Texas Sends Case McCoy, Jordan Hicks Home from the Alamo Bowl

December 28, 2012 at 10:25p    by Jason Priestas    
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captain obvious's picture

is that the same Mr Hicks that spurned tOSU to go to Texas?
 

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SilverBullet33's picture

Yes.  This could get ugly. 

Michael's picture

A heavily-redacted police report says a 21-year-old woman told police she believed she was assaulted around 2 a.m. Friday after inviting two men to her hotel room. The report shows only that the men are students and that one is 21 and the other is 20.

The woman told police that she had had several drinks when she invited the men to her hotel.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

MediBuck's picture

Poor Mack Brown. The latest in a string of mishaps for the Big XII senator.

"There is a force that makes us all brothers, no one goes his way alone." --Woody Hayes

Joshy614's picture

A heavily-redacted police report says a 21-year-old woman told police she believed she was assaulted around 2 a.m. Friday after inviting two men to her hotel room. The report shows only that the men are students and that one is 21 and the other is 20.
The woman told police that she had had several drinks when she invited the men to her hotel.

well, after reading that - I've gotta say there's nothing to see here. It sound like the typical case of a jocksniffer trying to take advantage of a few athletes. These are probably good young men. I'm not saying they're perfect, and I'm also not saying she's a total slut. BUT, she is an adult and old enough to make her own decisions. She decided to get drunk, apparently. And, then, she decided to invite not 1, but 2! guys into her room.  .... She got whatever she deserved, imo. (She probably just got what she wanted.) Now she feels like a slut, and wants to blame somebody(s). Guess what - look in the mirror, girl! What is with people today not being able to take any responsiblity. Maybe she fell for a pick-up line like: "Do you want to dance horizontally?", Or maybe she coerced the 2 men into her room. It doesn't matter. Sounds consensual to me, and now she's trying to blame everyone but herself.

SilverBullet33's picture

You must be a real hit with the ladies. 

Pam's picture

 I would love to know who upvoted that garbage

Michael's picture

She didn't "get what she deserved," no one 'deserves' to be sexually assaulted.
That being said, I'm pretty certain she didn't invite two guys back to her hotel room at 2am on Friday morning for a civilized debate on the current financial state of the United States economy.

Poison nuts's picture

Well said.
Edit: Since I got a DV, I want to be very clear about something. My 'Well Said' was totally about the comment that nobody deserves to be sexually assaulted under any circumstance! I do also think it is not in a woman's best interest to ever invite 2 college football players back to her room at 2:00 am. I say that for her own good. Whatever her intentions, whatever the players intentions, it is just a thing that has the potential to go badly & judged harshly. While I do imagine that they probably were initially not going back to have a political discussion, that does not mean I in any way advocate that a woman ever deserves to have any unwanted advances pushed on to her or that it's expected, nor does she ever deserve to look like "she was asking for it". If someone mistook that, my apologies - not the intention when I wrote that. Not at all.

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Michael's picture

Someone went through and downvoted all (or most of) the comments, I don't think anyone was legitimately confused about which post you were responding to.

Poison nuts's picture

I didn't think so, but this is a pretty dicey topic, as you pointed out & with whatever DV crap is going on around here, I wanted to be clear. Not really even for fear of downvotes so much as if someone took what I said as advocating something I don't...I really don't usually care too much about how someone feels about my opinion, but this is obviously a topic I wouldn't want to be misunderstood on.
Edit: having just looked through all these comments, I kinda wish I wouldn't have come back to this one! I see what you were getting at when you linked from the other thread...

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

johnblairgobucks's picture

I've been to a few "after parties" and at no time did I think my participation was an invite to have sex with a female that happened to be present.  Seems like someone made a bad/horrible decision. 

buckeye_baker's picture

As a woman, may I just give you a few words on this subject: 1 in 3 women are sexually assaulted in their lifetime. 1 in 3. I have friends who have been raped and kept silent for years because they feared exactly what you just said: she deserved she, she was asking for it.
No one asks for it, no one wants it. I find your comment so offensive I'm struggling to articulate my response. You don't know the details of this case, but you feel you can judge this young woman and say she deserves whatever she got. I hope you remove your comment.

"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -Woody Hayes

jestertcf's picture

Please remove this comment. I find it so appaling and hope you really do not believe this to be true.
Please read the law and understand what sexuall assult consists of, because none of those arguments would hold water in court.

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William's picture

I can understand you stating/believing that maybe it was "consensual, and that she regretted what she did", but to suggest that anyone deserves to be sexually assaulted or raped is moronic. I hate when people talk about rape culture, and how it is so ingrained within our society, but when people say crap like this, it provides some proof for people that make said claims. 

