Taking a look at the unofficial 40 times for the WRs, the SEC speed is certainly a myth in this group. Posey just put up a 4.37 on his first run (unofficially). Not too bad.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker
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•Football Schedule•Basketball Schedule•Forum•About•ContactTaking a look at the unofficial 40 times for the WRs, the SEC speed is certainly a myth in this group. Posey just put up a 4.37 on his first run (unofficially). Not too bad.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker
Didn't Joey Galloway run a 4.18 or something absurd?
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Good for him. That won't hurt his stock.
yeah, Galloway did "run" that. im not saying its wrong, but it was before electronic timing was used. so it could be off just a bit, impressive none-the-less. And it's showing a 4.50 for Posey now, which seems more accurate to me.
Everyone moved back a bit, not surprisingly, but his time seemed to get docked more than some others. Hill from GT looked good and he is a big dude. Herron had like 4.68 unofficially so probalby slower than 4.7 after all is said and done.
Joey Galloway was a beast. I read that boy could bench press over 500 pounds! If Ohio State could get another reciever like him, we'd have it made!
Erie Page from Toledo only ran a 4.6... After watching him tear our defense and special teams to shreds, I'm surprised by this
Posey just made himself some money with running a 4.37. Doesn't mean he will be a great WR at the next level but NFL teams will move his stock up with a time like that. Well done Posey!
Like someone said above, his time was adjusted to a 4.5. That does seem right judging from what I saw on the field over the years.
With limited senior film, and a blazing 40, I am confident Posey will be a Raider! lol
These combine workouts are interesting but are certainly not a great measuring stick for a great NfL career.
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Mike Adams embarrassed himself at the combine. 19 reps?
if Mike Adams, embarrassing bench press numbers arent an indictment of the pre-Urban strength and conditioning regime, i dont know what else would serve as such. At my peak, i was benching 225 seventeen times... at 198 pounds.
^This. I watched Adams run and lift, and was immediately much happier about all the reports I've seen about the new strength and conditioning program being brutal. I think we've always been a bit soft. Our great athletes would have been that extra step better with a better program.
Some things you guys say makes me laugh literally out loud. Like these Adams bench press numbers. Um...you do know that the last S&C coach OSU had trained a few guys who put up 40+ reps. Kudla tied the old record and Gholston put up 37 reps. It's not like this guy wasn't a good S&C coach.
I'm excited for the new coaching staff too, but don't forget that the guys OSU has put into the league the last decade have been pretty good
The thing is, being in a program like OSU, and being in the NFL combine, let me say this again, THE NFL COMBINE, and being an OL, you should not be bench pressing 225 in the teens. It should be high twenties to low 30's minimum for an OL.
I played DE, division III football, and my best bench was junior year at 208 of 19 reps (unofficial in my basement), and 17 reps being tested. My one buddy actually got 36 reps I believe (DT, 6'0"-6'1" at about 270).
The thing is, being in D-1, and about to go into the NFL, an O-lineman should not be in the teens on bench test. I understand bench is not everything, far from it, but come on..... in the teens????
Edit: bench does not equal success in NFL, i understand this, but strength is looked at for an o-lineman. it is a factor
Edit II: by no means am I saying I am sweet or trying to brag, because I am not like that, I am just making a comparison... I am not saying I could beat adams in a 1on1, either, haha
I think any team would be foolish if they can pick up Eric Page in the thrid to fifth round and don't. Frankly, the kid is at least a developable prospect. Worst case scenario, he becomes a good thrid option.
@buckeye06... Lichter joined the staff in June '06, so Kudla was never trained by Lichter, and Gholston - who was a physical freak anyway - only trained under Lichter the latter half of his Buckeye career. Coincidentally, Lichter's hiring coincided with the gradual decline of the Buckeye's offensive line the past five/six seasons. If the combine numbers aren't proof enough, I believe the play on the field has served as such. Bollman and Lichter gave us a soft offensive line these past few years.
You're looking at 1 guys BP numbers and saying the S&C coach wasn't good. Did JL have problems? What about Jenkins? Freeman? Borens?
I mean those guys put up good numbers for their size. You can say the OL wasn't good, because it wasn't, but Brewster put up good numbers in the same exact system.
And OT don't always have huge numbers because they have longer arms so harder to bench. DL with shorter arms put up higher numbers often. Not using this as an excuse but it's another fact
I'm 160 pounds, and if a D1 lineman can't beat me by more than 10 reps at 225, it should raise legitimate questions about that kid's effort in the weight room, and the whole program, empirics aside.
