Dear Lord...please let Ohio State destroy A&M in the national title game next year...
What's up with the Miami Heat hat? I thought he was a Houston Rockets fan?
I'm so tired of this guy already. One helluva qb, but just stfu. Secondly, don't you have to be 21 to gamble?
I'm hiding baby and I'm dreaming
I'm riding down your moonlight mile
Someone on Twitter was saying it's legal to gamble in a casino that doesn't serve alcohol if you're 18+ (in Oklahoma). Sounds like the kid drove 45 minutes to gamble.
I grew up in the north Dallas area. The casino is like an hour or so north of Jerry World, and people used to go celebrate their 18th birthdays by testing their luck at the Choctaw Casino. Completely, 100% legal.
where'd all that cash come from? win the cotton bowl, and they pay cash?
damn all pryor and posie got, were tattoo's!?!
Sounds like he's spending Mommy and Daddy's money.
I personally would NEVER let anyone take a picture of me holding a wad of cash if I were an NCAA football player, no matter how I got said cash.
If you were the Heisman winner & ESPN prince at 20 how different would you act?
The trouble is camera phones and social media ruin it for the kid.
His performance in the Cotton Bowl shows he's above it.
I remember Troy Smith being 15lbs overweight and not at his best in FLA OSU and I would never hate on him.
I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me
Camera phones and social media don't hurt him at all. He looks totally aware that there is a camera on him and posed with all of his(?) money in hand like a garden-variety new-money douche. I credit him for keeping it together on the field but this off-the-field stuff will catch up to him eventually. I pray that Brax improves his passing game tremendously so we don't have to hear about this guy constantly for the next two years.
"this off-the-field stuff" being what, exactly? I get that he's under the spotlight, but if I'd just won what appears to be in the neighborhood $1000, I think I'd be pretty excited in the picture I took too. It's a 20 year old kid who just won a good chunk of money at a casino. Chill out with the "new-money douche" commentary.
I'm just a hater.
Chill out with the "new-money douche" commentary.
Agreed. First of all, it's factually incorrect: His family - on both sides, from what I understand - is pretty loaded. As for the other "off the field stuff," his mother moved from Kerrville from College Station to make sure he kept his ass in line after he got arrested in August. Pretty sure the Manziels are doing all they can to keep him from repeating his mistakes.
I don't know. This guy enjoys the limelight an awful lot. I'm getting a feeling that he's going to be declared ineligible sometime within the next 2 years. Texas has plenty of Longhorn fans that would love to provide the evidence that nails TAMU's prize qb.
Down here in North Carolina, NC State fans have provided much of the evidence that exposed the shenanigans at UNC.
Aesculus excellentium cum MCMLXV.
I don't know. This guy enjoys the limelight an awful lot. I'm getting a feeling that he's going to be declared ineligible sometime within the next 2 years.
You call it "enjoying the limelight." I call it "acting like every overprivileged college sophomore with a smartphone and a Twitter account."
Don't get me wrong. I want Braxton to kick his ass in the Heisman voting next year. But I think criticizing his character over some Twitpics is a little absurd.
So far he's right on track for turning into a violation. Model girfriend. Floor seats at NBA games. Gambling weekends. It's not just twitpics.
We've seen this sort of thing again and again in cfb. Guess we'll just have to wait and see if Manziel is the exception.
His model girlfriend is a fellow A&M student - it's not like he's jetting to LA every week to hang out at the Playboy Mansion. His gambling weekend, as far as I can tell, is him going to a casino close to where he just won a bowl game and blowing off steam with a few buddies. The NBA floor seats were probably paid for by his wealthy family in celebration of his Heisman win.
I get where you're coming from, but I think the Legend of Johnny Football has been extended to include his off-the-field activities, none of which appear to be illegal, and somewhat unfairly.
"Floor seats at NBA games"
That in and of itself, is cause for an NCAA investigation...
But because it's "JOHNNY FOOSEBAWL!!", the media will never report it.
The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.
Has anyone ever known or hung out with an tOSU football player or played major D1 sports on this site?
Lots of temptations
never judge just be happy we win and no players cross the line or at least get caught
Very true. I went to school at a university with a FB program as big as OSU's and I saw first-hand some of the "temptations" on offer to the ball players. Fact is, many players couldn't keep their hands off, but to my knowledge no one ever got caught. Everyone kept things on the DL.
My ex-gf's dad used to brag about giving hundred dollar handshakes to bball players at another university, including one household name ex-NBA star. He never got caught either.
