any time, any sport:
I vote for Juan Howard or Chri$ Webber. Joakim (sp?) Noah is definite top 5
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Mike Hart.
D. Howard. Can't even write his name. One act. I was there when he did it. My eyes bleed every time they show it. I understand hart, but he never actually won, so, I find him to be just a circus side show
WB
Howard and Woodson are definitely up there. If you want to go way back, Corky Taylor and Ron Behagen deserve some hate.
Noah makes the list for me as well. Living in Chicago, I casually root for the Bulls, but can't bring myself to hope for anything but a trade for Noah.
Re: If you want to go way back, Corky Taylor and Ron Behagen deserve some hate.
Add in Dave Winfield too.
Desmond Howard and Yannick Noah are on my list.
Others:
Willis McGahee & Kellen Winslow from the Miami Hurricanes
Tshimanga "Tim" Biakabutuka and his 313 yard game
Charles Woodson and Desmond Howard reign at the top of that list. However, feel free to include all OH born athletes who choose to don that disgusting maize and blue.
If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target
Mike Hart- Football, Zack Novak- Basketball. I really was too young to understand true hatred of Woodson and Howard. I bet if "Hello Heisman" or Woodson's return happened in 2011, things would be different. Zack Novak is a no talent, worthless bum who loves nothing more than to cheap shot opponents any chance he gets.
Kellen Winslow II, I wanted Doss to split that arrogant goof's helmet open..Im going a step further and saying the worst sportscaster of all time for an OSU game is Dan Fouts.
I cant stand Denard. from his ridiculous nickname of shoelace to everytime he made the motion to keep feeding him ... i cant stand him. what a joke.
Desmond, but more than just his pose. His cocky, arrogant attitude, and utter lack for loyalty to the good guys.
Howard, Woodson, Winfield, the fraud five and Bo.
"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"
No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.
Wow, too many to pick the most despised.
J.Noah-Florida
K.Winslow jr.-Miami
Valie(sp?)- Wisconsin
M.Hart-Scum
Run_Fido's favorite word is strawman.
If Desmond Howard did the Heisman pose now, the TD wound have been called back for excessive celebration and yet it is stil being deemed an iconic moment in CFB history. I will never get that. The only thing iconic about it was the complete lack of class and sportsmanship.
MARCUS F'N RAY!
For those who have never seen this, get your hate on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxnCY0CZ1pE
"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)
Kellen Winslow, coming from a Browns fan, I despised him, more so for the things he did after OSU beat Miami for the BCS NC. His "I'm a soldier" rant, him doing the Heisman pose in 2003 season against directional Louisiana after his one and only TD catch that year, his post NFL Draft comments, his suburban Cleveland Evil Kenievel impression...yada yada.
Agree with Dan Fouts, as a commentator, for his call on the BCS NC Game, but let's not forget Dick Vitale's close circuit TV mishap in the early 1990's when he called Lawrence Funderburke a "cheap shot motherf**ker"
In the heat of the moment, I've felt hatred toward players like D. Howard, M. Ray, Webber, Noah, etc., but I never really hated them. I mean, I "hated" them for being cocky while beating Ohio State or for being a "traitor" to the state of Ohio. In other words, I hated them for doing things that I would have celebrated, or at least tolerated, had they been doing them for the good guys.
But, as others have noted on this tread, what was truly despicable and worthy of hatred is what the '72 Minnesota bballers did. I wasn't even born then and yet I've hated those Gopher players ever since I first read about the incident. Even now, I say that Corky Miller, D Winfield et al can all GFTs. Now, if they had served the prison time they deserved, they'd have been forgiven, but since they didn't, there is unpaid bill.
IMO, any other talk about "hating" Desmond Howard or any other "enemy" player is just sports trash talk.
Derrick Harvey and Jarvis Moss.
hate and despise are different words as well Fido.
Mike Hart. Followed probably by Mike Hart, then by Mike Hart. Periodically I remember that he never beat OSU and then I smile the rest of the day.
@Johnblairgobucks: Really? I had no idea they were different words.
Most commenters on here used the word "hate," which in some respects actually makes more sense. If you want to get semantical with me, the meaning of "to despise" includes a conotation of contempt, or looking down on something or someone as inferior - something that is worthless, or that is distasteful to us partly because we see it as beneath us.
