Myles Turner Commitment Preview: What are Ohio State's Odds?

By Mike Young on April 30, 2014 at 11:00a
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The past year has been a long, public process for Myles Turner, but his decision day is finally here.

Compared to a typical, lauded high school basketball star, Turner's recruitment was delayed. He suffered a broken ankle in his sophomore year, which prevented him from playing in AAU events during the summer of 2012. Thus, Turner was somewhat of a mystery to high-major college programs.

That all changed in the spring and early summer of 2013. While schools such as Oklahoma State and Texas A&M developed an early relationship with Turner, the majority of programs on his final list began their efforts, in earnest, last April. In that respect, Turner is unlike the recruits who are able to make informed decisions before their senior year. 

He spent his first official visit on a trip to Columbus, taking in a rain-soaked affair at Ohio Stadium. Since Turner's October tour of Ohio State, he's been on official visits to Oklahoma State, Kansas, Duke and Texas. He also took unofficial visits to SMU and Texas A&M. 

Factoring in the trips to campus sits, in-home visits from coaches, and all-star games with potential teammates, Turner will pick one of the following seven schools, today at 4 p.m. EDT on ESPNU. Eleven Warriors breaks down his decision, with help from various beat writers and analysts: 

Duke

Luke Kennard got away from OSU too

The top recruiting class in the country doesn't need Myles Turner to validate its consensus No. 1 ranking, but his skill set could be of great use.

Him and the fellow 6-foot-11-inch Jahlil Okafor would be a nightmare for opposing teams who try to attack the rim. Their offensive talents would also mesh well.

"Coach K has preached that the two can co-exist and even would play them together, which would give Duke a very formidable front line," said Brian Horace, who covers the Blue Devils for DukeBlogger.com. "With the ability of Turner to hit the mid-range and short-range jump shot, he could draw defenders away from the lane and clear space for Okafor to operate."

Duke loses Jabari Parker and Rodney Hood to the NBA Draft, but the incoming freshman ease the sting of their departures. In addition to Okafor, head coach Mike Krzyzewski brings in five-star point guard Tyus Jones (also a one-time Buckeye target), five-star forward Justise Winslow and four-star wing Grayson Allen. Horace does not believe the chances of Turner joining them are particularly high.

"Clearly the coaches believe there is still a chance, otherwise I can’t see why they would bother with the in-home visit, last week," Horace said. "I would say the good money would be on Texas or Kansas, but it’s hard to say, as there isn’t a team on his list that doesn’t already boast a decent front-court. Duke, however, is probably on the outside looking in."

Kansas

The Jayhawks come into today as one of the perceived favorites for Turner's services.

Over 40 percent of the writers on 247Sports' Crystal Ball predicted he'll pick KU. Since last summer – and even after adding a commitment from Cliff Alexander – many predicted he would head to Lawrence. When Joel Embiid declared for the NBA Draft, it officially opened a spot for Turner.

"Bill Self loves having a true rim protector on the floor, said Rustin Dodd, Jayhawks beat writer for The Kansas City Star. "Theoretically, Turner could slide into the hole left by Embiid's departure, but it's probably not that simple. They have a lot of bodies returning in the front court and it'd be interesting to see how it would all fit together."

Including the sure-fire lottery pick Embiid, Self produced 10 big men that turned into NBA Draft picks. That's something Turner can't ignore. 

"Self does have a solid track record of developing big men, and KU will always play inside-out," Dodd said. "So, he'd fit the system, as well."

At least Ohio State will always have Brutus
Turner, on his October visit to Ohio Stadium.

Ohio State

As much as Duke and Kansas would love to add Turner to their 2014 classes, the Buckeyes are truly in desperate need of a talent like him.

Ohio State will bring in Temple transfer Anthony Lee, but his offensive potential is not in the same stratosphere as Turner's. Unless he makes large strides over the summer, Lee does not have range out to the three-point arc like Turner.

Buckeye fans are also well aware of Amir Williams' limitations, particularly when it comes to holding onto the basketball. Turner, even with his lanky frame, continues to improve his low-post game and has, at the very least, displayed solid hands. On the other end of the floor, combine two 6-foot-11-inch post players with Thad Matta's typically strong perimeter defense, and it would be nearly impossible to score on that OSU team.

Since his October visit, the Buckeyes have been trailing the other schools for Turner's commitment. Five of the teams on his list requested and received an in-home visit with Turner, last week. Ohio State and SMU were not among them. 

