A University of Michigan fraternity has been suspended after sending semi-naked photos of themselves to a sorority as a party invite and calling them whores if not interested in attending.
In the email sent by Pi Kappa Alpha on Wednesday, the Ann Arbor chapter included at least 13 photos of the men posing naked behind American flags while suggesting it as similar attire for the women attending.
In one photo a sandwich is seen used by one man to cover his groin while in another a man partially hides himself behind a keg with the flag seen wrapped around the barrel.
Not to say I approve but I could think of way worse things for a frat to do.
The worst crime they committed was being in a fraternity in the first place.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
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I roomed with a Sigma Chi for two years and dated a 2 year president of Alpha Xi Delta whilest at OSU so I saw the ins and outs of the entire Greek system at OSU. Both people got me access to a side of college life that just didn't interest me. I didn't get the obsession then, I don't get it now.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
Not an insult
Not an insult, just a joke. Most of my friends at OSU aren't in Fraternities. As a student at an SEC school (Gave me more $ than OSU did) it's almost mandatory to go Greek if you want something to do on the weekends. Just depends on the school, I have nothing against people that didn't go greek at all.
Nor did I take it as one. Simply expanding upon my stance against the Greek system-its been bad form around these parts for people to say something and not have anything behind it so I'd rather explain myself further than stick stubbornly to an idea without giving direction as to why I feel that way.
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
The worst crime they committed was attending Michiscum.
An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches
Is it weird that I'm about to turn 32 and the generation currently in college scares the HELL out of me?!?!?
"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."
Naw. It's your job as an aging citizen to complain about how the next generation is destroying the very fabric of society and how the country is going down the tubes.
Now say after me, "Get offa my lawn!!!!!!!!"
"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes
THE Ohio State University
Fruits & Nuts
Seems pretty tame. Especially if it was new pledges. I don't care to look up the specifics, but Miami University has had some sororities/fraternities in the news at least three times in the last 2 years for some pretty bad behavior.
Then there was the race-heated party theme(s) at Duke and somewhere else.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
Why do you have to ruin everything?
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Hail I completely agree, it is tame.
Fraternities and sororities across the country get in trouble daily with their respective universities and national chapters. The crack down has gotten worse as PCism has spread throughout the ranks of college administrations. At least at Miami, I know several of the incidents you reference wouldn't normally become national stories if not for the new President David Hodge (total loser and likely virgin) sensationalizing the stories in an attempt to make an example of the chapters that have been punished. As he is openly leading a crusade to effectively destroy the greek system at that school, which as a side note is a shame because the greek system there has contributed a significant amount to the schools culture and reputation.
Using Miami as an example I will get to my point, two neighboring fraternities get in a friendly bottle rocket/roman candle fight, cops go into the houses and find some (ok fine a alot of) pot and paraphernalia. Wait kids in college smoke pot now a days? The horror, the shock, WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO!!!!! What will their parents, children of the 70's, think? As another example, take the ladies of Pi Phi from Miami and the infamous letter that shook the bedrock of the greek system. For starters, having attended their formals in the past I can say that nothing in that letter was surprising or shocking, and I'm positive ALL of it was grossly exaggerated. That was more a case of poor planning, they went to an uber conservative Christian affiliated wedding hall in a bible rich part of the state and decided to have booze filled party there the day before a huge wedding. Horrible idea from the start, bad judgment all around, that said nothing that happened there was any different then what occurs across college campuses nationwide 5-6 and for some 7 nights a week greek affiliated or not.
While I understand some people are "anti-greek" and thats fine they are entitled to their opinions, I just hope that people who lean toward that side realize its just not frat bros and sorority girls that do dumb and often times offensive things in college. I for one hope hope those UM kids DO NOT get in any trouble, they sent racy pics in an effort to woo women, so what? I'm not saying fraternity and sorority kids deserve a free pass, often the punishments they get absolutely fit the infractions and are well deserved. I am just hoping that the "going greek is evil and destroys the moral fiber of society" train de-rails and or preferably explodes, because I for one think that a lot of positives come out of being in a fraternity or sorority. That said, everyone should take that for what its worth as its admittedly coming from a former fraternity guy.
This post took entirely too much effort considering we're talking about dong sandwhiches.
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In the worst lecture I have ever suffered through and I ran out of internet browsing material about an hour ago. So I cant disagree, but please bear with me.
lol happens to the best of us.
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and all you had to do was write dong sandwiches to get my upvote
I am pretty sure I did crazier stuff than this, but did not have to worry about the internet or someones Cell phone uncovering my actions.
Edit "Back in the day"
I'm pretty sure the frats at OSU are way worse than anyone at UM could ever imagine. A stroll down 15th becomes a veritable freak show tour if it's remotely warm outside.
Even though unlikely because they are UM kids, gotta ask if the sandwich over the midsection had to be a foot-long
A french fry would probably do the trick.
Class of 2010.
Since they're 'Michigan Men' it's probably safe to say the size of the sandwich used to cover the one lad's groin was a small?
White Castles.
Fan of bacon since 1981
A slider? That'd make even more sense if the UM student who'd strategically been using the sandwich were in a sorority, not fraternity.
Chicks with dicks??
"We don't care what size it is so long as its a Michigan Man" said a member of the sorority in question.
nothing wrong with this
mark may wins douchebag of the year... again
Boys will be boys, nothing to see here. Not a big deal in my opinion.
Delta had a Toga Party, and they were on Double Secret Probation at the time.
