Three-Star CB/WR Recruit Gary Haynes Shows Ridiculous Athleticism in Vine Video

May 5, 2014 at 10:37a    by DJ Byrnes    
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Gary Haynes is a three-star 2015 recruit from Texas. His 24/7 page lists him as a CB/WR prospect, but it appears Haynes could play quarterback in a pinch. His favorite target? Himself.

Not sure how useful this skill is on a football field, but that's pretty crazy nonetheless.


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BierStube's picture
He needs a dog like this!

 

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TresselourgodUrbanoursavior's picture

Not real or unreal. I can't decide

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Unky Buck's picture

Given the trajectory out of his hand, I have a tough time believing that this is real...unless the wind caught hold of that ball and took it much further than it was going to go.

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Crimson's picture

The throw is at a very high angle, almost like a punt.  It's believable.

Unky Buck's picture

That ball was thrown nearly straight up and he ran approx. 40 yards (it's a guess but seems about right) to catch it. I'll go conservative with a 75 degree angle upwards and 40 yards out meaning he would've needed to throw the ball 75-80 yards upwards in order to get it out that far. Granted wind could play a factor, but since it appears to moving right to left in the video, it wouldn't effect how far away it went (although it should mess with where it lands). Here are some other variations to either side of that:

  • At 80 degrees and 40 yards: it has to be thrown 110-115 yards upwards
  • At 80 degrees and 30 yards: it has to be thrown 85-90 yards upwards
  • At 80 degrees and 50 yards: it has to be thrown 140-145 yards upwards
  • At 75 degrees and 30 yards: it has to be thrown 55-60 yards upwards
  • At 75 degrees and 50 yards: it has to be thrown 95-100 yards upwards

And kicking it is very different than throwing it. You get more torque and more force kicking it. The ball goes much higher which brings down the distance.

Also, if you factor in the wind blowing left to right and how high it would have to go, the trajectory of the ball would be effected as well. I just don't find it feasible that this could happen at all.

Plus, let's be honest, it's a Vine video with obviously someone else around to record it for a purpose. What's stopping him from having someone behind throwing the ball for him to catch it? Call me jaded, but despite what the commercials say, not everything you see on the internet is true (or possibly real in this instance).

Edit: I'm undershooting the angle of the throw to prove a point. Even at a lesser angle, that ball has to be jacked into the air to make it there and there is no one who can throw it that high to make it happen. That angle is probably damn near 85 degrees and spiking those numbers even more. I'm fully on the side that someone else threw the ball that he caught.

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Crimson's picture

And kicking it is very different than throwing it. . . . The ball goes much higher which brings down the distance.

And that's exactly what he did.  I'm not proving that he did it.  I'm claiming that it was possible.  If you have a big arm, you can throw a 60 yard pass, and in doing so, you have to throw it upward 45-60 yards anyway.  How is it impossible to throw at a steeper angle as a tradeoff for yards?

Here's a whole video of things that are "impossible."  And yet, the guy did it over and over and created a tape with only the successes.  I hope this video affects your thinking.

 

Unky Buck's picture

The kicking video is cool but it's not changing my thought on the kid throwing the ball. Again, kicking is just different than throwing a ball as it can be kicked further due to more force and energy being exerted into the ball at the point of impact. But still, even at the last part of the video, it's actually proving the physics that I'm going with here. Here is your question:

How is it impossible to throw at a steeper angle as a tradeoff for yards?

Easy, because the steeper the angle means the higher the ball has to go to get to a certain point in order to get it out to a certain distance. That's what my bullet points were saying. Since most QB's aren't throwing the ball 100 yards downfield, I highly doubt a high school kid is going to throw it 100 yards up in the air to get it to that point. In the kicking video, near the end, he kicked the first ball at a higher angle, which shortened its distance while kicking the second ball at a lower angle and increasing the distance. He couldn't make those 2 footballs collide in mid air without doing that. Kicking it at a higher angle shortened the distance needed for it to get to its peak and the kick at the lower angle, when they collided, still hadn't reached its peak yet and it was well beyond the peak of the other ball. Of course the force of the impact between the ball and foot plays a role too, but the basic principle is (without any interference and at the same velocity) that the angle in which it goes up, it'll come down the same way. So in order to increase distance, you either have to increase the height from ground level or lower the angle (again, assuming the same velocity). For instance, to throw a ball 40 yards at a normal angle of 30 degrees, the peak of the ball only needs to be roughly 12 yards up from the throwing plane. To do the same thing at 60 degrees requires a peak of 35 yards. It's an exponential increase as the angle of the throw increases. Once you get to really steep angles, though, you're basically throwing the ball that far and letting gravity do the rest. In this case, he would need to throw the ball somewhere between 80-120 yards (or even much more) in the air with no wind and through the force of gravity just to get it that far out and I doubt there are professional QB's who can do that. So, again, I don't believe this is real.

Edit: I also should note that the 80-120 yards is for it to just get to the peak before it starts its trajectory downward and not the total distance the ball will travel.

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Crimson's picture

Too long Unky.  If you're going to say the video looks odd, just look at the shadow of the ball he throws and the one he catches.
 

BTwrestle04's picture

Look at the shadow of the ball coming in on the left side of the video. Clearly fake.

Doc's picture

That would be a sweet trick play.  The fools up north would fall for it three or four times a game.

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MacG91's picture

He had to slow down a little to catch his pass..

Mac..yeah

FROMTHE18's picture

the fumblerooski has nothing on this…imagine if this ever happened in a football game 

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Oakland Buckeye's picture

I thought at first that was Cam Newton throwing to his #1 WR target.....

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bukyze's picture

I can't figure out why this is getting so much publicity.  The throw ball in the air - run and catch it.  I did this all the time as a kid whenever I didn't have anybody else to toss the football with.  Granted, it was a nerf, but still.

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BroJim's picture

Is he even wearing shoes?

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Bolt's picture

Psshh, I saw Brandon Weeden complete a pass to himself once. 

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Kaceybrown's picture

Lol, Brandon Weeden completed a pass? 

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Bolt's picture

lol, inorite! 

 

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