Just a quick blurb about this so-called Napoleon Complex UC has towards Ohio State. That's not exactly right. On the college football landscape, I would say that UC fans really do know who's boss, but it's just really fun for them to talk trash as of late. They hit the jackpot on a few coaching hires, and that really did elevate their football program. I know this was annoying, but I think Buckeye fans let them have their fun in the sun for the most part (at least I did). We're playing gridiron ball in a couple of seasons, and I have a feeling it will be more of the same (although, I do think they have a point when it comes to Ohio State reneiging on making the 100 mile trek down I-71 to play it in UC's backyard). I think we do need to sack up and play games down there. If Oklahoma can do it, so can we.
Basketball is a different story. UC does have the edge in win % and national championships, both of which came over Ohio State. They had a premier national program in the 1990's, despite Huggins's propensity to straight gag it in March. There is a lot of cross-over when it comes to fanbases moving to each others' cities (myself included). So, when it comes to basketball, I never got a sense of it being a "little brother" mentality. I think they tend to feel that Ohio State fans look at them that way, though. And since Ohio State seems to shun scheduling that game (at least, as it appears from UC's perspective), there's no way to prove it where it counts...having to point to a 50-year old result as the basis of superiority. To OSU's credit, though, UC is horrible at scheduling big non-conference games in basketball. Why? I don't know. You'd think they'd be able to do better.
So, what do you think? What are your experiences dealing with UC/Ohio State fans about this? I know my dad acts insufferably when he goes up to Columbus...wears UC apparell the whole time, and talks trash when he's given an opportunity. I tell him he's playing with fire. But trash talk is fun.
Would you want to have, maybe, an every-other-year basketball game against each other? Something has to change - it's the 21st Century. We can't just ignore each other any longer.
After seeing a girl taking her morning power walk around my apartment complex in work out clothes and high heels, im not sure what to think anymore. (i actually just wanted everyone to get that mental picture for a moment)
I live in Cincy, many people i work with either went to Ohio or Cincy...I'm the only Buckeye alum here, which is weird, but anyway...they are obviously excited for the matchup, and im not getting mad listening to them talk about it.
I wouldnt mind seeing Cincy every year in basketball, and same goes for Xavier..year in and year out both are solid teams, which wouldnt hurt the buckeyes schedule one bit.
I was born in Cincinnati, Ohio. This is a tuff one.
Bru
All of my dad's friends talk insane amounts of trash to me as a Buckeye. But I've gotten trash-talked for being a Buckeye in virtually every city I've been. Heck, an Auburn fan started sh*t with me at the Indy 500, and this was just after they had dropped one to USF at home. So, it's expected because everyone hates us.
Love the Bearcats having followed them my whole life, but I really just want to see a good game between two hungry teams, and I hope the fans in the stands treat each other with respect. Well, maybe a little friendly ribbing wouldn't kill anyone.
Well as I said, to me it does seem to be the Napolean complex, because it is always the little guy UC talking smack about the big guy OSU. And since UC has not been to a NC in BB for god knows how long I really don't see them claiiming BB either. I really don't understand why many who have lived in Ohio all their lives hate OSU. I don't hate Toledo, or Ohio, or Bowling Green and actually root for them as long as they are not playing OSU. Seems to me UC fans have an envy problem.
Kevin
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I totally understand how you can have people from Ohio hate Ohio State. They get all the coverage, and the fans are everywhere who claim they're the top dog at everything. It's sort of the same reason everyone hates the SEC right now. And you'll have contrarians no matter what. I have a cousin who used to be an Ohio State fan, but abandoned them after Cooper blew it in 1998 against MSU - it sent him over the edge. It's just an example, but it's true.
With Cincinnati having its own sports programs that truly are competitive on the national scene, you can't fault them for being fans of that. If Cleveland State was a national power in basketball going back 50-60 years, they'd be the same way.
