Growing up in Toledo, I have many friends who went to and/or are avid M*ich*igan fans. After hearing people, whom I deemed to be not very intelligent throw in their $0.02, with the same lines about how M*ch*gan is the "winningest" and their usual uppity schtick about how clean their programs are - I decided to do some research.
It is cool to claim you have the winnigest program ever but if you look at their football wins, you will see they count some huge wins over powerhouse programs like: Adelbert, American Medical, Ann Arbor HIGH SCHOOL, Beloit, Camp Grant, Chicago Athletic Club, Cleveland Athletic Club, Detroit Athletic Club, Detroit Industrial, Great Lakes, Peninsulars, Rush Lake Forest, Stevens Institue, Wabash and Windsor Club - to name a few. Now I know many programs have some odd looking wins many years ago, but I have yet to hear an intelligent comeback in regards to counting wins over high schools. Usually this turns to 58-44-6 about the rivaly. This too is annoying but I tend to rebute with something along the lines of "I'm sure you enjoyed all those wins in the 1800s but over the last decade and in my life time we have owned you..."
As for the squeeky clean image and the arrogance they like to exude, its nice to point out one thing...Even though they discount the RichRod era and the probation he landed them on that's fine. The one fact that I love, is that M*ch*gan has vacated more basketball game than any other college in the country. They are the all time leaders in vacated games. It's amazing to bring up and most M*ch*gan fans dont believe it.
So what arguments/rebutttals do you use against M*ch*gan Skunk Bears? I'm not talking about just "Mich Sucks" or scUM. What intelligent ammo do you use against our rivals up north??? Just trying to get my game tight while talking smack to friends...