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Rob Parker = TOTAL ass clown.
Race-baiting bigot. He doesn't belong on any kind of media outlet. Boot meet ass! How could anyone not like RG3? Everyone around him says how much he's just a great kid...he really seems like a good person, in addition to being a phenomenal athlete.
#boots to asses
I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me
......
Mike Wilbon is the only talk show guy I like at The Evil Empire. He's a Northwestern grad from Chicago, and a midwest homer.
Ditto
"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest.Civil.War.Analogy.Ever
The same Wilbon that calls Ohio State "cheaters" every time they're brought up. The same Wilbon that said Ohio State doesn't deserve a shot at the AP title? The same Wilbon that said Ohio State couldn't beat Arkansauce?
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
also the same Wilbon that said, on PTI, the Monday after The Spring Game a few years ago, when 80,000 showed up and set the Spring Game attendance record, ... "pathetic. Don't these people have anything better to do do?"
F-that guy, is my opinion on that guy.
The same Mike Wilbon that compared Dan Gilbert to a slave-owner.. I actually like Kornheiser a lot more.
The same Kornheiser that -insert negative comment here-
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
You have to remember that both guys on the show almost always have to show a differing opinion, so you'll have one guy you'll agree with and one guy you won't.
Parker's career right now amounts to saying ignorant things on television. A quick look at television is proof that you can do that a long, long time as long as people are watching.
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Bingo
I can't imagine we'll here from him anytime soon. He is being ripped to shreads in the media. His stupidity is all over the internet right now. I love Stephen A's response in that clip.
They should have RG3 call him to say he's fired.
Wherever you are, there you be!
First time I ever agreed with Stephen A Smith.
It is hard to admit it but I felt that way too. It doesn't feel right.
JT
That's when you know it is really bad when Stephen A becomes the voice of reason.
It hurts my soul, this must be what it feels like if I ever agreed with what Mark May has to say.
JT
I recall Parker being on a Detroit ESPN Radio local show around 12-13 years ago, and he has not improved. I usually turned the channel when Parker's show came on, because it always seemed that he was saying things that weren't genuine opinions, but merely things to get reactions.
The fact that Parker went from his horrible Detroit show to ESPN's First Take, is not shocking. It takes one helluva douche to make Stephen A look thoughtful.
damn i can't watch videos here at work. What did he say? I lived near Detroit for a few years and this guy was on sports talk up there on 97.1 and all he did was try to stir things up.
-The Aristocrats!
This idiot lives near me. I see him in line at Kroger and the fast food places. Looking around just HOPING somebody recognizes him. Everybody ignores him. I mean EVERYBODY. Seems as if I'll be seeing less of him on my TV and more of him staring at dollar menus. Ass clown.
Trotwood-Madison. Once a Ram, Always a Ram.
We're to the point where Stephen A Smith is bringing sanity and reason to shows on espn???? Not a good look Bristol, geez. Worst part is that RGIII is going to be asked about this at some point. What the hell is he supposed to say?
"No comment. Next question please."
"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."
"Who the @#$% is Rob Parker?"
I'm amazed his career didn't die, but really took off after he asked Rod Marinelli if he wished his daughter married a better defensive coordinator (taking a jab at DC Joe Barry)
"...but then again 'Michigan' and 'huge mistake' are synonymous so that shouldn't have been much of a surprise to anybody." - Mark Titus
I'd rather watch the 8th hour of the Today show with Kathy Lee & Hoda or the View than watch First Take. It's all the moo-rons watching it and talking about it that keep it on the air.
I can't believe there are still questions about a black athlete's being "black enough" and by black reporters no less. Grant Hill was a "Tom" because he had parents that were highly educated, successful and expected their only son to be too. The myth that you can only be authentically black if you grew up in the hood, had a momma on crack and a daddy in jail, needs to stop being perpetuated by folks like Rob Parker and Jalen Rose. Serena Williams did the crip walk after winnings gold medal in the London Olympics and was widely criticized for being too ghetto. So which is it? Act black (whatever that means) but not too black?