I think the BigEast is a better conference. I feel like I win either way but i will be pulling for the bearcats. I know the coach personally and he has worked extremly hard to rebuild a program where they essentially lost 3 recruiting classes to the Huggins mess. I think OSU will win but if they do not bring their A game UC will drive them nuts. If you wathced the game last nught you saw how every Big East game is played. There are no blow outs a la Purdue recently. UC is mentally tought and will not pack it in.. I am torn but I say UC 67 OSU 65..
Did you mean Napoleon Complex.
Taquitos.
Is that a question, Denny? If so, what?!
3technique: keep us posted on how your Bearcats are doing when football season rolls around. Always good to hear perspectives from other fan bases.
First comment on here and though no better place than this post...
I grew up in Cincy but graduated from OSU. Nothing makes me more mad than UC fans. Ever since UC won last night, i have recieved so many texts and seen so many aweful facebook posts you would think this is as big as Mich/OSU game. My take is this game is so much bigger for UC because they have everything to prove, always being in OSU's shadow. That scares me, because you know they are going to come out looking to prove to everyone they are the best team in the state. As a kid, i loved UC, mainly becuase of this guy and this play http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY3TV3vgs7k but ever since going to OSU my respect for uc has gone down tremendously. I honestly hope we win by 30 so nobody can say anything for the next 5 years, but I think a 5-8pt victory for OSU is more reasonable. UC comes out fired up in first half but Deshaun and Willy B take over in the 2nd half
I am a HUGE buckeyes football fan. I almost never even watch UC football. I have been watching OSU since Spielman in the 80s. I love this site for the recruiting info.. I really do tihnk OSU will win. They just have more future NBA players. I also think gates will play well and I have always wanted to see how he would matchup with Sullinger. I think OSU will have to guard him with someone else to avoid foul trouble..
We did play down there in '02.
I could give a damn about UC. I'd rather do an annual rivalry matchup with Kentucky.
Class of 2010.
I say a home and home in basketball is fine. I don't think an OSU/UC football game at Nippert would be feasible. It would be a logical nightmare. OSU fan basically fill IU's stadium when they play there. Oklahoma worked because there isnt many OU fans in Ohio. Paul Brown is the only real option. I would also like to see more Ohio teams play each other. Might as well keep the money instate.
As for the little man complex, my friends who are UC fans suffer from this badly. I just hope OSU wins so I don't have to hear it from them.
go bucks
I've always been a huge Buckeye fan since age of 4(im 28 now). I've always also had a soft spot for the Bearcats since the 1990s. Wanted them to do well in every game except against tOSU. That pretty much changed after they beat FSU. Their bitter QB, and idiot fans that act as if they aren't apart of Ohio pretty much stopped that.
I honestly wish Ohio State would schedule them every year in CFB and CBB so they could beat the tar out of them and shut their mouths.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
The 02 game was in Indy at theWooden Classic. The UC AD hated the President of UC because of Huggins firing. He made the game knowing UC was depleted.
I say play a pre league tournament every year with 8-12 Ohio teams. Money maker and less cupcakes. let the best team win.
I also see more talent on OSU, but UC is the better team especially on defense.
This should be great.
Bru
It was a question, Bucksfan.
Taquitos.
I think there is a complex. Just take a look at the athletic and academic facilities. The Cin baskeball arena is nice, but the rest of their facilities are laughable. OSU is the #2 athletic department in the entire country. OSU is one of the things that made the wildly successful BTN possible. Money flows everywhere at OSU. There's nothing that Cin is the centerpiece of. As pointed out on this site yesterday, OSU has the largest fan base in the entire country. Cin was once a dominant basketball program, but now struggles for relevance in the overstocked Big East since they joined in 05. Big East football is obscenely laughable and getting worse. Cin also gets slighted when it's mentioned constantly that Ohio is the only college football hotbed that only has one dominant in-state program. Cinci just gets grouped into the blob that is the other 7 faceless Division 1 programs in OH despite their recent BCS bowl trips. Even the OSU endowment is double the size. Even during OSU's worst season in 20yrs, Cin can't build any sort of momentum to relevance, like Dantonio did at MSU during Michigan's low period, because OSU came swooping in with Urban Meyer. Hell look at Urban himself. Cin was his alma mater, yet never one time was it ever considered his dream job. Instead it's a place where good coaches go to find better, higher paying jobs elsewhere. Cin has a Nalpoleon complex, no doubt about it.