This sort of thing happens at EVERY D-1 school. Most of it just never comes to light.
LOL EXACTLY. None of you seem to have lived on the same dorm as football players your freshman year (morrison tower waddap!!)
If cameraphones/twitter/instagram etc were around back then, man the pictures ...
Hell, we could say that about ourselves at his age. It's not like ATYPICAL for college kids to drive long distances to casinos and take idiotic shots "posing" with "bills" and crap. Lighten up people. If he's not breaking any law (or even any NCAA bylaw), then what the hell. It's a free country.
Im sitting at marketplace, 8 feet away from Tommy Brown, with his Beats, and his iPad, and his fresh new shoes. Even the guys that don't play act like they're rich superstars. It's just the culture
This kid from little ol' Kerrville, TX (home of the wonderful Kerville Folk Festival) is moving down a dangerous path. He's a small-town kid who has been thrust into the glim-glam lifestyle almost overnight. And the College Station, TX community is absolutely mesmerized by A&M's rapid ascendancy into the center of the college football universe.
A&M has never experienced success like this. But I think it's happening too quickly and the school doesn't have the capacity right now to ensure that all T's are crossed and I's dotted from a compliance standpoint.
A&M is riding the wave, but this is not going to end well for them. I lay you odds some shifty dealings are going to emerge in the next few years. It may have nothing to do with the staff; there are simply many newly christened boosters in College Station who don't know how to conduct themselves.
In that respect, A&M will probably fit right in to the SEC ;-)
I beg to differ about TAMU. They are a historical top 20 all time football program, they have been to about a dozen Cotton Bowls, and they have plenty of big time boosters. Yes the Heisman hasn't been frequent in College Station but they are not a Johnny-come-lately program.
Exactly, 20 Cotton Bowls when it meant something to go to the Cotton Bowl. It wasn't all that long ago they gave the Buckeyes a tough game in a BCS bowl either.
You're right that they're not a Johnny-Come-Lately program, but they are a very marginal top 20 all-time team. Their winning percentage (60%) is slightly above mediocre, and they were considered second-tier in the Big 12 (to UT and OU) and did almost nothing in the SWC prior to the mid 1980s (they won exactly one big bowl game before mid-80s...the '67 Cotton Bowl).
My point was only that they have never been an elite football program. A&M was either a stepping stone for coaches like Bear Bryant or a backwater that couldn't attract enough talent to keep their coaches employed (like Gene Stallings). At least not without extra benefits (Jackie Sherrill).
I have been to College Station three times in the past year and I see the irrational exhuberance that might typically precede a fall from grace. I might be wrong. I hope I am. I actually like the Ags. I just don't have a good feeling about Johnny Football's rocket to stardom.
I have to say that his little money hand gestures last night have me leaning toward not being a fan of this kid. He is certainly talented and had a absolutely magical season but I look forward to someone catching him flush in the sternum next season to see what he is really made of. Let's also remember that WVU put up 778 yards against OU this season.
I sure hope braxton dethrones this arrogant sob next year with a national championship and the heisman
Takes $ to make $. Not saying he's getting paid, but flashing that in front of a camera is a dumb move. I imagine his coaches / dad will sit him down for a talk soon.
This coverage reminds me of the Tebow mania craze. The difference is Tebow was made out to be a saint and over time appears to be a legit guy. Let's see how, or if, this kid matures going forward. Will the media have thier next boy band football player or not???
Yeah and what did Tebow's genuinely saintly lifestyle get him? A whole ton of HATE. Much of it from this very same website whose denizens are now ripping Manziel for being basically the opposite of what Tebow was. Tebow takes trips to impoverished overseas locations to perform public health services. He's 'hated on' and we're 'sick' of him. Manziel hams it up with Lebron and poses obnoxiously at a casino. Guess what? Same result.
It's a lose-lose situation for these young athletes with public images. Haters gon hate.
I think the Tebow hate was due to over-exposure by ESPN, it was for me anyway. I admired his character very much but I hated hearing his name when they were discussing something which had absolutely nothing to do with him. They always found a way to shoehorn his name into the conversation. Add in the fact that he was a part of the team that housed us in 2007 and it's not really surprising. "Johnny Football" might be worse by the time he goes to the NFL.
This kid isn't using his smarts at all. While this may be on the up and up ... the reality is it raises serious questions. Wonder if the NCAA will find this bag man?