I know you guys are mainly talking about lifting numbers but...
Top 15 performers of ALL positions at each drill from 2006 to this years combine :
I think the difference for me is, there will always be kids who work hard on their own just out of pure motivation to succeed. I went to a poor high school, we didn't even have a S&C coach, but people still left the athletic programs successful on the back of their own hard work. I just feel like Marotti puts the push for every player to work as hard in the weight room as they can day in and day out, and that hasn't happened in the past, as shown in this situation.
Seriously guys, no one cares about how much you can bench.
^^^ I think you read everything completely wrong. I am not saying how much I can bench anyway, right now, I bench much less than what I used to because of work and limited time to work out, but you severely missed the point of these comments.
Like I said several times in my comment, I am not bragging, or boasting, by no means did I make it seem like I was the strongest, or want to get recognition for lifting. What do I have to gain? Nothing. Like I said in Edit II: "by no means am I saying I am sweet or trying to brag, because I am not like that, I am just making a comparison"
This is a comparison. Weight, strength and division comparison. Sorry you saw it as a chance for some people to brag about lifting. But, no offense, I think you misunderstood the overall point that was trying to be made by the people who posted their lifts.
Again, it was for comparison.
Edit: By your response, you make it seem like some are using this as an opportunity to tell people how much they lift, which is inaccurate. I also do not make this to sound as an attack towards you. That is not my intention if it came across that way.
Agreed, Dubjay. Furthermore, none of the weights anyone cited for themselves have been all that impressive, with my own leading the way in the category of mediocrity, so clearly bragging can't be that difficult to rule out.
The point is, for the sake of comparison, Adams should be blowing every poster on a forum out of the water when it comes to strength and conditioning, and it says something about the program.
Mitch Petrus tied the record in 2010 and he was a fifth round draft pick.
Nate Soldier only got 21 reps, and was a first rounder, 17th overall, in 2011.
Stephen Paea broke the record last year and was a second round, 21st pick in 2011.
Michael Brockers, Defensive tackle from LSU is a projected first rounder and he had 19 reps.
So with that said, Mike Adams will be fine.
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Lichter was a poozii! Marotti is all hype!! Gimme my boyz and see what kind of men they become. Hey Urbz, can you hear me? I'll take half the pay for a chance to wear the scarlet and gray on the field! (I'd do it for free if I were a single man). I won't post my numbers because it is irrelevant and I don't want some poster to respond with a cute comment and me not have the ability to sock him one.
For all of you guys clamoring about how strength isn't important, quit trying to make sure self feel better because you lack the work ethic of John Simon. Nothing will ever trump technique. The endurance or ability to go hard the whole game is second most important. Third most important is the ability to use your strength to apply that technique. Perfect example: Royce Gracie vs. Matt Hughes. Matt couldn't touch him on experience and technique. They both had the drive to finish the bout. Was there any doubt on whom the winner was? Gracie couldn't manipulate Hughes. He lacked the strength. Hughes defense and assault was great for what was needed. Different sport, same results.
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You can talk about his bench numbers all day, but fact of the matter is when he came back from suspension, he made the o line better.
I am not disputing that, and I am also not saying bench is all that matters. I am saying that, for being an OT on his way to the NFL, 19 reps at 225 is terrible
All that matters in the long run is if Adams is quick enough to block speed rushers from getting to the QB. Yes he should be benching higher reps with 225 but that is a small concern in the grand scheme of things. A defensive tackle on the other hand is a position that HEAVILY requires great amounts of strength..which something like a bench press could be an important tool to measure that position.
On another note..I think it's stupid that they test the bench press but not the squat. Which is actually more important in football than benching IMO.
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2 Things I found interesting about the numbers at the combine:
Brewster only measured in at 6'2'' (I thought at dude was like 6'4-6'5'')
Boom did more reps 22 on bench than Adams 19 (just to continue the bench talk)
I know right..Brewster was listed at 6'5" I believe his senior year in hs. Just goes to show you don't believe all the heights and weights listed.
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Pretty sure Brewster measured in over 6'4"
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Player College Ht. Wt. 40 Arm Hand Reps
• Michael Brewster Ohio St. 6041 312 5.35 31½ 9½ 29
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Someone wrote 6'2.5 yesterday..one of the staff writers.
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espn had him listed as 6"6'' coming out of high school lol and i never saw him listed smaller than 6'5
Yeah hmm a few sites have him listed as taller, but NFL.com has him at 6'2". Either way that's a crazy discrepency giving yourself an extra 3".
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