And I totally agree with Matta's stance on playing bigger national teams rather than Cin or Xavier. It helps us land the national talent we've been pulling in. I don't want to land the best kid in Cin unless he also happens to be one of the best kids in the country.
Statutoryglory, everything you said is fairly true, except for this notion that Cincinnati basketball is not a nationally competitive program. THAT attitude is reason #1 why Bearcat fans have a problem with Ohio State fans, particularly because it's stat-less at this point, and because the attitude is also why OSU won't schedule them. Writing it off as "it doesn't help us recruit nationally" is bogus, and you know it. Ohio State has played virtually every other Ohio program on a semi-regular basis for years, in games that no one with a national interest in college basketball would ever watch. Games against Miami, Dayton, etc, get you more national attention than Xavier or UC, are you kidding me?!
An Ohio State-UC matchup every year or every other year would be a can't-miss national broadcast.
Football, like I said, is not even a debate. UC fans know who's boss in Ohio with that, and there's not a realistic desire to catch up. That's not why UC has a problem with Ohio State.
Gotta agree with Bucks fan. Cincy has more national titles and a better all time winning percentage.
Or, if you prefer more modern let's go with the last 20 or so years (from 1990 on). Cincy has been in the tournie 16 times, OSU only 13. Both have three Elite Eight appearances. Cincy went to the final four once, OSU twice.
One is from the Big Ten, an established renowned basketball conference. The other is from the Big East, an established renowned basketball conference.
It's laughable to suggest the OSU basketball program is on a whole different level than Cincy. It isn't. They're basically equal.
In football, it is clearly no contest.
I've been an OSU football fan my whole life and a Cincy bball fan (grew up in Cincy and family lives mostly (now all) in Columbus). I don't get the whole "Napoleon complex" thing OSU fans think Cincy has. To have a Napoleonic complex you have to be short. Cincy is the same height as OSU in basketball.
Cin would be if they didn't enter the Big East. The problem there is you get lost in a mash of teams and it's hard to be a top 5 team if you have a conference record close to 500. They stay out of the big east they can have low loss seasons. And it would just be a can't miss broadcast in Ohio. I lived in California for 5 years and most of the people I talked to never realized Cin even had a major college. They all knew Ohio State. The Ohio games they schedule now are blowout home wins. OSU doesnt go to Wright State and play a road game. There's nothing in it for Ohio State to play Cincinnati on a regular basis. Unless we want to see player and fan fights that is. The Tony Parkers of the world don't care about Ohio State playing Cin regularly. They care how the Buckeyes did against Duke, and Florida and Kentucky, etc. The Jordan Siberts or Jim O'Brien recruits might care, but we are going after elite guys now.
Stat- that's on the west coast. I live in DC and I can tell you here at least, and probably all up and down the east coast (Big East country) Cincy basketball is well known.
It all depends on your region. Anywhere that doesn't directly see OSU or Cincy play on a daily basis will know OSU more, but because of OSU's football program and its success, not because OSU's basketball has accomplished more than Cincy or is even better known on its own merits. Basically OSU basketball lives on the back of OSU football outside of Big Ten country and surrounding states.
Cincy basketball is well known up and down the Mississippi (former Conf USA/Great Midwest area) and the east coast (Big East country).
