hire? Still to be determined hasn't coached a game yet, most coaches have their best recruiting class in their 1st year. Is their a chance Breneman decommits? Doubt it, kid lives 90 minutes away from Happy Valley and even if the investigation gets worse he may still stay close to home. So lets just see how the whole PSU thing pans out, if the investigation gets worse, recruits may decommit but that may not be for while. Good Luck Breneman, Buckeye Nation: on to the next one!
most coaches have their best recruiting class in their 1st year.
I disagree. Off the top of my head, I can think of several coaches that had subpar recruiting classes in their first year when compared to their predecessor: Tressel (albeit, that first class he brought in ended up being pretty damn good, but wasn't necessarily highly touted), Les Miles (LSU went from the #2 recruiting class under Saban in 2004 to 19th in 2005 under Les), Chip Kelly (9th and 23rd the two years before he came, unranked recruiting class in his first year), Charlie Weis (an unspectatcular 27th ranked recruiting class in his first year, far below Notre Dame standards), Gene Chizik (16th ranked class his first year... not bad, but certainly not his best "in his first year"). Hell, even Saban's first class in 2007 was ranked four spots lower (18th to 22nd) in his first year than the previous year's recruiting class. And not that any of these classes were actually "subpar" by talent standards, but they certainly weren't "their best recruiting class". All of these coaches would go on to have MUCH better recruiting classes in the future.
Give credit where credit is due. So far, Bill O'Brien is doing pretty well on the recruiting trail, all things considered.
further more, even the Zooker - known for his recruiting - did not even have close to his best recruiting class in his first year at Illinois. His classes in his first four years were ranked 46th, 28th, 20th, and 19th (his best class). How bout Randy Shannon? There was a lot of buzz about how well he was recruiting down at Miami. His first class was ranked 13th. His second class was ranked 3rd.
So, no, coaches don't generally have their best recruiting class in their first year and I'm not sure where you got that from.
Sorry Doug... one more thought...
If you were to have said "coaches generally have their best recruiting classes in their second year", then I might be inclined to agree with that, as that's the year that coaches have their first full year to recruit and what not, and anecdotal evidence suggests coaches do pretty damn well in their second year recruiting. And since this would technically be BOB's second recruiting class (the 2012 recruiting class is by all accounts his first), then, yes, there's nothing to get too excited about over BOB's recruiting for 2013 (although I think it's much tougher to sell Penn State these days, so in that regard he has certainly impressed me).
Not to be Mr. Morals, but I also think that the Penn State jokes are in bad taste and inappropriate. I don't think there's a place for talking about the screams of crying children after what went down.
Good luck to Adam, he has the opportunity to play for his favorite team and he capitalized on it. I don't think anyone should blame him and I don't see anyone doing that. I take comfort in that if Penn State gets hit with sanctions I know we have a good tight end that we can swoop up.
Otherwise, I hope Anzalone doesn't get swayed. He has a brother at PSU as well, so there will be constant pressure to commit to Penn State.
@Humble: I actually saw someone post it on Bucknuts. I look at it this way, in the first year a coach puts in his system recruits are drawn to "writing the ship" and their is a new excitement to a program, so a program will generate additional interest in athletes that may have not considered the program before the coaching change. But if the coach and program is unsuccessful in winning quickly, the following years it is a little harder for that coach to "sell" his program. I feel that if a program does not turn it around quickly the "quality" of recruit may not be attracted to that program. Thanks for the stats they were interesting!
@ Humble: I did mean their first full year recruiting, but technically their second year. So what we have hear is a failure to communicate! You sir are a gentlemen and a scholar, I salute you
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