Eleven Warriors

Some people just can't have nice things.

I use a complex mathematical system to come up with who I downvote. It works out to be about the same as Buck-I.8's criteria; excessive negativity, personal attacks, trolling, ridin' dirty, etc. 

Seems like there's been a rash of rampant "I dislike your opinion" downvoting.  Seems like some people are having trouble drawing that line.  For me, at least, I'm pretty liberal about upvoting posts; but it takes something pretty clear cut to warrant a downvote.  Granted, not everyone needs to follow those rules, but it seems like there's a lot of comments getting downvoted that are drawing the ire of a lot of the site's established commentariat.

@BOF Rebuttal: You can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater. First amendment rights are tacitly forgone in the name of everyone's welfare, it's the social contract.

Thus, I downvote when other poster's ruin other people's good times with their being jerks.

Sometimes buckeyejason tends to take it too far, but since he's posted here for a long time, I give him the benefit if the doubt and am able to recognize his various tones.

It's mainly when new posters come on here and start trolling (re:Brutus the Champ) where I'll be quicker with the trigger. You have to earn your right to be negative

I haven't seen anyone get downvoted more than 5 very often. I feel like there needs to be more upvotes so when people see -3 they don't go "OMG why is this getting slammed?!" because it then it should get at least 3 upvotes by people countering the idiot voters who are mis-using the downvotes.

I feel right now a lot of people comment because that is the primary way to get stickers. If you comment well and get lots of upvotes, there wouldn't be a need for so many pointless comments.

I try to upvote a lot. If I like the post or if it said something I wanted to say, I upvote it. If it makes me laugh, I upvote it. Sometimes I upvote just based on the commenter, like guys I know have been around and are good commenters, I upvote them almost in honor of the legacy I feel they deserve from the pre-sticker era.

@BUCK-I.8 - See, I disagree on that point.  I don't think you ever "earn the right to negativity", the commentariat just starts to better understand each members' "style", which might tend toward forgiving certain members due to their pre-established "tone".  Though the more established posters' helmet sticker totals allow for recovery from prolific downvoting if the wrong thing is said, which could almost be seen as insurance against "saying the wrong thing".  Perhaps that's what you were implying, but I think that voting should be held to equal standards amongst everyone.  

On a somewhat related sidenote, this thread is an absolute upvote-fest.

Hodge, I know no politics are allowed on 11W but if that ever changes, my vote goes to you my Buckeye friend.

You're not the only one Sir...

Wait dont upvote for legacy! How am I ever gonna get on the top 100 board now?

In my opinion, upvotes are for bringing new information and novel insight into the discussion, while downvotes are for personal attacks, name calling, and being deconstructive in any way, whether it's a targeted phrase or a "you people".  I don't upvote or downvote based on my opinion and agreement.  I also don't upvote people for getting downvoted to balance them - after all, the voting system relies on all of us to respect the opinions of others and if someone else thinks something should be downvoted, I won't upvote just to spite the downvote - that is abuse of the system in my opinion.  I also don't vote down people that are negative, as long as they are not negative on others or the opinion's of others.  I don't think every comment deserves an upvote.

I think that by and large, folks are using their voting rights responsibly.  Sure, there are a number of downvotes that make me say "huh?" every day, but I think its rare for someone to get hammered for an opinion that is not purposely insulting or incendiary.

Likewise, massive amounts of upvotes seem to be reserved for comments that are truly deserving.

Bottom line: I think the system is working.  Its not perfect, but then again, neither is the Buckeyes' defense (let the downvotes rain down for that comment).

Wow. Im glad I got in this discussion while the upvoting was hot.

This thread is a complete abuse of the system, and I love it.  In fact I love you all; platonically, at least.  UPVOTES ALL AROUND! 

DOROTHY MANTOOTH IS A SAINT!!!!!!!

This is a good thread, but we REALLY need another ballgame to talk about!

sir rick- you get an upvote just for your great avi. i never knew what schadenfreude truly felt like until i watched bret bielema lose football games.

Generally I don't vote much.  For me the upvote bar is set lower (more likely to use it), while the downvote is for extremely bad (not as likely to use it).  Downvote is more for innappropriate, offensive, rude, discourteous, blatantly trolling (and not in a funny way, in a malicious way), and/or abusive comments (and also things Bielema would say in an internet forum).  Upvote is for thoughtful, informative, and/or funny comments.

I'm just looking for votes

If it is Nappy, we can all say we were there. Don't know how that would look on a resume.

@btalbert25

DOROTHY MANTOOTH IS A SAINT!!!!!!!

Genius! HAHA, I have a fantasy football team named Dorothy Mantooth Saints...nice post.

But back to the subject at hand. Basic agreement with the concensus here. While I currently don't have voting priviledges, knowing how voting works on TOS, I find it counterproductive to just downvote for the sake of downvoting. As a person with a BFA in Art & Tech from OSU, I'm conditioned to getting and giving criticisms. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they hate you. Sometimes it's a good way to get varying viewpoints. It gives us a chance to be less myopic. I like knowing what others think and like knowing why they think that way. I don't know, that's just me.

I don't know about the first but it certainly won't be the last! :)

Here ya go!

Someone had to try to spoil all the fun.   oh well.   more upvotes for all!!

Sir Rick - Good discussion.  I basically follow Jason's lead here.  Only down vote someone when they violate the commenting policy (after all, the policy is a link right above the Post New Comment box.)  I do upvote if I really approve of what is being said, the comment is really informative, or there is civility exhibited when expressing a contrasting opinion, even when it contradicts my own viewpoint.  I know that I have been down voted simply for stating an opinion - I don't use down votes like that.  But, vulgarity will almost certainly earn anyone a down vote, if not from me from a multitude of others (I am a big advocate of the f word, it has the most meanings of any word in our vocabulary, but it ,along with many others, can quickly degenerate a healthy forum discussion into a mud slinging contest, so I don't use it).   One last thing, when I see someone who has been down voted simply for expressing an opposing view without violating the commenting policy I give them an upvote.  I think there are many others who do that as well. 