Yes Californians are idiots. But an All Ohio matchup is a national snoozer much like a Reds Tribe World Series would be. Duke OSU, Florida OSU, UNC OSU is primetime game of the month type stuff. When was Cin last Final Four? 92? Happy 20th anniversary of your last meaningful season. Some bad breaks in there but it is what it is. Have they ever won the Big East Basketball title? How many Big Ten Titles has Matta won? How many top 5 picks has Matta sent to the NBA? Cin has Kenyon Martin 12 years ago. When's the last time Cin had a top 5 recruiting class? I'm pretty sure it was 99/00 but the Rivals links don't go back that far. Then we can both go back to the 60s and argue titles and Havliceks and Oscars and stuff that's irrelevant to today's landscape. OSU is the much better program right now. It's flush with cash, hot on the recruitng trail, and if OSU wants a kid in Ohio they're not going to go with another Ohio school. And I 1000% guarantee if Cronin ever puts together a run and hits the final four again or wins a title he is gone faster than they can cut down the nets to a place that is a destination job and will pay him like it. Matta is going nowhere. His success and the BTN dollars turned OSU into a destination job.
I say play a home and home series with them yearly. Even years in Cbus and odd in Cincy. Make this BB only. It would help with recruiting both basketball and football in the Queen City. Cincy feels like it is not a part of Ohio, but wants to distance themselves from KY as well. I grew up in cincy and that was always the perception I had. Cincy news never covered Ohio State. I heard more about UK and Louisville than OSU. I stated in yesterdays Skully that my Mom sees this game as a WE(Cincy) against You(Me/OSU). I'm sure my sister and the rest of the city sees it that way as well. I need this victory in a bad way.
I was born and raised on Cincinnati's West Side. I attended one of the all-male Catholic high schools. I spent 4 1/2 years in Columbus while at tOSU, and now I live in Downtown Cincinnati. I'm about as Cincinnati as you can get.
That being said.... Yes, Cincinnati has a terrible Napoleon Complex, but it's not just University of Cincinnati fans, it's pretty much the entire city. You'll get that in any city where high school teams receive more press than the local NCAA FBS team.
It's more representative of the city's mindset. This is a conservative, risk-averse city. Our population does not branch out. We're born here, we die here. Few even go away for school. We celebrate mediocrity because it makes us feel comfortable with ourselves, and we subsequently demonize success.
This is Cincinnati. It has a terrible Napoleon Complex, and it's one of the things that has held the city back from the recent wave of urban revitalization that's occuring in Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Louisville, and Columbus, but not in Cincinnati. The people here are so risk-averse that they would rather tear down the successful than strive to be like them at the risk that they might fail.
Very well put Humble Buckeye.
Humble, I come from a similar background as you, and I just don't see it nearly as negatively. Yeah, the city is fairly conservative and risk-averse, and that does stand in the way of a lot of good urban development, but I don't see how that feeds into a Napolean Complex in any way. The city's inhabitants are generally very proud of its heritage, culture and traditions. It may come off as a Napolean Complex to the rest of Ohio because they simply don't take pride in the same stuff, and they unfairly look down upon it because it's different. It goes both ways. "Cleveland sucks because it doesn't have Skyline or goetta" for example. Or on the flipside, "Skyline sucks, and Cincinnati sucks for liking that cr*p!"
Anyway, I see the mentality as just regional pride. Sometimes rivalry is bred out of someone else getting all the attention just because they're rich. But Michigan fans could claim that's why OSU started hating them.
Anyway, good stuff. It's a good sign to have passionate people like you living downtown. That should help matters, I would think. Go Reds.
Thanks for the hat-tip Bucksfan. Don't get me wrong, I love Cincinnati with all my heart. I experienced the risk-averse nature of this city first hand last year when I was seeking financing for a venture I started. No one in this city would give me a dime. Six months later, a Wharton grad started a venture very similar to mine despite his enterprise not being as developed far along as mine was. The difference was, he hit up angel investors in the New York area. I was appealing to investors in Cincy, and I was shot down repeatedly.
