PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
pretty hard to fathom when they were the 4th best team in the Big 10.
Michigan gets rewarded by not getting to the B1G title game and being the 2nd best team in their own state.
Class of 2010.
We were definitely the best team in Washtenaw County.
Also, the best team in Franklin County, Ohio. (Based on Capital University's strength-of-schedule.)
not here to argue that Michigan beat Ohio State. Trying to figure the logic of Michigan's ranking.
sounds to me like your butthurt.
Look at Hustons record, did they ever deserve to be#6?
Doest KSU deserve to be up there? Look at South carolina, a team that almost lost to navy and had a close call with east carolina.
I mean how is southern miss ranked, and how was texas even ranked when they had 4 losses?
There are a lot of weak teams this year, I dont see any really strong teams outside of the top 5.
You look at who Michigan is rated over, and besides MSU, I would give Michigan a favorable shot to beat any of those teams. That includes about 5-6 teams above them such as baylor, ksu, vtech and others who michigan could beat as well.
I will be the first to admit that this Michigan team is not a strong one. But the thing is, everyone else is also just as weak. If this were any other year It wouldnt have gone as well.
But looking at the overall landscape, you tell me who is below michigan who would stomp them outside of msu
Please learn to utilize proper spelling and grammar before you post again. Maybe it's too much to ask, but at least give it a try. Thank you
Except for miss spelling the word doesn't and not capitalizing the proper names of the colleges, there wasnt anything else there.
Everyone hates a grammar nazi. Maybe its too much to ask for you to remove the large stick from your butt, but give it a good tug it will come out eventually.
hey MSTEVENS24 do you find it strange that you are on an Ohio State web site, as a Michigan fan, and your posts in this thread contain the words butthurt and "large stick from your butt". Way to represent.
Outside of the butthurt comment i thought his comment was a fair argument from a non osu point of view. The teams around michigan arent great teams. msu did get hosed though
Va Tech by 30 - Hokies take the Hoke
Okay, maybe not, but someone who actually watches the game can tell me about it
The Sugar Bowl proves the BCS is a beauty contest scheme that does not reward the best teams. The top four teams got the best bowl games (Fiesta and BCS title game). The Rose Bowl is a god pairing between Oregon's speed and Bucky Badger's power game. After that, many teams ahead of Michigan got the shaft bowls. You don't have to be that good to get a Sugar Bowl bid anymore. You can basically be the fourth best team in the Big 10 and not play in the Big 10 title game. You can lose big to your instate rival and to a mediocre Iowa team. Just because you have the biggest stadium in college football is good enough to the Sugar Bowl suits and BCS cartel.
teams better qualified to be ranked ahead of Michigan:
LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan State, Boise St. Oregon, Southern Cal, Stanford, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, TCU. That's 14 teams.
Now consider michigans schedule: beating Western and Eastern Michigan, Notre Dame, Minnesota, San Diego State, Northwestern, Illinois, Nebraska Purdue and Ohio State.
Michigan went 2-2 on the road and lost @ Michigan State and @ Iowa.
So what part of that resume puts Michigan to the top of the heap when the BCS is determining who the at large eligible teams are? What sets them above the Houstons, Oklahomas, Va Techs, Clemsons, South Carolinas and Baylors?
What win did Michigan have that made you think they were sugar bowl worthy?
Georgia maybe, penn state no, Boise no, USC doesnt count, Penn state Lol no, stanford yes but I already stated that, KSU no, and TCU no.
Your post is full of BS. What puts them in front of huston? If you have to ask that question then wow. Also VA tech? You also have to ask that?
Your bias makes me laugh. I also do not like OSU. But at the same time I read a lot on this blog and other teams blogs(although I rarely post) b/c it gives me a different view point of reading the same thing from people who are most likely biased like I am. Although I dont think I am as biased as most fans of their teams.
I already stated why I think they should be up there, as I would give them a favorable shot to win against a majority of teams in the top 25. Except those teams I previously mentioned.
