PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
Another one bites the dust in the Factory of Sadness that is Cleveland Sports. Been hearing Chris Jent's name come up a lot. NO CHRIS NO!
Unfortunately this was bound to happen. I'm no NBA fan, but I do at least follow what goes on, particularly with the Cavs. He was thrown into an unwinnable situation once LeBron left. He's basically had 2 years to rebuild the team after his trainwreck of a first season (which cannot be blamed on him) and that clearly isn't enough time. They aren't far off, but they still need some solid contributors to get them to the next level. In this day and age of "we must win now", he wasn't going to succeed with what he was given.
Honestly, how well were they expecting him to do? He came with nothing and left with some, but a very young some
Yeah, I think he did the best he could with what he had. I hate this thinking of "if you don't get me to the playoffs within 3 years, then you're out!" It doesn't allow any time to get things going in the direction that you actually want them to.
Nothing could be expected of him. LeBron (and Danny Ferry) left the team in shambles to the point that they should honestly move the team. I just don't ever see them being good. I have always loved the Cavs, but I figure if they cease to exist I can finally stop caring.
We talkin' bout practice?! Not the game I love...the game I die for. Practice?!
No talk about moving any of my teams please. ANY. that actually just pissed me off.
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AScott deserved the axe. The team made minimal progress and totally quit at the end.of.the yr.
His teams play 0 defense and this team has enough young talent to be much beyter than they were. No one was as king him to make the playoffs this quick as some comments say but we do need to see progress from the team which failed to occur. He totally failed to.keep.this team engages.the last quarter of the yr.and it cost him.his job deservedly so. Here's to ben mclemore or otto porter in the draft and maybe a big man middle.of the 1st since we got lakers pick since they made playoffs last.night
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Scott's a good coach, but he lost the team. They totally quit on him at the end. Played no D. Gave little effort. It wasn't so much how many games they lost, but how they lost them. I don't think management had great expectations in terms of wins and losses, given the injuries and the team's youth, but the regression toward the end of the year was embarrassing.
Yeah that's been his MO, to lose the team after a couple of seasons. Can't afford to waste another season if they want to resign Irving; he'll leave to go somewhere he can win. Might anyway, but they have a better chance of keeping him if they are on the path towards getting to the playoffs.
Yes, Scott didn't have a ton to work with. But he got exactly nothing more out of the team than the sum of their crappy parts. A better coach could have done better. Not a ton better, but better.
I totally agree with you and Odee.
I like Byron Scott. A part of me feels bad for the guy cause I doubt few if any coaches could've come to Cleveland and done much better with the teams he's had to work with. I'm not gonna use youth and injuries as an excuse for the poor play, but they were a factor. Truth is, he most certainly lost his team as this season unraveled.
With their crappy record (3rd worst in the league), the Cavs will have a lottery pick and they also have the 17th pick, which would be cool if I thought there were difference makers in this draft. I am just no that impressed with the talent available in this draft.
The Cavs aren't looking for an elite #1 option. What they're focusing on is a 3 that can play defense and take a good shot selection. Otto Porter, Jr. fits that description perfectly and I do not see the Cavs not picking him or trading up to draft him.
As far as 5 goes, I wouldn't be too uncomfortable with Andy V (he can't possibly sit for most of 2013-14, right?), but most people want another injury prone player in Nerlens Noel, who I think at this point has a ceiling higher than Zeller, but right now is not as good as him. I personally would love to sign Greg "LeBron's dad" Oden to fill the void because when healthy, he's one of the best centers in the NBA.
Between the situation he came into, and bad luck with injuries, Scott was doomed.
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The guy brought no inspiration to a young team in need of guidance. Yeah, he was dealt a bad hand, and hit a few worse patches along the way with injuries, but there are other things you need to see as a front office exec, and they weren't seeing them from Scott. Also, if you do some reading about the situation, there are plenty of sources close to the team with intel about how he had lost control of his players.
Let's face it, the Cavs purposely tanked for the first two season to get players like Irving, Thompson and Waiters. This was Scott's year for the team to show improvement and they were looking good until Andy went down and Kyrie started missing time. They showed some improvedment after the trade with the Grizzlies, but they just could not sustain anything. Honestly with Irving, Thompson, Waiters, Zeller, and two first round picks in each of the next couple of drafts, the Cavs are in an excellent position to build a legitimate contender (event without LeBron). They should not have a problem finding a guy who wants to coach this team
The always-well sourced internets are buzzing about Mike Brown. If I cared about the Cavs, I'd probably go hang myself.
Although, if he got hired, it would probably put to rest those awful rumors about the Akron Douchebag coming back to town.
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dude never preached defense, he couldn't figure out when to call a timeout to stop another team's runs, he lost the team at the end of the season.....good riddance bra
Supposedly the cavaliers have reached out to Phil Jackson again to gauge his interest
If that's true that's the biggest waste of a phone call in the history of sports. Jackson isn't coaching anyone not ready to win big. The Cavs are a mess - almost as sad as the Browns.