That being said, I do think things are changing for the better. I've been trying to convince my friends to leave their West Side nests or their Hyde Park Apartments and move downtown, because it's a lot more fun, and things have really cleaned up, but they're still not sold. Regardless, the University of Cincinnati is key to making Cincinnati a "destination" city. The better they get academically - and they've certainly raised their profile over the last 7 or so years - the more young minds are going to gravitate towards this city from other areas of the country and perhaps change the culture here. Ohio State has had a similar effect on Columbus.
A Napoleon complex is understandable. Heck, Napoleon was a genius military strategist and a pretty tough little bastard. No shame in having a complex named after that dude.
The complex that bothers me is the "I'm really torn over who to root for in this game because I grew up in Cincy, but I'm a HUGE Buckeye football fan" complex.
Look, I'd never suggest a purge of bandwagon fans, casual fans, or even two-timing fans - they buy jerseys, tickets, Big Ten Network packages, etc., which in turn means more money flowing to my alma mater. The more the merrier. But please don't expect me to consider you part of the inner-circle, thank you.
Agree Fido.... I don't care if I grew up in Cincy and have a lot of family and friends who went to UC, I will always cheer for OSU over Cincy. It disgusted me that my brother cheered AGAINST Miami-OH (his alma mater) when they played UK in football and basketball just because he lives in Lexington and married into a big time UK family (big donors, season tickets and all). You should never turn your back on your alma mater. Plus - as I have stated many times on here - despite my affinity for my hometown and its sports programs, Cincinnati fans (especially Bengals and Bearcat fans) are really obnoxious.
Go Bucks. Beat Cincy. And beat them bad so all my friends will shut up.
Gee, Fido, I didn't know you were in charge of Buckeye inner-circle membership. That must make you some sort of demigod around here. Wait, let me first bask in your greatness, oh exalted one, and bow before thee, whose sh*t comes out more scarlet and gray than my own.
Bucksfan: you're borderline illiterate. Here's what I wrote:
Me having an opinion concerning what qualities I would consider as qualifying or disqualifying something =/= me saying that I have control over everyone else's opinions concerning such questions.
Dictionary definitions:
I think I got you just fine.
I am well-aware of what you're trying to say (even if you're not), and it's arrogant, haughty, and frankly rude to suggest that 1) there is an inner-circle of Ohio State fandom, 2) you're in it, 3) you consider its membership. You're more the jester of the court, maybe?
But, at the end of the day, I'm relieved that you're able to consider qualities as qualifying or disqualifying something, whatever that jobbledy-goo is supposed to mean. Not so sure defining a pronoun is really going to help you or me understand it, though. Must make your mother very proud.
Bucksfan: first, my comment about what I find worse than a possible Napoleon complex was meant to be humorous (albeit biting humor), as well as my follow up comment to you, but - you are right about one thing (finally!) - it was above your head.
Yep, you have me pegged. I literally believe that there is an inner-circle of Buckeyes fans, which guards its sanctity via secret code words and by only allowing members who can pass its demanding and arcane rites of initiation.
Btw, I do consider you the worst commenter on 11W, but that does not mean that I have any authority over how others feel about you. Come to think of it, you are the lord and master of the inner-circle of worst 11W commenters, which consists mainly of you.
From now on, I'll ignore your worthless comments, good riddance.
All this talk of an Inner Circle has me thinking.
William,
I prefer this inner circle... Fido and myself are members.
UC can suck it. I was raised to hate UC because my pop was a huge Buckeye hoops fan back in the early 60's. That said, I was able to generate my own personal hate when Cronin and Deonta Vaughan acted like total bitches when Oden/Conley destroyed them in the Wooden Classic back in 2006.
Vaughn, who stunk it up, cited the unfamiliar rims and the ball as the reasons for UC's poor play, giving Oden and company no credit.
Cronin was just as bad talking about how the team spent all their energy in the Crosstown Shootout that same week.
We had those bitches down 42-14 at HALFTIME and they gave us no love.
Screw UC. I can't wait to wax them on Thursday.