Joshy614's picture

*** whoa whoa whoa
...you've all got me way wrong here. The premise that I think she "got whatever she deserved" is not what I meant. That's the wrong premise. I don't mean that IF she was raped or assaulted, then she deserved that. I'm saying she probably wasn't raped at all, but rather just got double-teamed or had a threesome or something, but it was all consensual.
On the other had, IF it was rape - then these two guys belong in a jail cell.
But, again, my point was that I don't think she was raped but rather got drunk and made a poor & loose decision, and is now running away from any responsibility involving that decision.
Bottom line: I do NOT think she got what "she deserved" IF she was raped. But, more importantly: I DON'T THINK SHE WAS RAPED!

Pam's picture

"She got whatever she deserved, imo."
I thnk you made a poor and loose decision posting those comments and now are running away from any responsibility involving that decision.
 

Joshy614's picture

no, in fact I just tried to edit that last comment.
What I was saying was I used the wrong word. Instead of "she got what she deserved", I meant more along the lines of "she just got what she wanted". Even though she, (and the others likely too) were drunk...she made a decision to invite to men back to her room at 2 in the morning. She wanted to be risque, premiscuous, whatever. And, that's exactly what happened. Deserved was the wrong word choice.
She wanted to do whatever she did - and it happened. I'll stand by that. This was her choice. Again, if she was raped or assaulted, then it's a whole different story, and my heart goes out to the girl and I hope those guys are punished properly. But, my gut tells me she just made a poor decision and now doesn't want to take responsibility.

Pam's picture

Let me give you some advice:
If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging

Joshy614's picture

"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging"
 
Let me give you some advice, Pam: don't give me advice.
I'm not in a hole, and not digging. Again, it may hard for you to comprehend, but the premise is flawed and I used the wrong word. I don't care if a bunch of you downvoted that or not, I'm not like a little school child who complains about downvotes (Pam). I really don't care -- I'm just saying I used the wrong word. But, the general point I was making is correct...this girl is irresponsible.

Pam's picture

You are going to need another shovel pretty soon

buckeye_baker's picture

But you have no idea what happened. Jumping to the conclusion that she was just regretful and is lying is hurtful and a reason many women don't report. 

"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -Woody Hayes

Joshy614's picture

"But you have no idea what happened. Jumping to the conclusion that she was just regretful and is lying is hurtful and a reason many women don't report. "
 
...... but somehow you know exactly what happened? You're the one jumping to conclusions, Baker. Were you there? Nope. Neither was I. But, anytime the media seems to take one side - I take heed. Hey Baker, I bet when you heard about that lying slut in the Duke Lacrosse incident you immediately took her side and blamed the lacrosse players? Am I right? I bet I am.
 Well, she was proven to be exactly what she was. And of course we had some corrupt D.A. and the corrupt media already presuming those boys guilty.
How about the jock-chaser that just wanted Kobe's money? I bet you bought her BS, too? Poor Kobe - the guy did nothing wrong in terms of what this vagrant claimed - yet his reputation was dragged through the mud.
All I'm saying is you may be the one jumping to conclusions.
And, I bet when it's all said & done here...this 21-year old woman is proven to be a lying slut. That's all. That's my hunch. I bet I'm right.

buckeye_baker's picture

Seriously? I'm asking you to not accuse women of being "lying sluts" when reporting assault. I said nothing about the men in question, nor jumped to conclusions of my own. Just wait for the actual facts to come out.
 

"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -Woody Hayes

jestertcf's picture

oh your gut tells you??? Oh well then, let's just ingnore police reports and all of that legal mumbo jumbo.

~Because we couldn't go for three~

Buckeye Chuck's picture

What harm is there in just waiting to see how this all plays out, instead of slandering someone who may in fact be the victim of a violent crime based on your "gut?"

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Party Liquor's picture

Well said. But glad to see Texas is being proactive and aren't trying to bury the story like Notre Dame has with the Elizabeth Seeberg situation.

Rapping Bum's picture

http://deadspin.com/5971799/here-is-the-police-report-for-the-sexual-ass...
 
 
That link has the actual police report, you can read it there.  It is heavily redacted, as previously indicated.  The last section is basically what you want to read.

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captain obvious's picture

Why are people speculating on something as horrible as sexual assault.
Lets get back to sports.
Everybody watch the Coombs video again

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BuckeyeLurker0509's picture

"Nothing good ever happens after midnight" - Jim Tressel
Those boys are idiots for breaking the curfew that was set forth for a reason. (I wont comment on their guilt or innocence until everything is sorted)
 

D. Anthony's picture

Mike Tyson went to jail for on of these "come back to my room" invites gone wrong. It doesn't matter what time, how drunk, etc if it wasn't consensual according to the victum you are in deep trouble (especially in Texas).

D. Anthony