"Coaches didn’t ask for them," David Turner, Myles' father, told SNY.tv. "If coaches wanted one, we definitely would’ve gave them one."

That's either a sign of supreme confidence or resignation (I'll side with the latter). 

Oklahoma State

While Ohio State's chances have fallen apart, despite Matta's relationship with Turner, Oklahoma State has been there since the beginning.

Before most other high-major programs offered Turner, the Cowboys' staff was in full force at Turner's games and open gyms. In the end, it might not pay off, but you can't blame them for trying. John Helsley, who covers Oklahoma State sports for The Oklahoman, thinks OSU would immediately challenge Kansas if Turner picked the Pokes over the Jayhawks.

"OSU already has good pieces in place, and coming with their latest recruiting class," Helsley said. "Turner would give the team a focal point and open things up on the perimeter for Phil Forte and closer to the basket for Le’Bryan Nash, Michael Cobbins and Kamari Murphy."

Head coach Travis Ford is looking for someone to fill the void left by Marcus Smart's departure. Obviously, Turner isn't a point guard, but he would command a large percentage of the offense. With that many touches and a close proximity to his hometown of Euless, Texas, Oklahoma State cannot be completely discounted.

"Turner hasn’t tipped his hand – at all. But he is on record as saying that among all the schools that are recruiting him, he felt the deepest relationship with OSU’s coaches," Helsley said. "So there’s some comfort there, as well as a knowledge that he’d step in and play as many minutes as he can handle, as the No. 1 option. That doesn’t necessarily come at Kansas or Texas."

SMU

A short time ago, Southern Methodist's chances with a recruit of Turner's caliber would be slim.

In the wake of a revival under head coach Larry Brown, and securing a commitment from Turner's friend, five-star point guard Emmanuel Mudiay, they're suddenly a contender for the local star. Turner even called SMU a "dark horse," in an interview with Mustangs Madness writer Omar Majzoub. His thoughts on the Mustangs may just be a terrible pun (as well as another annoying Katy Perry song), but Turner backed it up with an unofficial visit to SMU's campus.

It's not just about proximity (roughly 30 minutes from Turner's hometown) or Brown's experience at the NBA level. As they proved by nearly making the NCAA Tournament, last season, the Mustangs are legitimately talented. 

"SMU is going to be pretty loaded next year, with or without Turner. They are only losing two seniors and returning their top-two leading scorers in Nic Moore and Markus Kennedy," Majzoub said. "Turner's ability to score in the post and play an inside-outside game would greatly benefit the Mustangs, who, at times, struggled to score in the half-court, last season. Turner would also really help SMU's image around the country."

Considering the Mustangs made Turner's final list, it says a lot about where the program is headed. Still, they're well behind the other six schools chasing Turner, in terms of basketball success.

"I don't think Turner sees SMU as being on the same level as the others schools recruiting him," Majzoub said. "I think the fact they don't have great history as a program and they play in the AAC really hurts their chances."

Also damaging their chances is they, along with Ohio State, did not set up an in-home visit with Turner, last week.

"Mudiay has said before 'Myles knows how good we could be if he came here, so I'm not bothering him about it,'" Majzoub said. "Turner may like a lot of things about SMU, but I don't think it's enough to get him to chose the Mustangs over some of these other major programs." 

Texas

Combining hometown proximity, historical success and their ability to send players to the NBA, Texas is considered the most likely landing spot for Turner.

They're also pretty good in the NBA
Turner draws comparisons to Aldridge and is a Durant fan.

Without last season's success, however, the Longhorns might not be in this spot. Coming off an under .500 season and an appearance in the College Basketball Invitational, Rick Barnes' jumped off the "hot seat" and led his team to the NCAA Tournament.

Behind breakout, soon-to-be junior Cameron Ridley, Texas went 22-9 in the regular season. With no departing seniors, they're poised for more. Jeff C., who writes about Texas basketball for Barking Carnival, thinks Turner would complement Ridley and play at the "four" spot.

"With that cast, Texas would have a capable four-out offense and a pair of dominant defenders patrolling the paint," Jeff said. "Further, Texas is counting on improvement from young guards like Isaiah Taylor and Javan Felix. The Longhorns look like a Big 12 contender whether Turner comes or not, but adding Turner will have Texas fans dreaming Final Four."

Texas fans might be pessimistic about their chances of landing Turner, based on Barnes' history recruiting in-state. For example, he's recently missed on the aforementioned Justise Winslow and Emmanuel Mudiay, plus Marcus Smart, Julius Randle, Aaron Harrison, Andrew Harrison and Kelly Oubre – just to name a few. 