The upvotes have gotten out of hound on this thread, and I love it!  Vote For Pedro is awesome, love Napolean Dynomite.  I pretty consistently ask folks "how much you wanna bet I can fire this pigskin over that mountain?!?!?!" 

Dorothy Mantooth Saints is an AWESOME team name. 

So let's recap, today in various posts we've had Matt Foley, Anchorman, and Napolean Dynamite references.  It's a great day at 11W.

Seems I'm a little late to the party... But if nothing else can we just...

 I got 2 down votes on this thread

Ok, so I don't much every mention helmet stickers, but I suggest anyone who has posted a few comments on this thread check your totals.  When this started I had around 960, because of this crazy thread and the fine folks commenting I'm just about to hit the 1000 mark.

Of course mentioning it will probably garner me several down votes now lol, but check out your totals you probably have received quite a nice bump this afternoon.

I refuse to get easy upvotes by jumping on the end of this thread and commenting

Good day All !

Wife's asleep on the couch, I'm bored, and I feel like this thread needs more Lebowski...

Edit: I need a ruling on this, but I'm pretty sure this thread is officially out of hound.

I try and keep from downvoting unless it is something that is really out of line (like the comment made in the Purdue roundtable). Upvoting I sorta look at like I look at Twitter in terms of thinking if I would RT because it was funny or good content. Just because I don't agree with somebody's opinion I don't downvote it. We are like snowflakes, we're not always gonna agree.

1000 means I post entirely too much during the work day.  This is what happens when I have extremely busy periods followed by a lot of downtime.  Funny thing is I rarely comment during games or on weekends, but man o man do I comment a lot from work!  Probably doesn't hurt that my office is my basement!

You're all out of your element

This thread has made me very unproductive this afternoon...but that was likely to happen anyway so at least it was something to pass the time. It's also made me laugh a lot...so thanks guys...good stuff.

i'm gettin some good looks from people here @ work...laughin like an idiot at the lebowski comments

I don't think giving us peons the ability to view who is upvoting or downvoting us is a very good idea. I fear it might lead some people on here into Inigo Montoya-esque quests for vegencance on anyone who downvoted them...

@showthem... yea, I was about to ask the same question, should voters id's be visible?

Jason = banhammer.

You here for the upvote bang?

I'm not in the "vote club" yet, I was wondering if you accidently downvote something can you change your vote to an upvote or is it permanent?

I try to upvote liberally...and agree with everyone else who is doing the same.  I feel the downvote is only relevant in a few circumstances.

@BuckForLife - Do not think you can change your vote, once done it's done. And JesterTCF - It seems that would be caught and the "criminal" would probably be banhammered. Jason said he found and dealt with the person that downvoted everyone in a Creed forum (a creed fan) for giving negative views on the band. So it is good to know that it could be done but in the end justice would be done.

im still upvoting this thread... just sayin mwhahaha

This thread is getting out of hound.

got my first downvote on this thread.....hahahahahahaha

I admit that my posts can sometimes be a bit extreme or even "mood" based..and you might even be able to say I'm a bi-polar commentator, but I never mean any harm or intent to "troll" anyone. I don't really see the point of the voting system but that's just my opinion. We're all here for the same reason, to talk about our beloved Buckeyes.

I-O!!

Is it just me or do 80% of the comments on this have 1 downvote? Is that the same person? Is it a cruel experiment? Oh, the humanity!

I will downvote thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my Buckeyes.

And you will know I am the One Bad Buckeye, when I lay my downvote upon you.  

I'm pretty sure I get downvoted more than anyone in the top-10 on the Helmet Stickers Leaderboard.  On the other hand, I usually have an equal number of up-votes on the exact same posting...so don't ask me.

on the case of the "The Venomous Downvoter"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6m6bpxkjP4

Ok I up voted everyone except one I accidentally hit down on buckeyejason so I found another post of yours to up to counter. My bad. Jason11W- we can't change our vote after accidentally voting wrong? Can that be a fix?

This thread is amazing!!

@d.bradfordii  I see your almost as young as me and I'll bet you loved the Woody years too.

Also Thanks for your service

Damn - I missed this thread...feel like I just got to the party - but the party has been going on for 3 days & now all the chicks are gone, the booze is all dried up, and the sunlight is blaring through the window while a few random stragglers wake up & walk out...Too bad - looks like it was a good time...

Yes!  - I got a downvote!! I guess that serial downvoter is real..Although it turned into something else this was a good topic for a forum & it would be cool if the voting was used as intended..

11W was way better before the voting system...and before these scUM fans showed up.

Timing in life is everything fellas. Can't 11W call the exterminators? 

Another of my general upvote rules, if you post a pic/gif, I will upvote you. I wish I could upvote the really funny ones twice.

DSAV you need to get 50 helmet stickers first.  Check MY ACCOUNT... that will tell you how many you have.

May as well give us all upvotes.  I've become sticker obsessed, but can't keep myself in the upper echelon because of work and family.  I knew I shouldn't have gotten married and had kids............

Late to the party, but I thought this applied:

VOTE OR DIE!

This topic should be re-named "Whoring for Upvotes".

This thread has become a "voting place" in the fine tradition of 19th century elections:

I just got my "voting rights" too.  Excited to finallly be included in upvoting and downvoting. 

I kind of wish there was a "that comment offered no insight, or humor, or anything useful and kind of just wasted my time for reading it button," But I would title it "C'mon Man"