Your post tho loses all credibility with me tho when you mention with said teams.
Who did huston beat? Who did TCU? Oklahoma? Va tech beat no one. Clemson? South carolina? Baylor? Michigan has comparable or in some of those cases way better schedules then all of those teams.
ALthough Im sure your response will be something all the slap happy I hate michigan response which blinds you to the fact that they may actually be a good team.
I mean I dislike many teams and wish them to lose, but at the same time I can see that those said teams are acutally good. To state someone sucks or isnt good based on the fact I dislike their team is an immature comment, but one I expect when I read internet forums.
And also once again the only reason I say this is a good Michigan team is b/c of the relative weakness of the overall college landscape this year. Most years this would be a slightly above average team.
EDIT: also adding this in, as far as representing my team when I read comments like muck Michigan, or scUM or suckeys or other forms of some other play on words, it makes me think your still in grade school calling someone a penis head. Time to grow up a little here.
atta boy MSTEVENS24, way to reference male genetalia.
Michigan was 2 plays away from being 8-4, any given play in win vs 8-4 ND, and an overthrown pass from Miller to Posey in win vs 6-6 OSU. Couple that with your lite schedule that helps your weasels avoid playing 2 of the top 4 teams in the conference (Wisconsin and Penn State).
Michigan was average in 2011. IMO, not BCS worthy. Your Big Brothers in Lansing are far more deserving.
You are entiltled to your oppionion of course, but if you actually watched college football, you would realize that every team in america has 1-4 plays which going in any direction could make there team worse.
And also to point to the contrary, a Iowa game where we actually catch the two droped touchdown pass's wins us the game. And against MSU if we didnt throw the pick we may have won that game as well. So we were 3-4 plays away from concievally a perfect season.
Also OSU could have lost against Toledo and Wisconsion very easily, putting your team at a 4-8 record. These type of What if statements are weak arguments at best.
I mean if Michigan didnt have the call overturned which it shouldnt have and didnt drop that punt, we would have won by two touchdowns.
To state oh we just overthrew people! Is funny as Drob has been overthrowing people in almost every game this year, it happens in college football a lot. And imo its going to happen to miller a lot next year as well. Turnovers and overthrows happen, its part of the game.
Also you seem to not have understood the part of my post after the "EDIT" part.
Please read it again if you can.
ohhh. Once you learn english and learn how to type, we can gladly pick this debate up, where we will now leave it.
Ahh I see your a troll. This will be my last response to you.
And also ohhh is an incomplete sentence. You also missed a capitalization of a couple of words throughout your posts, along with many sentence fragments. I supposed your refusing to respond b/c I misspelled the word opinion. Which is pretty funny imo.
But thats ok, I realize that you have nothing in which to debate me on. You have no points to counter with and throughout our exchange you have not rebutted one point.
So Ill leave you to it then. I guess its a good cop out when you realize that you don't have anything to say back to just say you wont debate me b/c I misspelled a couple of words.
Way to represent your team.
Michigan fan spew.
Above, you admitt Georgia maybe a better team than UM, but then say Boise St. is definitely not.
you do realize that Boise St beat Georgia 35-21 in Atlanta, Georgia?
^This. Just another scUM fan talking, not to make a valid point, but to hear themselves talk.
If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target
I might point out that huston beat no one. Houston, on the other hand, went 12-1.
We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)
Just gonna point out one thing here, I stated that Michigan was better then boise, not that georgia was better then boise.
If you watched college football you would realize that makes a huge difference.
Just as Michigan beat nebraska and ND, 2 teams tha MSU lost too. Its all about match ups, I like Michigans match up against boise more then I like it against Georgia. Also start of the season<<<<end of the season.
I also said Georgia maybe, I see how this is hard for you to understand with the whole reading thing.
Actually, I think that's a valid point Mstevens.