Still, Texas insiders are optimistic Turner will end up in Austin. 

"He has made multiple unofficial visits to Austin, and he saved his final official visit for Texas after making a promise to Barnes," Jeff C. said. "Further, Turner has spent his weekends in Houston working out with John Lucas, and it just so happens John's son, former Longhorn Jai Lucas, is now a special assistant under Barnes."

He isn't the only one predicting Turner will choose the Longhorns. It's trending that way on 247Sports' Crystal Ball feature, and other Texas writers are leaning the same way.

"In my opinion, it will be an upset if Turner commits anywhere other than
Texas," said Matt Cotcher, Managing Editor of Horn Sports. "From what I've heard, Kansas is his second choice, but it's a distant second, at this point."

Texas A&M

The most surprising school on Turner's list, considering recent success, is Texas A&M.

He's serious about the Aggies, taking an unofficial visit to College Station in March and reportedly welcoming head coach Billy Kennedy for an in-home visit, last week. 

Kennedy has to go a long way to fight the perception of his basketball program. In this case, the reality is he's never reached the NCAA Tournament and is only 50-49 in three years on the job. Yet, the on-court draw might be the relative weakness of the SEC and the Turner's high usage in the A&M offense.

"Turner would add size and strength to an Aggies team who really had trouble on the boards last year especially in the SEC," said Mike McCoy, who covers Texas A&M sports for ABC40 in College Station. "Looking at the competition in the SEC, especially now with Kentucky bringing six players back, a player like Turner could make A&M a contender right away, as they are bringing back 11 players on what is a forward and guard heavy team."

Off the floor, Turner has spoken about his solid relationship with Kennedy and the Aggies' staff. The Euless native would also only make a three-hour trip from home, if he chose Texas A&M.

Despite the proximity, McCoy does not believe that will sway Turner to College Station.

"Attendance to A&M basketball games is at an all-time low and in plays maybe fourth fiddle as far as buzz goes," McCoy said. "Turner would be an instant starter and star for this team, but I just don't see him ending up in Aggieland."

47 Comments

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Larrinator's picture

Please come to Ohio State! Thad Matta is a great coach, second most wins for a coach in the first 14 years at a school. Only behind Roy Williams. 

Larson

sivaDavis's picture

Kansas. Was waiting to hear a decision from Joel Embiid. Would be shocked if he became a Buckeye.

"I've had smarter people around me all my life, but I haven't run into one yet that can outwork me. And if they can't outwork you, then smarts aren't going to do them much good." - Woody Hayes

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FROMTHE18's picture

nothing Ive read lately makes me even remotely confident he ends up in Columbus. If he doesn't, best of luck to him.

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TheShookster's picture

Getting beat by Dayton was a shot in the pride. I am now more realistic about my expectations regarding next year's team even though the recruiting class is elite. HOWEVER. If Myles Turner does choose OSU, I will immediately revert back to expectations of national championships, Naismith awards, and carrying Thad Matta off the court on my shoulders after they win the 2015 National Championship.

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Barnsey69's picture

Great player...I'll enjoy watching he and his fellow Dukies get beat by (insert random BFE conference representative) in the tourney next year.

Go Bucks!

Thank the Maker that I was born in Ohio, cradle of coaches, US Presidents, confederate-stomping Generals, and home of The Ohio State University Football Buckeyes!

+1 HS
OSU069's picture

I really doubt he's going to Duke.

Zimmy07's picture

I'm still holding out hope but my guess is he's going to pick Kansas.

Hovenaut's picture

Not necessarily the sport I follow the most, but we sure could use a gray box 'round these parts.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

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CGroverL's picture

I know this is stupid, but maybe someone (we Buckeye fans are so smart) can help me out with this....

The University of Kansas is the name of the school where the "Rock, Chalk, Jayhawks" (I never understood that, either so maybe someone can help me with that, too) play, right? The name of the school is THE UNIVERSITY of KANSAS, but they are called KU and have all kinds of merchandise that replicates the KU insignia. If anyone knows why, or knows what "Rock, Chalk, Jayhawks" means, I'd like to know that as well.

"I hope they're last in everything"

Thanks, Urb!

Jason Priestas's picture

Don't know the backstory on KU, but my hunch is that Kentucky, another early basketball power, beat them to UK, so they chose KU to differentiate?