Well, I hated Marcus Ray and Charles Woodson, but unfortunately they were not beneath Ohio State at that time. In fact, TTUN was getting the best of Cooper and Ohio State on an almost annual basis.
what ever fido... relax yourself. I'm just typing words, havin fun. Go Bucks!
i think ki-jana carter has to be on this list somewere,along with all those sh1tagain turds
kvn
dave winfield. there's a guy who needs a bullet in the head bad. it has nothing to with sports. it has everything to do with the fact that he is a cowardly, heinous piece of detritus who needs to be in a box. just sayin'.
hgvyt54trtfvt56
Too bad somebody didn't clock Howard from behind when he struck the pose. I sure would have. I may have dove at his planted leg.
Class of 2010.
Definitely Desmond Howard. And that Howard Trophy is classic, btw! LOL
You know, I can't really be upset by the Howard thing. There was a way to stop him from doing that afterall. I guess I don't care much for the double standard fans have about class. I've seen plenty of OSU guys mock the opposition after a TD, I wonder if that ilicits the same rage it does when the roles are reversed. More over, I am a little beyond the "Hand the ball to the ref and go on with your day" attitude. I can't really bring myself to hating Desmond Howard. Not sure why.
I'd have to say David Terrell and Anthony Thomas. Not only did I have the honor of watching them beat on my Buckeyes, I got to watch them play for my beloved Bears. Thankfully their tenures with Chicago were both short. For a while there were rumors the Bears would have picked up Drew Henson-Imagine that. Henson, Terrell, and Thomas on the same pro team....ew.
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SCRIPTOHIO mentioned "Yannick Noah" as one of the guys he hates. Man, that's some serious hatred when you're so mad at Joakim Noah that you even hate his father!
I've already reserved a spot in my hate-place for Kyle Kalis.
Real fans stay for Carmen.
Thanks RBUCK, I had never seen or heard of that incident with Gopher b-ball team. Pretty despicable!
Real fans stay for Carmen.
It might require Buckeyes of a certain age to recall Thom Darden. This (Darden's disputed interception to seal Michigan's 10-7 win in 1971) :
Led to this:
(Woody's storming the field, yelling at Jerry Markbreit, demanding a pass interference call, drawing at least one and maybe two 15-yard penalties (?) and then grabbing the down marker and javelining it onto the field.)
@M Man: how are tickets sales going for the bowl? I rwad in today's VA Pilot that the Va Tech sales are very sluggish, with a lot of folks staying home due to work/ ticket prices, and the sale process being jacked up.
"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"
No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.
Remember that well, M Man, I was on the sidelines for that game. To this day, it was the most blatant non call of interference I have ever witnessed. Darden knew he got away with one and was basically a prick about it. I have absolutely no respect for him. At the top of the list by far.
MN basketball 1972, Ted Stepian wherever he was.
I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.
I've never liked Lloyd Carr, until he had to start spelling his name with those six additional L's.
LLLLLLLLoyd Carr.
This will never get old.
NWBuckeye:
I was there, too. It was my first Michigan-OSU game, and I was on the east side of the field, behind your bench, about 50 people outside the frame of the Darden/Dick Wakefield picture.
I totally disagree with you about it being a blatant interference call. It was a very tough call, given the timing on the play and given that Darden had a right to go for the ball too and actually caught the thing. I could see it, if it had been called as pass interference (I think I might have called it that way), but it wasn't. A very close, judgment-call.
You want the worst no-call in Conference history? Compare; Eddie Brown of Michigan State later admitted to tripping Desmond Howard on a last-second game-winning conversion attempt in 1990, knocking Michigan out of the Number 1 ranking. But no call was made.
Buckeye Chief:
Michigan's ticket sales for the Sugar Bowl are brisk, by most accounts; approaching a sellout of our allotment. Virginia Tech's sales are sluggish, as noted in some press accounts of Va. Tech wanting fans to buy tickets to be donated to New Orleans charities. Nobody is very forthcoming about numbers, but I assume we'll get a very good idea eventually.
Good to hear back from you M Man. We will agree to disagree on this one. I have the benefit of having watched the game film over and over during the following week. Woody was PO'd. And, he had every right to be. But, that is what makes this game so interesting.
Good luck in the Sugar Bowl. Would be nice to see the B1G do well this year.
