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Torg tweeted that he would like Desmond to get fired or die so that he could actually watch Gameday. Word is that he's been suspended, and yes, Herbstreit came on The Big Show and went off about it. 

Why does Herbie even feel the need to get involved in this?  Not to say I am surprised...seems like his typical posturing.  

I do listen to Common Man and the Torg sometimes on the way home from work.  They do make more then their fair share of death jokes.  So I wouldn't say this was out of the ordinary for the Torg.

Torg should've left out the die part.  If he did, I'd completely agree.  Howard sucks, and it's not just cause he's a TSUN guy.

I have zero sympathy for Torg.  You have a public persona that represents a radio station: I'm sorry, but you don't make jokes like this public.  He made the choice to air his opinion for the whole world to hear, and he has to deal with the consequences of embarassing his employer.

For example, I'm a huge fan of really dark, filthy, and macabre humour: but I don't make the twisted jokes that I find amusing here on this site because I know it's not appropriate for some people, and is a detriment to discourse.  I'm twenty-three, Torg's thirty-eight.  He should know better.

Also, I don't blame Herbie for defending Howard:  they're colleagues, and by all accounts, get along swimmingly.  It's a testament to the institutions that shaped both men that they can look past their competitive hatred to work together so cordially.  Howard made the right decision for himself, and is hated by his home state for doing so: can you blame him for laughing at the derision directed toward his success?

Why does Herbie even feel the need to get involved in this?  Not to say I am surprised...seems like his typical posturing. 

I do listen to Common Man and the Torg sometimes on the way home from work.  They do make more then their fair share of death jokes.  So I wouldn't say this was out of the ordinary for the Torg.

Because Torg called for the death of one of his coworkers. Death. We're talking about football here, not warfare. Herbie travels the country working with Des, works beside him for hours at a time, probably sees him outside of work eveery so often. In short, they are civilized.

Letting a rivalry escalate to publicly wishing someone dead, when you have a loud megaphone, and (I'm not saying it is likely) there are crazy people out there that might take this serious.

He got suspended but from what Mike was saying during the show today it does sound like he will be back. Torg's just not too bright of a guy. 

You guys serious? I like The Common Man and Torg, don't get me wrong... but Herbie has EVERY RIGHT, and damn near obligation to speak on this. Maybe if you took the time to listen to what he said in reference to it you may have a little bit better of an understanding as to where HE was coming from... Desmond is a longtime co-worker of his yes, but these dudes are also friends-- close friends.  He was disgusted by the comments, and the fact that this was re-tweeted millions of times didn't help; Desmond's wife and daughter being among those re-tweeted. The man felt as if he had to step up and defend his buddy and his family.. so what? If given the opportunity who wouldn't? I agree, Desmond still sucks and I puke every time I see the Heisman celebration-- but I would never wish death on the dude... kinda "out there" don't ya think?

anyway.. off my soapbox--- GO BUCKS!

I apologize if I offend anyone but I guess I don't understand the big deal.  I don't think this could honestly be taken as a real death wish (and certainly not a threat) upon Desmond Howard.  Don't get me wrong, I don't think the tweet was classy by any means.  In fact, I find many of the Torg's comments to be somewhat reprehensible.  However, I do not think Herbie or anyone else needs to act like they are protecting Desmond Howard from a statement that seemed to be made in jest.  In this day and age in America it seems as if every action is met with overreaction and this situation is another example of that.  

To be fair, ESPN doesn't understand how bad a personality is until he is gone. See: Craig James.

I agree with the predominant view that the tweet was better off not said and in bad taste.  That said, put things in perspective here.  This was a joke, and is just another bit of 'sports hate'.  There are plenty of things that are said in reference to sports that people don't get offended or even bat an eye, but if they were said in different contexts, they would be wildly offensive.  This is just another example of that.  Think about other things said in regards to football.  "screw blue", "muck fichigan", at the shoe on kickoffs, O-H-I-O, Rip his...you get the point.  Again, the tweet was not well said, but anyone who regularly listens to CM&T realizes that the point was that Desmond Howard is terribly biased and makes the show hard to watch, not that he should actually die. 

Yeah I posted this on another thread that he is suspended indefinitely, whatever that means.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/jlu44l

The show is boring now.  Common man and Torg make my hour drive home more enjoyable with their high school like personalities. Suspending him was wrong, it's just a tweet.

It hasn't even been a full week yet. I'm sure String Bean will let Torg return in due time. 

torg. citgo. ding. common man will speak on it at 3.

Common Man barely said anything. Boooooring.