Brady Hoke Says He'll Name a Starting QB 'Early in Fall Camp'

June 28, 2014 at 6:00a    by DJ Byrnes    
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Bad news for Ohio State fans who enjoy iconic images of Michigan failure: Devin Gardner has yet to secure the starting QB job for the 2014 campaign.

A couple months ago, Hoke admitted Shane Morris has "narrowed the gap" with incumbent Devin Gardner, but he wasn't ready to name either as the starter.

Brady Hoke still isn't ready to commit to a starter, but he has a timeline in mind. From MLive.com:

"Even though we have a starter coming back (at quarterback), I think that's a great competition," Hoke said. "At the end of the day, somewhere early in fall camp, I think that position will be secured by one guy.

"(Someone) who will go out there and lead this offense and lead this team. But, at the same time, having the ability (to have depth) if a guy gets dinged up, or a guy isn't having the day he wants to have or we want him to have. There's an opportunity for the next guy to come in, and that's what's been great (about this)."

I'd be shocked if Devin Gardner isn't tapped, but I guess Michigan OC Doug Nussmeier wasn't known for his use of dual-threat quarterbacks during his time at Alabama.

Either way, it's nice Ohio State doesn't have this dilemma as they head towards fall camp.


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sharks's picture

Being as objective as possible, what a counterproductive distraction this is.  You have dual threat qb and a pocket guy competing.  Does that mean that Hoke has no idea what kind of offense he'll be running yet? The offensive line must be thrilled.

The postgame show is brought to you by... Christ, I can't find it. The hell with it...

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OSU_ALUM_05's picture

I'm pulling for Shane in hopes that the locker room drama created by benching a senior in favor of a sophomore spills into the media and creates opportunities for us to mock them ...again.

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Habu71's picture

The memory of Tom Harmon, cemented in *ichigan man irony as Gardner sits on the bench watching someone else lead them on to mediocrity. I really need this to happen. 

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InvertMyVeer's picture

I kind of wish we did have someone to push Brax a bit, competition brings out the best in people. When Brax was off to a slow start against Wiscy last year all it took was a few warmup tosses from Kenny G for No. 5 to return to form. This team is going to miss our former beloved backup more than I like to admit, and the spring game didn't give me a whole lot of confidence on that front. Hopefully when the time comes, and with Miller's injury history it likely will, one of the younger Bucks will be ready to step up and make plays. Of course I'd love to be wrong and have Brax healthy all the way to the national title. 

Football is complicated...

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rosycheeks's picture

He was just practicing football on a Friday night, so I'm not too concerned about his motivation.

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InvertMyVeer's picture

I'm not worried about Braxton's motivation at all really, just brought up Wiscy as an example. I think Urban, the master motivater, was actually bluffing there. It's the guys behind Brax now that I'm not so sure about though.

Football is complicated...

saltybuck61's picture

This may be a moot point, but it was the Northwestern game where Miller started off slowly. He had one of his best performances of the year against Wisconsin. Either way, I completely agree with your point. Competition brings out the best in people. 

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InvertMyVeer's picture

Oh yea good call it was NW. Yeah, it's not like I doubt Brax wanting to win, but competition pushes everyone to do better, which in turn is better for the Buckeyes. I believe we have a real shot at a title this year but we will likely have to run the table to do it. If Brax goes down at a key point in a game we don't have the same ace up our sleeve as we had in Guiton. Go Bucks!

Football is complicated...

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nfischer's picture

It may have been during the Wisky game, I'm not sure...but that definitely happened at the Northwestern game.  All it took was a little smooth jazz being played on the sidelines and Miller was dancing like we knew he could.

BroJim's picture

Such a great photo.

I season my simple food with hunger

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M Man's picture

Of course what we later found out was that Devin Gardner played most of that second half with a broken left foot.  He was a warrior that day.  Inches, and one dumb play call, from beating the Bucks.

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rosycheeks's picture

You've brought this up many times. Apparently his coach isn't that impressed.

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BroJim's picture

Why did you reply to my comment? What's your point, that he had a great day with a broken foot? Maybe he should break his foot again so he can win that starting job. It's a great photo and that's not becasue of the person featured in it.

I season my simple food with hunger

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Oyster's picture

Perhaps he replied because this is an internet forum and dialog between posters is encouraged?  M Man is a respected contributor here, even though he supports the wrong team, and my guess is that he was simply trying to get a conversation going.

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BroJim's picture

Right, a conversation that has already been had (See comments). It's like posting another Hilliard, Nick Connor, ect thread. Why?

I season my simple food with hunger

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Boom777's picture

Did you say Alex Anzalone?!