What do you Cavs fans think about Mike Brown being hired? Personally, I think if he can hire a solid offensive minded assistant coach, then this is a great move. Improving our defense is what we needed to do, and Mike Brown will do that.
Furthermore, I still believe that in the NBA if you have the talent on your team, you will win games. Talent is a lot more important than who's coaching your team.
Byron Scott did take THE NETS to 2 Finals right? I think he was put in an unwinnable situation.
All week long, Meyer preached to his team that he wouldn't pity Buffalo (4--8 in 2012). "I didn't schedule this game," he insisted. "I'm not going to feel bad for them."
Those were also the years that the EC was extremely mehish. If it weren't for the 2006-07 season, you could argue that the East was at its weakest during those Nets runs.
Agreed and I actually forgot about that, but imho they had a shot at beating San Antonio.
Mike Brown is a lame excuse for a coach. I'm sorry but I could've coached those Cavs' teams to 60+ wins a season with LeBron on my team, and by coach I mean sit on the bench and pound brews, because that's essentially what Mike Brown did during his first tenure as coach of the Cavs. Firing Scott to only hire Brown was moronic, and on so many levels at that.
LOL. One player isn't going to win you 60+ games. The Heat this year got to 66 wins and LeBron is surrounded by 2 hall of famers and a perennial allstar AND the only reason they got to that many wins was by going on an ungodly winning streak to close out the season (something like 38-3 in the last 41 games).
Look at the Cavs rosters during some of those years, now tell me that coaching didn't have something to do with it. They averaged 100ish points a game, LeBron only averaged something like 31. Also, because of Brown the Cavs defense went from the worst in the league to a top 5 defense every year under his tenure. And it's not like that team was filled with good defenders either.
LeBron is absolutely the reason why the Cavs ever reached 60 wins. If Mike Brown is such an excellent coach, why was he fired by the Lakers after one season?
The same Lakers that thought Mike D'Antoni was a better fit than Phil "Count my rings" Jackson? Is that really your argument? If so, boooo!
William has a point to an extent. The issue is that this Lakers team, sans a few changes, is not that far from the team that won a championship in 2010 - at least the main pieces are still around. Mike Brown found a way to drag that team down and was canned after essentially 1+ season. His offensive knowledge is horrendous and without LeBron, he has shown that he can't get much done. Even with LeBron, his offensive game plan was built around letting LeBron dribbling at the top of the key while 4 other players stood around until LeBron did something. He won't be able to do that now so unless he can hire an offensive genius and let him call the plays, this team is not going to get any better. I think his hiring is horrendous and the very little interest that I had remaining in the Cavs/NBA is pretty much out the window now.
Everyone talks bad about offense under Brown, but offense was ran by an assistant, both in LA and Cleveland. Jent ran all offensive huddles when drawing up plays and the like.
In Mike Brown's first season he had no training camp due to the lock out. Yet they still managed to get the 3rd Seed out West. His 2nd season....that's right, he didn't have one. I didn't like Mike Brown as the Lakers head coach, but his firing was unfair.
Because LA is LA. They were 41-27 last season under brown without Bynum and other injuries. Fired this season after 5 games Of banged up Nash, Kobe, gasol, howard, and artest. Tell me how good the Lakers improved under dantonio, they looked horrendous majority of the season. Takes more than 5 games to mesh as a basketball team.
Coaching had nothing to do with it. Those Cavs teams won 60 games because of LeBron. Without him those teams are 35 win teams at the absolute ceiling. Familiar with WAR stats in baseball?
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I'm actually surprised at the lack of interest in the Cleveland job. With all that young talent, I feel like the Cavs are definitely on the way up, especially considering all the draft picks piled up over the next 2-3 years
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Because they still sucked this year, probably.
With a young team, coaching is everything. No offense to Scott but he wasn't a great fit
Actually for a young team, I'd argue that Byron Scott is/was a better fit by miles in comparison to Mike "Hey LeBron, what should we do?" Brown.
I'm by no means saying Brown was a good hire, I actually really hate that the Cavs did hire him. Just confuses me, like is he really the best we could get with all this young talent?
Oh not at all. I would've taken an assistant coach like Mark Price in a heartbeat over Mike Brown. I mean good Lord, how the Hell do the Cavs expect to keep Kyrie Irving when they hire this moron back?
In a perfect world Izzo would have taken the job. But this isn't a perfect world.
I got a good chuckle when I saw that we are re-hiring Mike Brown. At least we'll get to see him spit in a cup like he does habitually for a few more seasons!
Mike Brown??? Because he couldn't win a title with LeBron, Kobe, Howard, Pau, etc. but he'll get it done with Kyrie and Dion Waiters. <<face palm>>
Why are you mentioning Howard? He was a coach for 5 games with Howard. Apparently you win titles in November. :/
I wonder if Ben Howland was interested.
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