As for RCJ, Wikipedia is your friend.

jamesrbrown322's picture

It's also the University of Oklahoma, but they go by OU.

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

Unky Buck's picture

University of Colorado is the same. They go by CU.

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tennbuckeye19's picture

Dyslexia is a dirty, dirty whore.

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Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Well NU doesn't stand for 'Nebraska Univerity' (it stands for Nowledge).

bukyze's picture

I will print this page and eat it if he chooses OSU.  And then chase it with some scotch.

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TraSmith4's picture

Never even requested an in home visit.... should tell you all you need to know.

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seafus26's picture

Texas fans might be pessimistic about their chances of landing Turner, based on Barnes' history recruiting in-state. For example, he's recently missed on the aforementioned Justise Winslow and Emmanuel Mudiay, plus Marcus Smart, Julius Randle, Aaron Harrison, Andrew Harrison and Kelly Oubre – just to name a few. 

Thats quite a collection of just a few instate Texas kids Barnes has missed!

Go Bucks and michigan STILL SUCKS!

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AlwayzABuckeye614's picture

On to the next one,,,,,

 

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topgun67's picture

waste of energy and time.  Turner is a goner.

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buckeyestu's picture

Turner knows he would fit very nicely into the Buckeyes starting lineup. Amir would make a decent 4 to 6 minute backup, and if this dream were to happen, then the dream of a National Title would dance away in my head. However, I am a big believer in reality, Turner I think is off to the land of Oz and Dorothy. Good luck Mr. Turner wherever you land.

d5k's picture

Texas has a way of nabbing these top 10 1 and done recruits and then doing literally nothing with them on the court.

chicagobuckeye's picture

Kevin durant was a big disappointment...

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avail31678's picture

I know it's maybe not as "hot" as football recruiting signing day, but will we get some sort of "near instant" update on this?

Deadly Nuts's picture

I thought I saw scarlet in that box for a second.

LEBRON

Zimmy07's picture

I think it's on ESPNU.  I can't watch it from here, though.  So far I can't find anything even on Espin's U website.

HighBallAce's picture

And yet another reason to hate the burnt orange....Ick

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sbentz4's picture

Didn't see that happening

hobochops987's picture

He's committed to Texas.

Trust in UFM

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Deadly Nuts's picture

Welp... Trevor Thompson better get that waiver approved.

LEBRON

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Zimmy07's picture

I'm starting to see things that indicate he is going to Texas.

NObuck-I-inTEAM's picture

That hat look so damn stupid!!!

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Knarcisi's picture

He should be "committed" for that hat. 

RedsBuckeyeBoy's picture

Whew! We really dodged a bullet!

I was worried that a commitment from Myles Turner might cut into Amir's playing time. A-M-I-R!

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ITWASME's picture

Watch Amir come out and win B1G POY and prove everyone hating on him (myself included) wrong. I'd laugh

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RedsBuckeyeBoy's picture

I would love it if that happened! 

(No sarcasm font needed. I honestly hope the kid makes me eat crow.)

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buckeyedude's picture

Das some funny Shiite right there.

 

 

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wyatt's picture

Turner staying in state in Texas is no surprise. Now Matta needs to keep Ohio's best. 

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Jeeves's picture

Peaked lapels are admirable but that bow tie selection and hat kill the ensemble.  

Johnny-Shane_Utah-Falco's picture

Oh well. I like our chances with Giddens next year. If he didn't pick OSU, I'm glad he chose Texas or SMU instead of Kansas. 

Deadly Nuts's picture

At least he didn't go to a team already loaded with talent.

LEBRON

hit_the_couch's picture

Hook'em!

Oh wait, I forgot I don't watch basketball.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

Knarcisi's picture

Huh, a 5 star hoops player from TX that didn't go play for Kentucky. 

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Barnsey69's picture

Not gonna fault the kid for staying close to home. He's probably one and done anyway...good luck to him.

Thank the Maker that I was born in Ohio, cradle of coaches, US Presidents, confederate-stomping Generals, and home of The Ohio State University Football Buckeyes!

oldbuck60's picture

Since he's not a Buckeye, glad he went to Texas! Will probably present no threat to us in NCAA tourney...Barnes always finds a way to screw things up!!

 

oldbuck60

Barnsey69's picture

Heyyyy, that's my last name! But it's true...just ask my wife.

Thank the Maker that I was born in Ohio, cradle of coaches, US Presidents, confederate-stomping Generals, and home of The Ohio State University Football Buckeyes!