Rob Parker's study on RG3 yielded these results:
until he concluded, brilliantly, that if you wear braids, you are "black"
Wait, what? No one with half a brain says you have to be any of that to be "black". I didn't really see Serena criticized by other blacks for doing that. You also can't compare the thoughts of an 18yo Jalen Rose to the thoughts of a guy in his late 40s.
If ESPiN didn't fire Dana Jacobson for saying "F Jesus", why would they fire Rob Parker for this?
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Grown adult Jalen Rose is still saying that stuff.
Grown Jalen called someone an Uncle Tom? When?
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Did you see the ESPN film about the Fab Five?
He said clearly that it was how he felt then, not now.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Grant Hill and many others didn't take it that way.
Serena was criticized by other blacks for doing the crip walk.
Who?
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Considering Serena's older sister was murdered by gang members, I felt she should have used better judgement in doing the Crip walk.
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Does my BF count? How about the women I work with and other friends?
Well yeah, they count, but I thought you were talking about black media members.
I remember when I saw her do it live, I knew it was going to be made into a big deal.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
It should be enough that everyday AA's didn't like it. Although, Jason Whitlock did say it was inappropriate
I didn't really have a problem with it.
Jason Whitlock is the last person anyone should listen to.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
If ESPiN didn't fire Dana Jacobson for saying "F Jesus", why would they fire Rob Parker for this?
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Oh that is just fresh. Skip Bayless' follow up question "What do RGIII's braids mean to you" is even better. I am in awe of the sheer stupidity exhibited on this show but that has to be, without a doubt the most ignorant exchange ever let loose on the air waves.
I do know what he is hinting at here, I won't pretend to be something I'm not as I grew up in a pretty nice suburb of Chicago. My father is a self employed Dry Cleaner who owns 2 (and had as many as 4) stores in various parts of Chicago's south and west sides. I grew up in and around those stores having worked there for large parts of my child hood. I can tell you from personal experience that based on the vague definition of 'blackness' Rob Parker is trying to conjure up here that you Rob aren't 'black enough' (by your own metric) either.
There is SO much racism just permeating out of these comments if you take a moment to stop laughing at the stupidity and dissect what he's saying. He said "He's not really ... he's black, but he's not really down with the cause. He's not one of us.". Not one of us....do you know what that hints at? There is a word that people use when insulting African Americans that is one of the truly ignorant words in our vernacular. There are two words that African Americans use towards each other that are held in even more contempt than the former. He's calling RGIII the latter. And why does he feel this way about RGIII? Because he's well spoken? Are you saying other African Americans like you aren't? Is it because RGIII is a real gentleman and mature beyond his years? Are you saying other African Americans aren't? This 'question' is just ripe with inward facing assumptions about the African American community from a guy who wants to affiliate himself with something that was created by racism in the first place-the stereotype of the African American male.
The irony here is almost too much to get by. I am so shocked that I can't even be appalled-there is no room in my emotional locker for anything other than awe. This is a truly awesome display of stupidity.....
4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off
Excellent comment, with one minor quibble - and this is really my hang-up, not you saying anything out of the ordinary, but . . .
I will never understand how one person living in heavily urbanized NYC is supposed to be part of the same "community" as another person living in rural western Oregon because they are both of the same race/ethnicity/religion/etc. In general, the word "community" is used in all sorts of nebulous, artificial ways that make me gag. One of my least favorite examples is when people refer to an "internalitional community," as if any such thing could even remotely exist in the real world.
Down with the cause....that's another one that infuriated me. What cause exactly?
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That's a great point. "Down with the cause" or "down for the struggle" can mean anything the sayer wants/perceives it to mean. Rarely, if ever (that I've seen) is that phrase defined - i.e., what exactly is the cause/struggle from which person-X has strayed? Economic empowerment for young African American males? Seems like RGIII is promoting that "cause" pretty strongly. And so forth . . .
I'd be willing to bet that somewhere in the DC area RGIII is thinking to himself "Man I just want to play football"
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Wait, what? The only voice of semi-reason in that video and you don't provide a link? Anyone have a link to the response? I'm interested to see where it goes.