That game film, as you probably know, is very hard to come by, since the game was not televised (can you imagine that?), and I forget -- it is because the Conference still had a rule about how many times a team could appear on tv or something? All I remember is that the game film was very rare, and I was glad I was there. It was also one of the best games I have ever seen; absolutely monster players on both sides. Playing fierce, fundamental and mostly error-free football.
You are in a privileged position to have seen the flim that much.
Matt McGloin....Darryl Clark..Michael Robinson....Evan Royster...Paul Pozlusny...Tamba Hali....basically anyone who wears or wore that awful Blue/White combo
Well...everyone except Anthony Morelli...he will ALWAYS be 5* in my book
If Denard Robinson isn't careful with spooning all that food into his mouth, he's going to end up lookin' like Whoopi Goldberg
Gary Moeller - and shouldn't even be close...the former OSU football captain serving as the head coach for "tsun" is a lifetime deal breaker. In fact Gary is still very much a part of tsun's football family, but you NEVER see him at OSU...guess it's safe to say the "welcome mat" doesn't welcome back traitors.
M Man/ NW Buckeye,
I recently finished War As They Knew It (thanks to comments from the Three and Out review, which I'm currently reading) and of course this game was talked about. If memory serves me correctly, per the book Dorden later (years later) admitted he thought it was pass interference as well.
Also, I believe you're right about only a certain amount of games being allowed on TV in a given season.
We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)
What Darden said, was that he agreed with the observation that he made contact with Wakefield before either one of them got hands on the ball. Darden, I think, acknowledged that if that was all that he did -- hit Wakefield -- that he would have been flagged. But Darden didn't just hit Wakefield, and he didn't just get a hand on the ball. Darden caught it, and I think that the rationale for the no-call was that Darden had a right to play the ball and go for the catch, and that the contact was incidental to that. Darden made the catch.
Darden and I are, I think, in complete agreement. As I say, if the call had gone the other way, I'm not sure that Michigan fans could have complained much. But it was a very, very close call.
What I was trying to remember is how much time was left in the game, and whether Woody's historic outburst had any substantive effect on the game. It didn't. Michigan didn't score again, and in fact Michigan ran one play (QB Lary Cipa took a knee, and was hammered by Randy Gradishar) before Woody tore up the down markers.
It was just such a fantastic game, with such inspired play by two relative no-name QB's, in the face of two of the best defenses either school has ever put on the field. (Larry Cipa was QB at Michigan, Don Lamka at OSU.)
Your current reading is very high quality, and has to be very satisfying for you. War As They Knew It is a wonderful book, notwithstanding the recent malfeasances of the author; it was written by Michael Rosenberg, who turns out to be a major villain (the major villain?) in Three and Out. You'll see, when you get to the Rosenberg narrative in Three and Out.
I'm anxious to get through Three and Out, the library tells me I only have 3 days to finish it but it may be worth the fines. I'm only about 50 pages in but I knew Rosenberg has been lambasted by the UM faithful. It's a shame that tainted War As They Knew It because that really is an incredible book. It provides an amazing amount of information and background to The Ten Year War especially for those of us who weren't born yet. I believe the lousy Amazon rating is due to the author and not the quality of the book itself.
It certainly gave me more respect for both teams and Woody and Bo. It clearly shows why The Game is the greatest rivalry in sports, and why it has continued to be so for decades.
Moments like the '71 game only add to the allure. Neither side will ever agree and the story of Woody tearing up those sideline markers will live forever even though almost no one, except the people in the stands that day, has ever actually seen it happen.
We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...
(Also, I'm not a dude)
LENDALE WHITE!
I'll say it: Urban Meyer.
Woodson, Howard, and Hart as players
Bo as old time coach
That Whiner from Wisconsin (as I like to call him) as current coach.