Wherever you are, there you be!

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Chief B1G Dump's picture

Too bad it wasnt horseshoes or hand grenades, M Man...

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Fatpants's picture

He was a warrior with a foot pumped full of cortisone and god knows what else until there was about 30 seconds left. Then he turned back into Devin Gardner. 

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Poison nuts's picture

It is a great one! Don't think I've seen that angle before...

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

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New alum's picture

I would be surprised if Morris overtakes Gardner. Then again, I didn't believe it when my brother told me Robinson had "narrowed the gap" with Forcier between '09 and '10, either.

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Knarcisi's picture

scUM deserves a QB controversy with these 2 duds. 

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Oyster's picture

What we've tried to empress upon Devin is

Empress?

FitzBuck's picture

em·press
ˈempris/
noun
a female emperor.

sounds like he was describing Gardner.

Fitzbuck | Toledo - Ohio's right armpit | "A troll by any other name is still a troll".

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Oyster's picture

I just shook my head.  There will always be little mistakes that slip by when you proof your work, just look at DJ's Skullys as an example.  But that?  That jumped right off the page.

BME_Buckeye's picture

We might not be in that situation now but next year we will be. Better enjoy it now because UM will be a head of us in terms of QB progression and development. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

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M Man's picture

It's a problem I'm pleased to have, to be honest with you.  I don't think it is much of a question, barring an unknown injury with Devin Gardner; he'll be the starter and captain of the '14 Wolverines.

If Shane Morris is ready to play, that's great.  We're likely to need him like you have needed Kenny Guiton in '12 and '13.

Naturally, nobody at Michigan has any cause to criticize the wonderful Braxton Miller.  I just wonder why anybody else in the Conference would ridicule Gardner:

QUARTERBACK RATING RAT
1. Braxton Miller, OSU 158.1
2. Devin Gardner, MICH 146.1
3. Nate Sudfeld, IND 142.0
4. Nathan Scheelhaase, ILL 140.7
5. Joel Stave, WIS 138.1
 

In passing yardage, Devin Gardner threw for more than 2900 yards, at 8.6 ypa, second in the Conference.  Braxtion Miller threw for just over 2000 yards (ninth in the conference), with a ypa of 8.2.

Braxton Miller was not just the  #1 rated passer, he was the #7 runner in the Conference.  Devin Gardner, the #2 rated passer, was the #19 runner (total yards gained) in the Conference.  Braxton had 12 TD's and Devin had 11.

You've got a great QB in Braxton Miller.  But sometime in the fall of 2014, you may be very glad that you've got another good quarterback in Cardale Jones.

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Oyster's picture

So here is the question.  Nuss was brought in to run a pro style offense, right?  Do you play Gardner and force him out of his strengths of being mobile?  If you let him play the way he is the most effective, when Morris comes in it will be a 180 in the way the offense has to play.  Can the young line adapt from one style to the other?

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M Man's picture

Here's a kind of a non-answer answer: by all accounts, Michigan's playbook under Nuss is going to be about 60% the size that it was under the active imagination of Al Borges.  What I hope is that it will translate into better execution.  No matter who is the QB.

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Oyster's picture

Are you in politics?  If not, you should be ; )

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M Man's picture

I'll never win a spot on the Ann Arbor City Council.

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Oldschoolbuck's picture

That says more about your character than you probably were aware, M! :)

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Furious George 27's picture

If Miller played in every game, comparing passing yards might mean something. He missed pretty much 3 games in which he could had added to those numbers significantly. And that's not taking into consideration all of the games where he left with a lead for the back ups to come in. Stats are great and all but my guess is that at 7-5 Gardener was pretty much playing every minute of 12 games. That makes a huge difference when comparing numbers.

Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

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InvertMyVeer's picture

Plus basically a fourth of Gardner's td's (5 of 21) and a big chunk of his yards came against Indiana

Football is complicated...

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M Man's picture

See?  You're stuck on my somehow thinking that Braxton sux.  I didn't say that, and I don't think that.  I think I wrote that Braxton was "wonderful."  Maybe you thought I was being sarcastic.  I wasn't.

Braxton Miller is a very real Heisman candidate.  My only point was that Devin Gardner is a very fine Big Ten QB.  He'd be a starter just about anywhere in the Conference, except Ohio State where he'd be ahead of Cardale Jones on the QB depth chart and might be a starter at WR.

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Furious George 27's picture

Actually I am just saying that you cannot just look at QB stats and compare players. While saying Gardner could start for almost anyone, I can make the case that he couldn't because outside of OSU, Michigan has more talent on its team the the rest of what those other B1G QBs are working with. 

Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

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KeithMC33's picture

M Man,

Question for you... Which of the 2 would you rather have starting for you guys this season? I only ask because the guy who sits 15 feet away from me is a huge UM fan and he just raves about Morris. I didn't see him play in the bowl game so I honestly couldn't tell a thing about him other than he's a lefty. 

 

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M Man's picture

Gardner, I guess.  One thing about all of my comments; you rarely read me criticizing the coaches or second-guessing them.  All of the coaches (at Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State) have forgotten more football than I'll ever know.

I have seen flashes of Vince Young-like brilliance from Gardner.  How he finished the OSU game, I'll never know.  From that evening, for more than 12 weeks (I think), he was on crutches or in a walking boot.  As you know, he did not play in the Buffalo Wild Wings (typing those words is painful) Bowl or in our Spring Game.

Our Spring Game was an offensive clusterfuck.  Actually, there are many clusterfucks that are probably a lot better organized.  And Devin Gardner is now on his third Offensive Coordinator since he's been in Ann Arbor.  I may have a prejudice toward Devin because he is naturally such an intelligent, decent, ordinarily-disciplined guy.  

But back to your perfectly good question: in our craptastic bowl game, Shane Morris played pretty decently.  Our loss was not on Shane.  Our bowl loss was the culmination of everything wrong with Al Borges.  An incomprehensible offense in which nobody blocked and Michigan did not have a rushing game.  For his own part, Shane showed some good poise, but of course he was no difference-maker.  Shane's arm is good.  As good as any Michigan QB I've seen in the last couple of generations of Leaches, Harbaughs, Bradys, Grbacs, Hensons and Hennes.  I guess I'd say this to you; I don't look at our roster the way that an NFL scout would.  All I care about is guys who can help us win collegiate games.  I like the way that Devin Gardner can (I think) win football games.  The coaches watch these guys every day, and they analyze the game film and the practice films and they know a lot more than I can ever dream about.  So they'll decide.

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buckeyedude's picture

I hate to admit this, but I think Gardner would be a much better QB if his O-line wasn't so bad. When you're constantly scrambling for your life, it's hard to see open receivers.

 

 

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Bags5150's picture

Plus 1 helmet sticker for the use of clusterfuck and craptastic in the same post!

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth~Mike Tyson

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cajunbuckeye's picture

I see the flashes of Vince Young as well...

 

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

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dubjayfootball90's picture
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allinosu's picture

Rooting for Gardner, Shane will go crazy watching another year.

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Buck Commander's picture

Doesn't matter who the Quarterback is they still suck and WILL lose to The badass Buckeyes!!!!!! yay yay

Every time I set my DVR to record Biggest Loser......It always records Wolverine Football Games!

Patriot4098's picture

Shoulda' stayed at WR... lol

"Evil shenanigans!"     - Mac

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Groveport Heisman's picture

I tried telling a *ichigan  fan awhile back that bringing in a new OC and starting  over from scratch would take away a ton of advantages Gardner had over Shane.It further shrinks when its brought up that they want to focus on a smash mouth Pro style offense. I realize that fan base somehow has to have something to believe in and right now it is shrinking the playbook and focusing on bread & butter type of plays. If the offensive line does not improve drastically over last years unit I think they will all realize exactly why Borges had to keep expanding his playbook and keep trying something "else", because I watched *ichigan try to line up and play big boy Stanford football and God as my witness they couldnt even achieve Akron or UCONN bully status. Borges tried to do what they all think NUS is going to do and it just wouldnt work. Last year all their problems came from the middle of their line and their tackles played solid. This year they lose both of those tackles and experience and are expecting those guys that struggled in the middle to somehow be better out wide at tackle a much harder position to play. Put me down now and heavy on that team struggling mightily on the offensive side this year. I think fans will be begging to  have old Borges come back. You can shrink a playbook when you have a dominant oline,when your oline and everyone else struggles to  make simple blocks you have to be creative like Borges and find a way.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

nfischer's picture

Put me down as saying no one will be begging for Borges to come back...it was that bad.

Seattle Linga's picture

I hope the soap opera up North is better than expected this upcoming season. There are only a few coaches that could pull this off and Hoke is one of them.

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DJ Byrnes's picture

good for M man

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TossTrap's picture

This is a very weak attempt by the UM staff to get another quarterback ready to play. Anyone who thinks the QB position at Michigan will be lead by someone who doesn't have substantial live experience in reading defenses, is living in La La Land.

Gardner may very well be a little out of shape or "sync", but seriously?

First and goal at the five and Arch is getting the ball.