You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy
When I watch sports I want to get away from all the craziness of this world. I don't want to think about race, politics, religion, money, I just want to have a damn good time and escape my every day life. I am seeing these types of remarks more and more on the sports networks and I find it troubling.
Can't there be one place in our lives where we can get away from all this devisive stuff and just enjoy ourselves?
Our honor Defend!
As a college student I will be looking for an answer to that question at the bottom of every bottle..
As a former college student I can tell you that it isn't in that one. But it might be in the next!
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It's comments like Parker's that are the reason that racism is still perpetuated in this country today. It sickens me to no end. People like Parker are further perpetuating the myth that African-Americans are "different" from the white citizens of this country, referenced here by his critique that RGIII isn't "down with the cause". The hell does that mean? Last time I checked, he's a Texan transplant in DC--wonder if there's a bit of a culture difference between those two places.
It's amazing that almost fifty years since Dr. King's famed speech, people like Parker are still defining men by how the color of their skin should dictate the content of their character.
I won't let ESPN slide here either. They can take their stance and suspend the guy (deserved) but the whole idea of "First Take" is to have ass hats on TV saying ass hatty things in an effort to get people talking about said ass hattery. This is EXACTLY the kind of stupidity that gets the lowest common denominator of sports fans watching and in the end, that is exactly what the Booyahs want. So they can suspend to save face but make no mistake about it, somewhere they are secretly chuckling.
Its the same network who no more than 2 years ago asked the hard hitting question "What if Michael Vick were white?". Real neat concept. Take a charged issue with a galvanizing sports figure, look at him, see that he's black and say "What if he was the other color?". I'd love to have been a fly on the wall at that meeting.
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Not to get too far beyond the boundaries of this site, but the first sentence of your comment couldn't possibly be more wrong.
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Me or Hodge?
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I'm assuming Hodge but can you elaborate on why you think that way?
*Edit: Not talking to you Hodge, I'm referring to Buckeye_Chuck. Figured My original post was not that clear.
I felt the comment implied that if only individual black people stopped saying objectionable things, there would be no more racism. Not to belabor the point, but that's clearly not the case.
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That was not my intent in the slightest. I understand how it could have been misconstrued, though. It's the line of thinking that's backward, not the color of the man who said it.
That's your opinion, and you're certainly more than welcome to it. I tend to believe that people holding a person's character to the standards of what they expect from the color of their skin is the textbook definition of stereotyping. By broadcasting said opinions to an entire nation, we put forth the belief that one must succumb to their race's "cause", else be seen as not truly "the genuine article". Therefore, if you do not ascribe to a predecribed stereotype, you are labeled an outsider. What's the difference between this line of thought and thinking that he's "inferior"? Perspective. Both lines of thought are beyond ignorant.
We're never going to get past racism--which is still painfully apparent in this country in many a facet--until we get past the idea that the color of your skin means that you're instantly grouped into a predescribed archetype. Parker may not have intended it, but he was labeling RGIII as a cultural outsider because he "votes Republican, has a white faince, etc."; the fact that any of these things should be quid pro quo for calling someone disengenuine by the standards of their race is downright insulting--and not just to any race, but to humanity as a whole.
Brewster explains the implications of said line of thought much more in-depth in his above comment.
Add "has a white fiance" aka a "Becky" to that list
I appreciate the clarification, but I think where we disagree is that I don't have any illusions that Parker was speaking for anyone but himself. It would come as major news to me if his feelings about Griffin were widely shared, or even un-widely shared.
I've lived in Washington before, and I have little doubt that Griffin has been embraced by almost everyone.
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And to that point I do believe that you're right. I've not heard of that line of thought anywhere else pertaining to Griffin, but I do recall it being tossed around a lot during the election.
I guess what drives me nuts is that the media's influence upon the people is undisputed, we are completely shaped by the messages we receive. In a vicious cycle, the media--desiring maximum profit--plays to the idea of "debate" by having pundits take "extreme" positions. This riles up interest (good or bad, no publicity's bad publicity--provided you have an advertising budget), thus reinforcing the network's strategy. In turn, the people are shaped by these extreme opinions, thus making said programming necessary to feed their newly discovered bias.