That is all.
Chris FTW!
William and TheHumbleBuckeye: posting funny links like that is the best way to get pompous jerks like me to stop being so haughty.
Chris: I want to just throw caution to the wind like you and start talking vicious smack to the proud and closeted Bearcat fans, but the last two Sweet 16 exits have made me more gutless than usual. I'll live vicariously through your smack until or unless the Buckeyes are rolling the 2H this Thursday. As soon as the game is over, though, I have a no rubbing-it-in policy. In other words, my "open smack" window lasts as about as long as Buford hot-shooting streak.
Fido, can I use that inner-circle term? Out here in sunny Southern California you have to develop a keen eye for the fake and real Buckeye fans. Trust me when I say there are quite a few fake ones whom where the garments with no love for it, despite what you would think. Anyways, whenever I point out a "fake Buckeye" to my friends, it sounds too Pryor-esque. I think if I said "He/she is not in the inner-circle" it would sound tons more bad ass and make me feel more important.
P.S. I'm aware that in actuality there is no tangible inner-circle that you "consider" members for, but for fun's sake.
October 20th: National Kenneth Guiton Day
Definitely not here to impress you, Fido, but thanks for offering your low opinion of me anyway.
Just thought this game provided an opportunity to open a forum where we can all share our experiences with this rivalry in a somewhat civil manner, and some of you instead chose to be straight up nasty. What has always been funny to me was when a bully talks a lot of sh*t, but can't take it when it's dished back, he always claims "Oh, I was just being funny, ha ha, you're an idiot for not getting it, so G.F.Y." Up yours.
There are a LOT of current, former, and future Ohio State students who root for Bearcat basketball, whether any of you like it or not. I would go to BW3's with buddies AT OHIO STATE to cheer on the Bearcats. And if it was the Crosstown Shootout, we'd see a bunch of Xavier fans, too, who were obviously our age. Just because a foreign-born student from Brazil gets a scholarship from the U.S. Government to attend a UNIVERS-ity doesn't mean they wouldn't root like hell for their home country if the two countries took the field in the World Cup. Ohio State attracts people from all over the state and all over the country for a VARIETY of reasons, probably the least of which is sports. If you would rather it ONLY be people who think like you, or talk like you, or eat the same food you eat, fine. You didn't have to be a jerk about it.
Danny Fortson, Bobby Brannon, Damon Flint, Melvin Levitt, Steve Logan, Ruben Patterson, KENYON MARTIN... loved all those guys dearly growing up. Coach Huggins absolutely brought a lot of joy to Cincinnati, but it was never the same after he was run out of town. Even if it was done for legit reasons (fell asleep at a traffic light less than a mile from my house), the school and Nancy Zimpher, especially, handled it VERY POORLY. Like someone mentioned above, the school lost about 3 recruiting classes and damn good coach in Adam Kennedy... and UC basketball went through some tough times. But now it looks as though the program is back and I for one and happy for them. While my allegiences lie with Ohio State first and foremost, it's nice to see my family back home excited again for the Bearcats. After all, I remember how much fun it was watching the games with them growing up.
Born and raised in Cincinnati. OSU grad, moved back to Cincinnati after graduation. Dad, two brothers, several uncles went to UC. Another brother, several other uncles, cousins went to OSU. Mom went to Miami University (she hasn't a chance...but that's another story) Ohio State will always be my number 1 school and team. Bearcats FB and BB are easily my number 2. I firmly believe that there should be a UC/OSU game every year in both FB and BB. Play the Cincy version in Paul Browm Stadium, BB in the respective team's home court. Over the last 10 years or so FB has been scheduling in-state games - can you honestly say that OSU-Youngstown or OSU-Bowling Green is a more compelling match up? OSU fans complain that Cincinnati is not a true Ohio city because they aren't OSU fans. Create a annual match up - bring more OSU interest into the city (Cincinnati dwelling OSU fans can agree, coverage of anything OSU in this city is sparse at best.). You are more than guaranteed to pick up fans in the process.