I wanna go back to Ohio State ...
Isn't this kids family pretty rich?
Well to do or not it's still not wise for any student-athlete to be waving around cash; nevernind the fact that said waving of cash is happening inside a casino. Bag man comment was more of a jab at the NCAAs propensity to turn the blind eye when it's either convenient or easily excused.
I'm not hating on the kid at all. His Alabama game was brilliant. BUT let's not forget he also had the best O-Line in America last season. Both Tackles are Jrs who are projected to be first round picks and their center is a senior. The guards were both sophomores this season so they'll be back. Things aren't going to come as easily next season for Johnny Football. The O-Line is what really led that team to success this season and if they have to replace of starters from that line, no way they have the same success as a team next year. Which also means Johnny won't be as good either.
He's a Heat fan? That is a bigger reason to dislike him.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Considering I just had dinner with him last night, I can attest to the fact that he is a cool ass dude. He also lost all that money, which he won on some slots, an hour later at blackjack. He does like to spend money though. He isn't arrogant at all as some posters above make him out to be. Before any of you pass judgement on the kid, how about you actually talk talk to him in person. I have.
What did he have to eat?
"Lets beat the shit out of Michigan".... Urban. Frank. Meyer.
Surf and turf. Filet and lobster tail.
You're not helping him any.
I am just being honest lol. He doesn't need an anonymous Internet poster (to all on 11W at least) to help him.
He's walking on thin ice. I hope he just stuck to craps and blackjack. If he walked up to the sports wagering booth and put a single dime on any sports team, he's just committed a pretty big NCAA violation. Regardless, the simple fact that he's in a casino is going to bring some unpleasant attention from the NCAA. If I'm Kevin Sumlin, I'm sitting down with that kid and saying "Dude, you need to keep a lower profile".
I have no beef with him. He's a fine football player and I'm sure he's a cool dude. But the SEC is filled with sharks. I could foresee a situation where a booster or fan from another SEC school trips him up somehow. Just a simple "Oh, you're out of chips? Here take a couple of mine. You can pay me back later" could get the kid in trouble. For his sake, he needs to tone it down a bit.
That's why upperclassmen should win it. They have the maturity to handle it.
all our friends drove to windsor so we could get trashed when we were 18 - not much different IMO.
I like football
People seem to be in a rush to pass judgement on this kid. I'm not that much older than Manziel and can't say that I wouldn't be doing what he is doing right now, which is enjoying his success. Is it smart to be posting pictures of yourself with cash in a casino? Obviously not, but he is still a kid, is not doing anything illegal, and has recently become a national celebrity. It is extremely tough for a kid to stay humble when something like that happens so quickly and takes a lot of maturity, something many people gain from their college experience.
There's a few things to think about with some of these college athletes. This kid's family is loaded, and it's not a violation for them to give him family money and for him to use said money to go to casinos and get floor seats at NBA games.
What if his parents set up a college fund of some sort for him and since he got a full ride to college now he has the equivalent to 4 years or tuition to piss away. The NCAA may sniff around some, but it's not like he comes from the backgrounds a lot of these kids do.
Matt Leinart partied all the time and was a celebrity out on the town even before he left for the NFL. If he isn't doing anything wrong, he has no reason to change his behavior. If it's his families money and the don't mind him spending it, and he's not breaking any rules who cares how he acts.
I don't see what the big deal is, he shouldn't flash the money only because it could be taken the wrong way and people with wnat to find problems with the photo, but he is a kid who just won a big game, he is celebrating
This kid doesnt learn to tone it down he wont be playing much to lead A&M to any national titles. classic case of letting the hype turn you into a moron.
"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.
I've gotta be honest, if the QB for my team was out getting pictures like this for people to post on Twitter, I'd be a bit ticked. Tone it doooown Johnny!
That's the night I was out with him lol.
It's pretty simple, if you don't get the cash illegally, then there's nothing wrong with flashing cash in twit pics or going to basketball games with floor seats. The NCAA can investigate and find rather quickly that he's getting his money from mom and dad. If the investigate and find out he is getting money from a booster or violating NCAA rules, then yeah the kid is an idiot.
Yeesh people! Personally, I say this kid should live it up - and it looks like he is. Heisman at 20, all over talk shows and media, a hot-ass girlfriend, now casinos and cash. YOLO!
If this makes you angry in some way I think you have to ask yourself why you care so much.
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You had me going until you used "YOLO".
I can assure I would never use that accronym in a serious maner