Hilarious that this is a big deal. I don't even see anything wrong with it. Maybe it's overly fraternity-styled, but maybe those who have a problem with it should look at themselves in a mirror sometimes.
Perhaps they should have some adult supervision while this event is taking place. Being the kind of adult that I am, I will reluctantly agree to attend.
Adult supervision at a college party? Where most of the students are already adults.
P.S. if you are being sarcastic, ignore me.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
JACK TATUM
Agreed. Such is the ultra-sensitive, touchy, PC world we live in today.
There's always somebody melodramatic enough to find a way to be offended by something that doesn't affect them. If it were the sorority complaining, then there may be a story. Actually, no. It still wouldn't be worth it. Stop the world...I wanna get off.
Here's a link, though a true patriot like yourself surely knew this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code
It's notable because it's TSUN. That's about it. lol
Class of 2010.
The lack of flag etiquette is appalling. Any veteran of our military or Boy Scout would be ashamed of the treatment of the flag in this case.
From USFlag.org:
Flag Etiquette
STANDARDS of RESPECT
The Flag Code, which formalizes and unifies the traditional ways in which we give respect to the flag, also contains specific instructions on how the flag is not to be used. They are:
1.) The flag should never be dipped to any person or thing. It is flown upside down only as a distress signal.
2.) The flag should not be used as a drapery, or for covering a speakers desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general. Bunting of blue, white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe of the bunting should be on the top.
3.) The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It should not be embroidered, printed or otherwise impressed on such articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should not be attached to the staff or halyard.
4.) The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military personnel, fireman, policeman and members of patriotic organizations.
5.) The flag should never have placed on it, or attached to it, any mark, insignia, letter, word, number, figure, or drawing of any kind.
6.) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
+1. yes "1MECHENG "
the first one made me think of the last castle with redford, when he raised the flag while he was dying
Well, it also says:
So basically, the floor is lava for the flag? I'm sorry, but the reverence for a piece of cloth is a tad overblown.
This is much ado about nothing.
I'm not really a fan of what they used the flag for. A lot of service men and women have died defending that flag and the liberties it represents. I've proudly worn that same uniform and it's not just a 'piece of cloth' to me.
Thank you. I also just posted this.
As a college student (non-greek), this is pretty tame
But did they use glamour shots?
If Denard Robinson isn't careful with spooning all that food into his mouth, he's going to end up lookin' like Whoopi Goldberg
Aside from th aforementioned disrespect to Old Glory, I say let 'em live. God knows the collegiate PC police have drained enough craziness from campus frivolity already.
geeez Andy, agreeing twice in 10min..... 2 outta 3 aint' bad.
"There is a force that makes us all brothers, no one goes his way alone, all that we send into the life of others comes back into our own." -WWH
We need to be careful it doesn't become habit-forming, huh?
To snatch a bit of sobriety from this "frivolity" though (which it CLEARLY is), I am saddened at the flag etiquette.
There is almost zero reverence left, and I thought that the mdiwest would be the last bastion of flag decorum.
Sad that this is the fraternity that I was in 2 years ago. Did four years with Pike and what else could you say besides its just a fraternity being a fraternity. Honestly this is harmless to some of the things I have heard of our chapter on other campuses or other chapters doing on other campuses. Our Nationals I guess wasn't playing around.
Oh and let me say I was not a Pike at that school up north.. clarity.
I'm a little disappointed as a brother of Pike at tOSU. It wasn't too long ago, Pi Kappa Alpha was suspended at Tennessee for butt chugging.
lowest of lows butt chugging
Yeah they're now known as the Chug-a-Butt house. Kinda embarrassing right?
good god yes
I was Greek in college and anyone else that was can probably agree that your house is usually pretty close with at least a sorority or two. The article says nothing about them actually being offended. They probably thought it was just as funny as the guys did but the Greek life office probably found out and had to do something to save face. I don't really see any harm in it unless the sorority was sincerely offended. I have done plenty of crazy things during my time.
If the sorority was offended, then they should have hung up the phone and not agreed to do any swaps with them.
No one threatened or even came near them.
Shove it PC boo-boo-baby Nazis.
The girl that turned them in should have to attend ...... Michigan
I direct you to this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code
Tell me, can you find the relevant parts of the flag code that have been violated? Care to continue with your name calling?
1. I think you misplaced this and meant it to be near my flag post.
2. Don't need to read any flag code to know that I don't approve of screwing around near the flag like they were (allegedly) doing.
3. I am militant when it comes to the American Flag. While I do not think that it should be illegal to disrespect or deface the American Flag, I think anyone who deliberately does so is a piece of sh*t.
1. Not misplaced. I was referring to your post "Shove it PC boo-boo-baby Nazis". It isn't about being PC (whatever that is), I'm offended by their treatment of the flag. I'm also getting really tired of the Nazi card being pulled.
2. Agree
3. Agree
I assumed that my post was unclear when I saw the juxtapositioning of your reply.
The PC Nazis I was speaking of were the administrators who tracked down drunk frat boys acting like drunk frat guys and though you may be tired of the Nazi card, it is a perfect analogy for overzealous central administrators concerned primarily with their maintenance and exercise of power. If it trivializes the Nazis then that is okay also; the less respected that they are, the better.
I think that disrespect of the flag is far more objectionable than being drunks, though I think that stupidity and thoughtlessness are not actionable offenses.
They obviously don't make frat boys like they used to, regardless of where they go (in TTUN's case even less so)
"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest.Civil.War.Analogy.Ever