EDIT: Allow on-field play determine the better program, create tangible response to (or defense of) any Napoleonic Complex...
I actually pulled for UC alot until Huggins got ran out...I met Nick Van Exel a few times, pretty chill dude. I also hung out alot w/ Jermaine Tate during the limited time I spent @ Ohio State.
"Don't put syrup on shit, and tell me it's pancakes"
No matter how sh*tty the tour is, it's always tough to leave.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=263502132
Best part is Mark Titus still only played one minute
As a huge OSU fan and big fan of this site, I just have to say I found reading a lot of comments on this morning's skull session bashing the city of Cincinnati and the people to be pretty disappointing. Say what you want about UC and the basketball program but to diminish the people of Cincinnati as if they are lesser Ohioans.....you just end up coming accross as an elitist asshole. That being said.....Go Bucks!!!!
Nick: you know it was an absolute pasting when Thad used a 9-man rotation in that game.
I saw a comment above about Cincinnati news covering more Kentucky news than Ohio State news and I would say that is probably about normal. A few hundred thousand people in the Cincinnati Metro area live in NKY, where UK is king. I'd say that covering a team that about 1/4th or more of your viewing audience loves would be pretty beneficial. Whether Ohio State fans want to admit it or not, UC is a huge school, that had a lot of basketball success in the Huggins era and they were a bigger deal nationally during his tenure than Ohio State was. There are a ton of UC fans in Cincinnati, there are a ton of UK fans on the Kentucky side of metro population which is about 10 counties. Cincinnati news is just appealing to the audience it has. Sure there are a lot of Ohio State fans down here, and Ohio State gets some press, but why on earth would it ever get more than teams whos fans make up the overwhelming majority of the population.
What is so hard to understand that the Bearcats have a strong presence in the city of Cincinnati. The school has what, 40,000 students? They have successful sports programs and a ton of alumni in the city. Why would Ohio State get equal coverage here? I also can't understand why people get so pissed off about the bUCkeye State shirt that was clearly made just to piss Ohio State fans off. I saw it, and laughed because 1, I thought it was funny and 2, I knew that it was going to cause a bunch of RAGE in Buckeye land. UC fans are funny, to me at least, because they talk shit to troll. They know their football program isn't even close to being on even footing, but they'll argue like hell with a Buckeye fan about it just to piss them off, and it works. I do the same with UK fans and Buckeye basketball. I know Ohio State, isn't close to the program of UK, but I can pick and prod and get those fools into a rage within minutes, and it's amusing.
Albert, I realize that you're contrasting NKY v. Cincy limits (without saying so explicitly), but you're still confusing me a bit:
The first 2 comments came from a post where someone mentioned Cincy-tucky. I'm trying to say that, it's a statement that just isn't correct. People in NKY prefer to be Kentuckians and don't consider themselves Cincinnatians and vice versa.
The last one was a response to someone talking about the news coverage Ohio State gets in Cincinnati, where they notice UK gets more press than Ohio State. I'm suggesting in that post that there are far many more UK fans in the Cincinnati market than there are Ohio State fans. Being that 10 counties in NKY make up a significant portion of the Cincinnati Metro population.
Maybe northern kentuckians don't want to be "cincinnati" the population still gets it's news from Cincinnati because of proximity. The news channels are going to cover Kentucky because Kentucky fans make up such a large portion of their viewership.
Personally, I can't tell much of a difference between the 2 but honestly I can't tell much of a difference between where I live and suburbs of Columubs, Louisville, or Indy either. I'm just telling you the attitudes of people who live on both sides of the river. I gave the example of my grandpas and my best friend who is 30. It's a funny attitude, but I've seen the same thing with people who live in Kansas and Missouri on the border. Well I'll go to Kansas City for this, but no way I'm living there, I'm going to stay right here on the Kansas side.
Wow, a page 2! I'm flattered, everyone.