I'm just saying, if the roles were reversed, with Michigan and MSU having the same record, Michigan beating MSU in the regular season and losing in the B1G championship game, and MSU ending up in a BCS bowl because they only have 2 losses instead of 3, Michigan fans would not agree with that.
It sounds bad even saying that someone "had to play a conference championship game". You should want to play a conference championship game. It is a great accomplishment to get to one.
If MSU were 8-4, having lost another B1G game and another OOC game, and their win over Michigan was more like an upset (like OSU over Wisconsin), then I'd be more understanding. However, MSU was the same 10-2 that Michigan was in the regular season, they had similar schedules (MSU's being tougher - they had to play Wisconsin and OSU in Columbus, and they both played Notre Dame OOC) and their victory over Michigan was certainly not a product of a fluke or luck.
I do agree though that the quality of teams in college football this year is weaker than in other years. The B1G certainly is. I'm not saying that Michigan sucks, because they don't. I'm just questioning the fairness of a team like MSU basically getting punished for losing a B1G championship game, and Michigan basically getting rewarded by not being good enough to get to the B1G championship game, when both teams went 10-2 and MSU beat Michigan. I've asked my Michigan fan friend, who says Michigan deserves to go, this question multiple times, and he has not given me an answer.
And I never stated that I disagreed with you on that point MR showtheohioshere. I do agree that MSU is a better team and more deserving then Michigan this year and should have gone ahead of Michigan in the BCS.
But thats not how the system works, and if you ask MSU fans, they would be more mad at Michigan then the BCS, which makes no sense.
Also what your saying there isn't really what this blog post is about the post was
"so the BCS determines only 12 teams better than 2011 Michigan"
"so the BCS determines that MSU is a worse team then Michigan"
I think that this year michigan does deserve to be up there based on teams that are around them. But as I stated in previous posts, MSU still beat Michigan head to head.
But just to put in a point here, Michigan beat ND and Nebraska, 2 teams that MSU lost too.
Not that I think MSU deserves a lesser bowl game as they deserve the 2nd higest BG10 game.
so MSTEVENS, you believe UM's resume should put them to the top of the rubble of teams that are averege. I don't agree. If UM hadn't been voted into the top 14, they wouldn't have been eligible for a BCS at large. After watching this years season unfold, I think many teams deserved a BCS Bowl invite over the weasels.
better then baylor, vtech, boise and KSU yeah. And I dont see how any rational fan could say that any of those teams are so much more deserving then Michigan.
I think Boise would manhandle UM. They are 2 missed FG's away from going 24-0 in the last two years which includes a win in Georgia over Georgia this year. As much as everyone doesn't want to admit it, I think they're the real deal. It will be interesting to see what happens with Moore graduating. UM allowed OSU to put up 34 points, in Michigan no less, imagine how many points RGIII would come up with.
well, considering Baylor has the 109th defense in the country and Ohio State has the 26th defense in the country and we put up 40 on Ohio, I dont think it would be that much of a problem. Not to mention that they played in the vastly overrated Big 12.
Michigan played the Bobcats and put up 40 on them? Don't see why you're bragging about that. I didn't even know Michigan played Ohio this year.
Yeah, they had some idiot QB who couldnt hit the ocean from a sinking ship with his throws, a bunch of heavily tattooed NCAA violators, and according to the stats, the 26th ranked defense in the country. and we put 40 up on them, so..... Baylor would hold michigan on D?
It might be pretty hard to hit the ocean from a sinking ship, especially if you're locked up Dicaprio style. Also wouldn't call someone who you don't personally know an idiot. You'll have to tell me what the date was of the UM-Ohio game, becuase I didn't see the Bobcats anywhere on UM's schedule.
As far as i know its Ohio State and we played them November 26th, 2011. I heard they called that school something else in Columbus but im not sure. Also A sinking boat will take on water quickly if its submerged, so eventually there would be enough water wherever he is locked up to be able to "hit it" if you want to get techinical.
Michigan fan, why come to an Ohio State websiite and throw out insults? Are you angry about someting?
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