At least in my opinion, that's why the American electorate has become so increasingly polarized over the last ten to twenty years. Not trying to talk politics or advocate ideologies here, just trying to draw parallels.
Sometimes pointing out differences between blacks and whites is often subtle. I remember last year after RGIII won the Heisman how many people said how "well spoken' he was. Black QB's are referred to as "athletic". While those comments could be seen as complimentary, there is a message in them that is derogatory. Why is it so unusal for a black man to speak well? Why are black QB's singled out for their athleticism as if that is all they can offer? It probably would have not picked up by me until my BF blew his stack during a Eagles game. He said why don't they just call Vick a "big, strong buck'? I started paying closer attention after that.
Yep. That was the point I was trying to make in my first post here. And it works on both levels. Think about ANY white wide receiver that has come into the NFL in the last 5 years and I would bet dollars to Buckeye Donuts that you or anyone for that matter can guess exactly which NFL Wideout said new guy is compared to. Without fail. Instead of taking someone and comparing them to a guy with similar styles-be it possession, deep threat, tight route runner, etc-'analysts' will look at rookie A and see he has one thing in common with an existing NFL player and BOOM. You have yourselves a "Wes Welker" type. Its a small thing but it drives me absolutely bonkers. Just because a guy is short and white, he's Wes. Why can't he be like Steve Smith? Short wideouts exist in the NFL and come in all sorts of shades. Its lazy analysis that some fans just grow accustomed to but never realize just how racist it ends up being.
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Yeah, and being compared to Matt Jones isn't even a compliment...
Well if he had been a decent football player instead of connoisseur of the booger sugar, we'd at least have two molds of white wideouts to measure with. The short, underneath sure handed Welker and the big, physical, fleet of foot Jones. I'd feel slightly better had there been more than one. Poor Wes man, every time a white guy comes into the league and ends up being a bum he gets to say "Guess he isn't like me eh? eh?". Of course, taking rookies and drawing comparisons to current players is lazy as a whole, let alone when dealing with the white wideout....but no one says those guys have to be good at their jobs.
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Normally I would agree with you about the "well-spoken" statement, but they probably were also referring to the fact that Trent Richardson and Tyrann Mathieu were nearly unintelligible. Frankly there aren't many "well-spoken" athletes out there, regardless of race.
Disregarding race completely.. RGIII was very well spoken (especially compared to Mathieu and Richardson) but I understand what you are saying and completely agree with it Pam. I believe there was an article about how black QB's were referred to as "athletes" and it included information about how white running backs were only "big bruising backs". I've been trying to find it but have come up empty so far.
ESPN: "Rob Parker has been suspended until further notice. We are conducting a full review."
As I find myself doing often, I agreed with Ta-Nehisi Coates' take on this whole debacling:
But really, to be upset or outraged that some pundit on First Take said something stupid (especially when it comes to race) is silly -- because stupidity and race-baiting have essentially become the crux of the show.
Also: the discussion in the comments in the Coates post is, per usual, very good.
Taquitos.
I'm sure ESPN isn't too terribly upset with the amount of coverage, because as they say bad pub is better than no pub.
Wayne Woodrow Hayes
Yep. ESPNloves when their stooges say controversial things to pick up their ratings.
And if the national outrage becomes too great, they'll throw him under the bus quicker than you can say Dan Patrick.
They are corporate whores
My thoughts are that he was hoping for a cheap laugh, until the journalist in the room asked the question. "What do you mean by that?"..... and then he proceeded to ramble and turn his shtick into a dumpster fire. reminded me of this instantly.
~Because we couldn't go for three~
"I'm really going to miss Rob Parker's thoughtful and insightful commentaries on sports and other news stories" - said no one ever.
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
He shouldn't be allowed to ever talk about anything that's not MLB related.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
All that he will tell you is that the Detriot Tigers are the best team in MLB.
Nah. He's a Yankees/Mets fan. Whichever team is on top is his favorite .
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
^^^^^