Geez...Charles Woodsen and Desmond Howard. Both Ohioans both Heisman winners for UM. Add in the great Heisman Pose we endure each year in highlights (which today is a taunting Flag).
mark fucking may. that guy, despite posing minimal threat during his actual playing career, this guy haunts us from the (unfortunately metaphorical) grave
I think I hated Harts comments the most, but, he couldnt win. Mark May makes me want to throw up every time I hear him talk. I wish Woodson and Howard woulda played for the good guys. Jalen Rose still holds alot of hate toward OSU. I dont think Ive ever been so pissed as I was when Denard was "getting fed" though
mark may wins douchebag of the year... again
* Mike Hart just because of his level of classlessness but he went 0-4 against us so he got what his works deserved
* Les Miles -- just the absolute definition of a douchebag -- right there with Bret Bielema
@ SIR RICKITHDA3RD
Agree on the "eating" thing they were doing. That absolutely should've been a taunting flag. They threw flags on us in 2010 for showing the "Block O" with our gloves, but the Michigan players didn't get anything in the 2011 game. Although I'm really not that surprised. Given how they didn't throw a flag against Michigan until the 4th quarter despite multiple obvious holding penalties, and neutral zone infractions, Bill Lemonnier set the tone early and often for how the officiating would go in that game.
Truth-Denard's Captain Kronic cereal eating made me want to punch my TV. I had to choke myself into showing restraint.
I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.
I agree. I hope Simon and company remember that November 24. I hope Denard is eating a lot of turf that day.
Mike Hart and J. Noah I hate harts mouth and wanna punch noah with that damn ugly hair
12-OH
Mike Hart, Teblow, Barkley (as a freshman), Mark Sanchez, Maualuga. Too many to count.
Land-Grant Holyland
Jim Harbaugh. That sonofabitch's guarantee.
All TTUN players.
It's good to be home.
Mike and mike...no not greeny and golic. Hart and shaw. Hart is obvious. And michael shaw for his one act of supreme douchiness. His tough guy shoulder check of garrett schwartz coming up the tunnel a couple years back. I mean seriously, if I remember correct schwartz wasn't even dressed for the game. I do know he had headphones on and was paying no attention to him. Granted, both mikes proceeded to take a good kicking from our boys for the entirety of their careers up north. But seriously that one act by shaw puts him on my hate list for sure.
Woodson, Howard as in Desmond. The 90s were rough. Fouts made me throw up in my mouth a little. Noah for the hair.
Corky Taylor, Ron Behagen and Bill Musselman
This one took a while - but this was far worse than anything/one from ttun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxnCY0CZ1pE
^^^Winner.
"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)
Jim Harbaugh.
The Denard thing still eats at me, no pun intended. I wonder how he is going to feel when Simon and Co. actually eat him on the field. Probably "Mildly uncomfortable".
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Bo, Fat Bitch (Hoke), Mike Hart, early Lloyd Carr, Basically Anything and everything having to deal with that shithole up North. The whole town could be ablaize, but if I had to piss on that shithole to put the fire out, I'd piss right beside it.
^ Charming...Somebody needs to sit the next couple of plays out
"Love my State, hate the football"
Idk if this needs to be said, but AA is actually a lovely college town
^Agreed, I Love Ann Arbor. I have family in Plymouth, so I definitely have visited there quite often and it is quite the nice college town.
I live 10 minutes from Ann Arbor and work there. It is a good city but I definitely prefer Columbus as far as things to do. Columbus has more of a "real city" feel to me- also much better food.
I have family in Plymouth as well William- its a nice small town
"Love my State, hate the football"
Bill Musclehead.I will never forgive,I will never forget. GO BUCKS!
I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.
Dave Winfield, Jim Harbaugh, Desmond, Charles Woodson, Ron Dayne.
Logan Tuley-Tillman is making a good start to wind up on my list.
http://www.freep.com/usatoday/article/702610?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Cfe...
"Paralyze resistance with persistence." -Woody Hayes
The player from Clemson who pissed off Woody.
Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.
Nothing pissed me off more than Chris Leak acting like he had talent
Maybe it's a generational thing, but I'm amazed that anyone other than Desmond Howard got votes in this thread.
Edit to add: I just thought of someone else I despised, probably irrationally: Steve Alford. I'm sure he was a nice guy, but to me he always symbolized the era when Big Ten refs essentially danced at the ends of puppet strings held by Bob Knight.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
^^^
I had almost forgotten that smug look
Um give a look into Steve Alford's run at Iowa and his reaction to the whole Pierre Pierce thing and try to get the words "Probably a nice guy" out of your mouth after you say "Steve Alford Was"
That guy is the slime that grows on slime. I wish him a lifetime of rolled ankles and bad sun burn.
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